Van1 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Don't you lose a voluntary sep payment if you draw a guard/reserve pension later but can keep it if you get RIFFed? If that's the case no one who wants to keep playing in the ARC should be interested in VSP and draft up a "RIF me" letter instead. Separation Pay, whether gained through vol or invol methods, will be recouped if one goes on to achieve a military pension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComingLeft Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Separation Pay, whether gained through vol or invol methods, will be recouped if one goes on to achieve a military pension. Edited for being stupid. Beer time anyways. Edited January 20, 2014 by ComingLeft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van1 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Or is on active orders voluntarily for less than 180 days. I've been on orders for under and over 180 days and have not had to pay back my Sep Pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComingLeft Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I've been on orders for under and over 180 days and have not had to pay back my Sep Pay. Ugh, that's what I get for not looking things up. I went and combined regs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akele Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 So, found this doing a search on e-pubs. Goes into detail on how a RIF board operates. Of note is that it specifically addresses (and no kidding refers to them as) "Do not retain me" letters. The board president can move someone down in their retention ranking based off submitting a "do not retain me" letter. http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/afpc/publication/afpci36-109/afpci36-109.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one1 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It is amazing that the careers of 90 officers can be summed up in one table. http://www.flyingsquadron.com/img_gallery/gallery/album_81/gallery_38278_81_102372.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsOff Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 So, found this doing a search on e-pubs. Goes into detail on how a RIF board operates. Of note is that it specifically addresses (and no kidding refers to them as) "Do not retain me" letters. The board president can move someone down in their retention ranking based off submitting a "do not retain me" letter. http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/afpc/publication/afpci36-109/afpci36-109.pdf I like how directly under paragraph 26.2, the first selection record it lists to be added to put you back in the gray zone is "attending a school in PCS status"...as if to say it is more important than the ones listed underneath it, such as MOH recipient, POW, etc... Shows what's really "important" in a career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARAMP1 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I like how directly under paragraph 26.2, the first selection record it lists to be added to put you back in the gray zone is "attending a school in PCS status"...as if to say it is more important than the ones listed underneath it, such as MOH recipient, POW, etc... Shows what's really "important" in a career... LOL...Or 26.2.7. "Any officer possessing a skill (to include capabilities, experiences, and other attributes) approved by SecAF and identified in the board details as critical to the Air Force." Wonder if flying an airplane is a skill critical to the AF. Probably not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) This is about right. Edited January 21, 2014 by discus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitteEinBit Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Retention Board.jpg This is about right. I know that couch from somewhere.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOF_ATC Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Does anyone know if I show my cards and apply for a separation date of 1 Jan 15 under normal conditions (not under one of the FM programs) am I at risk for AFPC looking at that and basically saying "Oh, you want to separate? How about you get out 1 Apr instead." I am a non flyer (ATCer) looking to get out and go FAA. I am not eligible for any VSP money and I want to stay on active duty until the end of the year to minimize my gap in employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_king Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 If you're a POW, do you still have to come up with bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Pipes Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Had a buddy (O-5) get notified he was SERB'd this morning… needs to retire this Spring. Not sure if everyone is notified at once or if they are doing it individually. Anyone else here of folks getting the call today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Normally the results are released at one time and senior raters are directed to notify those affected. IIRC the mandatory retirement date is 1 July 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slc Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dupe Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I like how directly under paragraph 26.2, the first selection record it lists to be added to put you back in the gray zone is "attending a school in PCS status"...as if to say it is more important than the ones listed underneath it, such as MOH recipient, POW, etc... Shows what's really "important" in a career... I see it as "more likely" vice "more important." How many POWs/MOH recipients are there? Of those, how many would fall below the grey zone? I see the guy with a narrative RRF from the last duty station as potentially getting screwed. This gives the Board President a chance to say "The AF thought highly enough of this guy to send him to school. Now, his board score indicates a clean kill for separation... That doesn't jive, Let's look into this." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Bear Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 AF Times has a article that changes the eligibilty criteria again. I'll add the link when able Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty-six & Two Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 AF Times has a article that changes the eligibilty criteria again. I'll add the link when able For which programs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewdog135 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 TERA app submitted. Hope the airline hiring really does go gang-buster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Bear Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fighter, Rescue, and RPA aircrew are ineligible according to AF Times. Special Tactics and a few other officer positions are also not invited to the party. Basically everyone else is eligible.... according to AF Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fighter, Rescue, and RPA aircrew are ineligible according to AF Times. Special Tactics and a few other officer positions are also not invited to the party. Basically everyone else is eligible.... according to AF Times. Link?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 FYI, word I got today was that SERB results were released last Friday. As is customary, there is no public release but individuals should already be notified by their chain of command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty2004 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Link?? http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140108/CAREERS/301080021/Lists-show-who-s-eligible-ineligible-early-retirement Link-within-the-link: http://projects.militarytimes.com/pdfs/Officer-Voluntary-Program-Eligibility-Chart.pdf This is the old, outdated info. As usual, AF Times simply takes available info and puts it in a blender until it turns into some sort of slurry. Still no updates since before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140108/CAREERS/301080021/Lists-show-who-s-eligible-ineligible-early-retirement Link-within-the-link: http://projects.militarytimes.com/pdfs/Officer-Voluntary-Program-Eligibility-Chart.pdf This is the old, outdated info. As usual, AF Times simply takes available info and puts it in a blender until it turns into some sort of slurry. Still no updates since before Christmas. Thanks. I thought by chance it would have new information. I feel dumb for thinking that! Edited January 23, 2014 by Lumbergh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitman Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fighter, Rescue, and RPA aircrew are ineligible according to AF Times. Special Tactics and a few other officer positions are also not invited to the party. Basically everyone else is eligible.... according to AF Times. So nothing new compared to the matrix? Copy chaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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