Vice Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27785769 Iraq's prime minister has asked parliament to declare a state of emergency after Islamist militants effectively took control of Mosul and much of its province of Nineveh. Nouri Maliki said "vital areas" of the city had been seized; some 150,000 people are believed to have fled. Troops fled Mosul as hundreds of jihadists from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) overran it. The US has said ISIS threatens not just Iraq, but the entire region. John Simpson reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Saw that this morning, was wondering when it would hit the major news networks. I also wonder when the Kurds will say enough is enough, that's pretty close to their home turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Saw that this morning, was wondering when it would hit the major news networks. I also wonder when the Kurds will say enough is enough, that's pretty close to their home turf. As in the Kurds claiming independence from the rest of Iraq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Oh, good. That was definitely worth our $3 trillion visit over there then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KState_Poke22 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/01/iraq-drunk-texts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasty Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 “Single Unoccupied Country seeks Rich Western Nation For Ten-Year Commitment. No Jews.” God I love Duffel Blog. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialD Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 You can go ahead and tune this same thread up for next year....just swap Iraq for Afghanistan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Has all of Mosul been overrun/captured by the Sunni Insurgents? I don't/can't believe that has happened.I could see the insurgents taking the western side of Mosul (on the west side of the Tigris river) without to muchtrouble. The east side of Mosul (on the east side of the Tigris river) was heavily dominated by the Kurds and they would definitely put up a serious fight before losing ground. I would bet that most of the Iraqi Government Military Forcesthat got routed/folded were in western Mosul. Also, I would not be surprised if these forces simply bugged out toeastern Mosul or other Kurdish controlled areas to the east/northeast by crossing the bridges over the Tigris River toseek Kurdish protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaarman Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Has all of Mosul been overrun/captured by the Sunni Insurgents? I don't/can't believe that has happened.I could see the insurgents taking the western side of Mosul (on the west side of the Tigris river) without to muchtrouble. The east side of Mosul (on the east side of the Tigris river) was heavily dominated by the Kurds and they would definitely put up a serious fight before losing ground. I would bet that most of the Iraqi Government Military Forcesthat got routed/folded were in western Mosul. Also, I would not be surprised if these forces simply bugged out toeastern Mosul or other Kurdish controlled areas to the east/northeast by crossing the bridges over the Tigris River toseek Kurdish protection.That logic is not nearly sensational enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpharatz Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I would be more than happy to follow the ENTIRE graduating class of Haaa vad and Yale into the fray. With some Rummies and Cheney's and Bushettes leading the way of course. ......Oh, and some Saudi Royals, Qatari billionaires and a dozen "New York Super Bankers"....(they could bring their staffs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 It's working. Just like we left Japan and Germany after WWII, oh wait, we didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Man Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I would be more than happy to follow the ENTIRE graduating class of Haaa vad and Yale into the fray. With some Rummies and Cheney's and Bushettes leading the way of course. ......Oh, and some Saudi Royals, Qatari billionaires and a dozen "New York Super Bankers"....(they could bring their staffs) say what now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Bigsby Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Sweet American-made Humvees being liberated for the jihadists' war in Syria; saw a report that said Iraqi F-16s had been seized as well, but I didn't think any of them had been delivered yet, plus why would they base them in Mosul? Anyway doubt they'd be much more use for ISIS than for spare parts money on the black market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimalMother Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Anyone else sick of our bullshit Global War of Terror Wars? Anyone else tired of teaching our TTPs to our future enemies? Anyone else here sick of seeing friends killed in defense of absolutely nothing? Anyone else believe that Iraq would be better off today, and with a million more citizens (casualties of our war efforts), if still under Saddam? Good read, Fall of Iraq to ISIS: http://www.scribd.com/doc/229215466/ISIS-Next-Steps Map of ISIS control in Iraq and Syria: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/06/11/world/middleeast/100000002932868.mobile.html?_r=1 Iraqi terror group seizes half billion dollars, becoming richest terror group in the world: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mosul-seized-jihadis-loot-429m-citys-central-bank-make-isis-worlds-richest-terror-force-1452190 Iraq lets Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama know that it could use some USA help killing the same al Queda terrorists we trained in Syria (Kinzinger, you wanted us to train terrorists in Syria, right?): http://online.wsj.com/articles/iraq-signals-openness-to-u-s-airstrikes-against-al-qaeda-u-s-officials-say-1402526823?tesla=y Hopefully more people will start to realize just how ridiculous US foreign and domestic policy has become. I'm just at a loss for words on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 That logic is not nearly sensational enough.I found this BBC article and if true it sounds like only the western portion/half of Mosul fell to the Sunni Insurgentsand the Kurds do control eastern Mosul. It seems like the press may not be giving folks a complete/accurate picture ofunfolding events, no surprise.http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27789770Some excerpts from the article.In Mosul, the militant group experienced far greater success, winning all-important psychological dominance over thesecurity forces in three days of progressively heavy fighting in western Mosul.Peshmerga forces have recently moved forwards along the line of disputed territories claimed by both the federalgovernment and the KRG, including securing the areas of Mosul city east of the Tigris River.Gaining the KRG's active support to take part in the clearance of western Mosul may only be possible if Baghdad iswilling to make concessions to the Kurds on issues such as the international marketing of KRG oil and revenue-sharingbetween Baghdad and Iraqi Kurdistan.Ongoing discord between the Maliki government and its Kurdish and Arab opponents could disrupt the government'scounter-offensive, allowing ISIS to consolidate its hold on western Mosul.In fact, a consolidated ISIS caliphate in western Mosul - with a population of over a million people - would be a fargreater success than anything the movement has achieved in Syria and would send shock waves throughout the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDJ238 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 While I realize this is a serious topic, does anyone else here the news and instantly think of Archer? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 As in the Kurds claiming independence from the rest of Iraq? Well, this too: Kurds Seize Kirkuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 While I realize this is a serious topic, does anyone else here the news and instantly think of Archer? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk First thing I thought of....WOODHOUSE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimalMother Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Someone just got punk'd bad in Iraq. A 10+ year practical joke. haha. The Iraqi people and country were probably the biggest losers, followed by US military personnel and taxpayers. The biggest winners: contractors, politicians who somehow managed to parlay war sentiment into votes and power at the expense of citizens' freedoms, and regional allies who have benefitted from the huge US military presence in their backyard. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/29/richard-clarke-george-bush-war-crimes_n_5410619.html BTW, we're doing the same shit in Africa and have been for a long time. Anyone want to take a bet on whether or not we end up fighting these people we're training?: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/world/africa/us-trains-african-commandos-to-fight-terrorism.html The military industrial complex has become a runaway juggernut. PM me if you're interested in taking a look at any of the geopolitical readings that I subscribe to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The military industrial complex has become a runaway juggernut. PM me if you're interested in taking a look at any of the geopolitical readings that I subscribe to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75cVj4m2x0Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LumberjackAxe Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The military industrial complex has become a runaway juggernut. PM me if you're interested in taking a look at any of the geopolitical readings that I subscribe to. They must be pretty radical if you're afraid of posting them anonymously on a public forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) I have a feeling that the VP only meant it will be one of the Administration's 'greatest achievements' if it doesn't get all fvcked up before the end of their time in office. Edited June 12, 2014 by HeloDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Anyone else sick of our bullshit Global War of Terror Wars? Speak for yourself. While I've also been frustrated with the execution of the wars, I still view killing jihadis before they behead civilians as a valid use of my time and worthy of my best effort. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim richalds Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 If they behead civilians, at least we can release them in exchange for a deserter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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