What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Guest]

Unless it's on a contract counter signed by AFPC/CC I don't believe it.

They'll only make the offer available when the current AFPC/CC only has 364 or fewer days left on the job. This way, his successor can refuse to honor the agreement.


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[Bode]

I put in my 365 follow on assignment request. It bounced around the assignments team for about 3 months then was returned stating they would only work my assignment once my wife received one. The big gotcha with that I'm an O and my wife's an E. so really she should be getting her assignment based on mine. Also she can go to basically any USAF base so that's not an issue.


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[MooseAg03]

I wonder if upper management realizes that almost any new "policy" they dream up to help retain people will be instantly discounted due to their lack of integrity in past dealings. I think it will probably be close to a decade (only with improved treatment and showing they can actually do what they say) before any of these policies positively affect retention.

They require 24 months TOS upon re-deployment and then 36 prior to PCS, sounds like a back door way to get an extra year.


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[Inertia17]

Unnecessary Deployments

Perhaps they are paying some attention. Who knows if anything will actually come of it though.

Edited May 26, 2017 by Inertia17

[hatedont]

58 minutes ago, Inertia17 said:

Unnecessary Deployments

Perhaps they are paying some attention. Who knows if anything will actually come of it though.

Call me dumb. But deployment requirements would vanquish if the AF figured out WTF we are still doing in Afghanistan. Say we annihilate ISIS in Syria/Iraq. They are still going to want people over there to offset popup ISIS groups, Syria, and Iran. You cant kill a group of roaches and not think they didn't lay eggs to ensure they continue to exist. I'm done with the stupidity we call policy.

I've seen countless members of  the Taliban die. Yet, they have come roaring back because they have always had a ton of support. I remember a high ranking officer telling me in 2010 ANA would fail. People in the government are helping the Taliban but we continue to act like we know everything. You can't win continuously playing patty cake with someone.

A. You either have to go all in with your air and land forces and allow no media into the country. 

B. STFU and leave the country.

Option B is more likely.

 

Edited May 26, 2017 by hatedont

[Azimuth]

10 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Posted so you can "friend him"...

https://www.facebook.com/colonelpatrickjrhatigan

Of course, once you do, drop him a note and say hi.  

When he was a Sq/CC at KSKA, he would print out your emails, call you in his office, and berate you about your poor grammar and not knowing your past participles or whatever. Of course he was an English major at the Zoo and SECAF speech writer.

He also hated being included in Sq wide emails. So you would have to click the plus sign in email distro address and remove him, as the Sq/CC, or he'd call you in his office and berate you about "spamming his inbox."

Good riddance

Edited May 26, 2017 by Azimuth

[Weezer]

2 hours ago, Inertia17 said:

Unnecessary Deployments

Perhaps they are paying some attention. Who knows if anything will actually come of it though.

A lot of what they're promising has more to do with combatant commanders, component commands (e.g., AFCENT), Joint Staff, and SecDef.  These aren't things the A3 can just decree away.

Granted, the CSAF may have administrative influence over the AF component commanders for the COCOMs, it's not as simple as just telling AFCENT to stop asking for rated staff.

[hatedont]

When did CFPS and Falcon View get put on the commies cannot load list? One of my Lts told me this the other day. He was told the software is outdated and cannot be loaded on any computers. I just came from a base using the software.

I'm done, going to put my application in for the Space Corps.  http://spacenews.com/rogers-calls-for-separate-space-corps-within-the-air-force/

Edited May 27, 2017 by hatedont

[Blue]

I'm not a Boeing guy, but I've bounced around the Aerospace and Defense industry for awhile.  This job title and job description sounds like something you'd see someone with a Marketing degree and 10 years of experience doing.  Certainly not a retired O-6.

Maybe there is justice in the world.....

[Champ Kind]

When he was a Sq/CC at KSKA, he would print out your emails, call you in his office, and berate you about your poor grammar and not knowing your past participles or whatever. Of course he was an English major at the Zoo and SECAF speech writer.
He also hated being included in Sq wide emails. So you would have to click the plus sign in email distro address and remove him, as the Sq/CC, or he'd call you in his office and berate you about "spamming his inbox."
Good riddance

I'm in no way defending Rhat's douchiness, but I've seen some pretty dumb Sq/All emails.

[Fuzz]

5 hours ago, hatedont said:

When did CFPS and Falcon View get put on the commies cannot load list? One of my Lts told me this the other day. He was told the software is outdated and cannot be loaded on any computers. I just came from a base using the software. I'm done, going to put my application in for the Space Corps.  http://spacenews.com/rogers-calls-for-separate-space-corps-within-the-air-force/

I keep hearing that CFPS is supposed to be going away sometime this year and being replaced by JUMPs. My base is still using CFP.

[hatedont]

21 minutes ago, Fuzz said:

I keep hearing that CFPS is supposed to be going away sometime this year and being replaced by JUMPs. My base is still using CFP.

We were told no soup for us. The Lt asked about JUMPs too. 

[dream big]

6 hours ago, hatedont said:

When did CFPS and Falcon View get put on the commies cannot load list? One of my Lts told me this the other day. He was told the software is outdated and cannot be loaded on any computers. I just came from a base using the software. I'm done, going to put my application in for the Space Corps.  http://spacenews.com/rogers-calls-for-separate-space-corps-within-the-air-force/

Dude don't even get me started. If I ever have to deal with comm and falcon view on the same day again I may jump out the window 

[17D_guy]

I'm not familiar w/ CFPS, JUMPS...and remember Falcon View as bad software circa 2005.  I have a feeling I should know what these things are...

While we're talking about Col's.  I was setting up a brief for a GO w/ 2 other Jr Officers in a NAF Conference room.  People walking in and out as we fiddled with the VTC since the TSgt was out volunteering.  A  Wing/CC Col walks in and looks around as we're messing with the remotes and the other officer is sitting preparing her notes.

Cols says, "Um, I'm not that person, but lets remember our customs and courtesies and when a Col enters the room you need to stand up."  We all get blinky eyed, and the sitting O apologizes but doesn't get up, and the Col leaves. 

Get done with brief, atta boys all around, and same Col comes over and says, "That was pretty good.  But in the future the chomping gum is very distracting."  Went to gather up things and talk with the exec who mentions it and the GO calls me into his office laughing asking if I have to chew gum as he shoves a piece in his mouth, and throws a piece at me.  I then briefed him on a different subject chewing that gum.  

That Col is probably going to get a star.

[HU&W]

32 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

I'm not familiar w/ CFPS, JUMPS...and remember Falcon View as bad software circa 2005.  I have a feeling I should know what these things are..

Mission planning software.  It helps us blow up the stuff we want to without running out of gas or hitting mountains.

[pawnman]

18 hours ago, Azimuth said:

When he was a Sq/CC at KSKA, he would print out your emails, call you in his office, and berate you about your poor grammar and not knowing your past participles or whatever. Of course he was an English major at the Zoo and SECAF speech writer.

He also hated being included in Sq wide emails. So you would have to click the plus sign in email distro address and remove him, as the Sq/CC, or he'd call you in his office and berate you about "spamming his inbox."

Good riddance

I was waiting for the second half of the story, where you removed him from the SQ/All emails and he berated you for not keeping him in the loop.

[Fuzz]

13 hours ago, dream big said:

Dude don't even get me started. If I ever have to deal with comm and falcon view on the same day again I may jump out the window 

My OPs Group hired a contractor to manage CFPS/FV on our computers instead of Comm. 

[Herk Driver]

My OPs Group hired a contractor to manage CFPS/FV on our computers instead of Comm. 

AMC units I have been in for years have had a contractor to manage the program on stand alone computers, IIRC.


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[Fuzz]

13 hours ago, hatedont said:

We were told no soup for us. The Lt asked about JUMPs too. 

Even with all the queep and other stuff that have been repeatedly mentioned on here, this is my biggest gripe about the AF. The continuous inability to properly resource us to do out jobs and I'm not talking MC rates etc. I'm talking about small stuff that forces us to jump through our ass to figure out how to do our job because nobody knows how the hell to get the one program suite we need to do it. Other things like the continuous daily struggle to get computers or printers to work which suck hours of productivity each day. Flying around the world with no international cell phone unless I want to pay for it on my plan out of pocket and having to rack up international charges from my hotel room which the JTR doesn't reimburse. Better yet, when technology like ADS pucks or GPS moving maps on iPads which provide crews with an significant boost in SA are just now being appproved for use if you want to go pay out of pocket again.

There a lot of big problems with the AF but those are to be expected in any organization, its the small things that add up in a daily basis.

/rant off

[pawnman]

14 hours ago, Fuzz said:

I keep hearing that CFPS is supposed to be going away sometime this year and being replaced by JUMPs. My base is still using CFP.

We've been using JMPS for years.

[Fuzz]

6 minutes ago, Herk Driver said:

AMC units I have been in for years have had a contractor to manage the program on stand alone computers, IIRC.


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Our contractors handle it on networked computers too but we also have another contractor who handle our NIPR & SIPR networks instead of the base Comm. 

[17D_guy]

1 hour ago, Fuzz said:

Our contractors handle it on networked computers too but we also have another contractor who handle our NIPR & SIPR networks instead of the base Comm. 

Sounds magical.  

I can't talk about current manning throughout the cyber force - it's rough.  

I will say in Comm Sq leadership in 2015ish I had 22 billets for helpdesk/computer support tech's supporting a base of 5K.  16 of those billets were manned w/ mostly 3-levels (approx 6-8).  Most of my NCO's were cross-trainees or 20 yr techs because the outside was hiring so hard and RIF/Tera/etc.

Then AEF-Next came and I got to keep 8 Amn, out of 22 billets.  4 went as CST deployed down range and the other 4 went as TCN escorts because that was the fair-share around the base.  Our COMSEC office had to pony up 1/2 their Amn as well to support the TCN.  One of our brightest new SSgt's got out because of that.

The person after me came in and was getting so much more accomplished.  I couldn't figure how we'd failed so hard for those 6 months as my whole flight was motivated and talented enough to really improve a lot on the base.  Then I remember how I had 1/3 of the people I was billeted for, which was on-top of the cuts to manpower we realized with the synergy of the Enterprise Service Desk.

[hatedont]

1 hour ago, Fuzz said:

Our contractors handle it on networked computers too but we also have another contractor who handle our NIPR & SIPR networks instead of the base Comm. 

Just brilliant. How did you and Fuzz get leadership to hire contractors and totally break away from the tyrannical commies?

[Fuzz]

22 hours ago, hatedont said:

Just brilliant. How did you and Fuzz get leadership to hire contractors and totally break away from the tyrannical commies?

I don't know how it works, it was established before I arrived at my base and we still have it several years later.