ARAMP1 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Military Career Decision Survey It's probably the best and most honest survey I've seen during my time in the AF. I did my part in letting the AF know how I feel. I hope everyone else takes the time to do the same. Agreed. As someone who could have applied to VSP last year and turned down the bonus this year to separate, I did my part to let them know it's not about the money or size of the bonus. I did find interesting all the questions regarding the 15 year pilot training commitment. Personally, I think it's BS, but I probably would have signed it in ROTC not knowing what I know now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The next HAF/A3 will be the first non-rated ops chief for the Air Force. Thoughts? Does it matter what the A3's background is? As a space guy, I'm happy. I imagine there are some aircrew in the Pentagon that are not as thrilled. New A3 Gen Raymond Bio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 It is what it is. We don't have to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Neutral Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The next HAF/A3 will be the first non-rated ops chief for the Air Force. Thoughts? Does it matter what the A3's background is? As a space guy, I'm happy. I imagine there are some aircrew in the Pentagon that are not as thrilled. New A3 Gen Raymond Bio 1984 Bachelor of Science degree in administrative management, Clemson University, S.C. BS in Administrative Management? That's a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKinnear Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The next HAF/A3 will be the first non-rated ops chief for the Air Force. Thoughts? Does it matter what the A3's background is? As a space guy, I'm happy. I imagine there are some aircrew in the Pentagon that are not as thrilled. New A3Gen Raymond Bio I think it shows the AF's evolution from Nuke Bomber Command to the 21st Century and the strategic importance of Space (and Cyber soon too) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineapigfury Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The next HAF/A3 will be the first non-rated ops chief for the Air Force. Thoughts? Does it matter what the A3's background is? As a space guy, I'm happy. I imagine there are some aircrew in the Pentagon that are not as thrilled. New A3Gen Raymond Bio Be careful what you wish for. Alot uf us were excited about Norton Schwartz because he represented a break with the fighter mafia ... I'm happy with good leadership and am mostly indifferent to AFSC. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I would agree with guineapigfury...good leadership transcends AFSC. I don't know if I can get past the Bachelors from Clemson though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I think it shows the AF's evolution from Nuke Bomber Command to the 21st Century and the strategic importance of Space (and Cyber soon too) Does this mean we get a cyber guy in charge of 24AF soon? And.. nope. CC's a space guy, Vice is a Pilot, and Chief's career Intel. Some day we'll get to play at the big kids table. Also, the 24AF page has a "Space" section. It's like they're not even trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKinnear Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Does this mean we get a cyber guy in charge of 24AF ? "Soon" in a bureaucratic sense means "at a glacial pace". You might see a 3 or 4-star from cyber before you're dead. How long have ICBMs/Space been a part of the AF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 "Soon" in a bureaucratic sense means "at a glacial pace". You might see a 3 or 4-star from cyber before you're dead. How long have ICBMs/Space been a part of the AF? Well AFSPC has a Space guy in charge. AFGSC has a bomber in charge w/ a missile dude as vice. 8th AF has 2 pilots. 20th AF has a missile dude and a... Spec Ops dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 "Soon" in a bureaucratic sense means "at a glacial pace". You might see a 3 or 4-star from cyber before you're dead. How long have ICBMs/Space been a part of the AF?Then one day, a cyber guy will be in charge, signalling the end of the Space Mafia reign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavedDogsAss Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Does this mean we get a cyber guy in charge of 24AF?. Not to poke the bear, but what 3-4 star at this point in time grew up in the cyber world, or has any more sage experience to offer in it than if they were 'operational' from the beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Not to poke the bear, but what 3-4 star at this point in time grew up in the cyber world, or has any more sage experience to offer in it than if they were 'operational' from the beginning? If you could find a Cyber 3 or 4 star, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWSO Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 If you could find a Cyber 3 or 4 star, please let me know. ANG is worried. They have cyber smart LT Cols and below. There are a few o-6s that get it but almost no Generals, and little opportunity for those o-6s to move up. That is why the ANG is trying to stand up some Cyber Ops Groups. They need some Generals who get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) ANG is worried. They have cyber smart LT Cols and below. There are a few o-6s that get it but almost no Generals, and little opportunity for those o-6s to move up. That is why the ANG is trying to stand up some Cyber Ops Groups. They need some Generals who get it. Exactly this. I think there's one career Cyber 2-star and a few 1-stars. That's just.. baffling to me given the "IT Innovations" and push in the Cyber realm we've had for over 6 years now. Yes.. there are some awful O5/6's in Cyber. Some that don't get it, some that think tech for tech is a good thing, some that think Cyber is the mission in flying wings, and some overly focused on metrics or building that after-the-AF consulting gig. But there's some that get it. Yet we're still stuck here.. waiting for them to percolate through the system, through the boxes, and "grooming." Meanwhile.. there's a legit fight, (I hate classifying it as a war), taking place in Cyber. Note - I'll never be one of these guys. The AF has made it plainly clear I'm too old (35, 16 yrs TAFMS). Pretty much any prior-E for Cyber isn't going to be in the pipe for the leadership track give the <9 years service & Capt pinned-on requirement for our WIC and NSA partner programs. Additionally, we're still stuck in the "must have a STEM degree for Cyber" nonsense. Which is just.. frustrating. All I want to do is build this corps and culture and I'm pretty sure I'm going to be locked out of that. But - timing, luck and lack of justice prevail as always. I'm proud of how far we've come given the massive hurdles we put in our own way. Have a good 4th you Glorious bastards. Edit: Wanted to add the power of Cyber made this possible at our last Wing CC Call - the best question (also on Reddit) Edited July 3, 2015 by 17D_guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The next HAF/A3 will be the first non-rated ops chief for the Air Force. Thoughts? Does it matter what the A3's background is? As a space guy, I'm happy. I imagine there are some aircrew in the Pentagon that are not as thrilled. New A3 Gen Raymond Bio Unless something has changed since I retired, someone awarded a missile badge is rated. Regards, RF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTguy Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Exactly this. I think there's one career Cyber 2-star and a few 1-stars. That's just.. baffling to me given the "IT Innovations" and push in the Cyber realm we've had for over 6 years now. Yes.. there are some awful O5/6's in Cyber. Some that don't get it, some that think tech for tech is a good thing, some that think Cyber is the mission in flying wings, and some overly focused on metrics or building that after-the-AF consulting gig. But there's some that get it. Yet we're still stuck here.. waiting for them to percolate through the system, through the boxes, and "grooming." Meanwhile.. there's a legit fight, (I hate classifying it as a war), taking place in Cyber. Note - I'll never be one of these guys. The AF has made it plainly clear I'm too old (35, 16 yrs TAFMS). Pretty much any prior-E for Cyber isn't going to be in the pipe for the leadership track give the <9 years service & Capt pinned-on requirement for our WIC and NSA partner programs. Additionally, we're still stuck in the "must have a STEM degree for Cyber" nonsense. Which is just.. frustrating. All I want to do is build this corps and culture and I'm pretty sure I'm going to be locked out of that. But - timing, luck and lack of justice prevail as always. I'm proud of how far we've come given the massive hurdles we put in our own way. Have a good 4th you Glorious bastards. Edit: Wanted to add the power of Cyber made this possible at our last Wing CC Call - the best question (also on Reddit) I was at that CC call as well. I know some people thought the whole anonymous survey thing was more gimmick than anything else. But I actually liked it...especially the question about whether or not we have enough time in the work day to actually accomplish our daily workload. Hopefully the willingness to put that out there is an indication that the new boss "get's it". I guess we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Unless something has changed since I retired, someone awarded a missile badge is rated. Regards, RF Yeah, but you have to make "air quotes" with your fingers when you say they're "rated." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I was at that CC call as well. I know some people thought the whole anonymous survey thing was more gimmick than anything else. But I actually liked it...especially the question about whether or not we have enough time in the work day to actually accomplish our daily workload. Hopefully the willingness to put that out there is an indication that the new boss "get's it". I guess we'll see. Don't want to get to much into specifics. But it was totally anonymous and none of them were planted. All unanswered questions are being sent to him and he's engaging as best he can. He didn't shy away from the hard ones (Mon not a down day). So, there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Unless something has changed since I retired, someone awarded a missile badge is rated. Regards, RF Nope, they're not rated anymore. Although, missileers do still wear flight suits. Both space (13S) and missiles (13N) fall under non-rated ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Nope, they're not rated anymore. Although, missileers do still wear flight suits. Both space (13S) and missiles (13N) fall under non-rated ops. Wow, do I feel out of touch. Next thing you know, someone is going to tell me the "Eagles" disbanded or that the Raiders moved back to Oakland. Thanks for bringing me into the 21st Century Digger. Regards, RF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pajaro Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 If you could find a Cyber 3 or 4 star, please let me know. Not there yet, but Zabel and Higby grew up in Cyber and have the right mindset. My money's on Higby as the 1st Cyber 4 star http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/467026/brig-gen-patrick-c-higby.aspx http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/108886/brigadier-general-sarah-e-zabel.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Macy's presented a "4th of July Fireworks Spectacular" today, broadcast nationwide by NBC.The Air Force Band was the primary band for the actual fireworks performance.Kool-Aid was one of the primary sponsors of the event.This all led to this glorious image. Edited July 5, 2015 by deaddebate 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dupe Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Not there yet, but Zabel and Higby grew up in Cyber and have the right mindset. My money's on Higby as the 1st Cyber 4 star http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/467026/brig-gen-patrick-c-higby.aspx http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/108886/brigadier-general-sarah-e-zabel.aspx What is the "right mindset" for cyber? It seems like its somewhere between "outsource everything" and "our cyber platforms are major weapons systems for which people should be qualified on, we should plan for, and should be organized like operational units/systems." Those are two very different extremes, and I don't see the overall strategery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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