MKopack Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Was the first responder actually in an old VW Bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory103 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Another series of shots: http://www.wpix.com/news/nationworld/witi-20110728-eaa-f16-incident,0,5934051.photogallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperStud Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Thank the good man upstairs he got out OK. Vipers have a tendency to crimp right around the cockpit area if they nose-over into the ground. Most of us talk about trying out the seat if we're going off-roading at much more than a normal taxi speed. Good on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Was the first responder actually in an old VW Bug? IIRC, that old Bug is the EAA President's OSH ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkFE Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I watched the Youtube video linked above. One of the "related" videos on Youtube was from grassrootsnews. This know-it-all eyewitness stated that the second jet landed with "apparent engine trouble" (or something to that affect) and went off the end of the runway Didn't know the engine stopped the Viper. Weird setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Another series of shots: http://www.wpix.com/news/nationworld/witi-20110728-eaa-f16-incident,0,5934051.photogallery Was he strapped in? Check out pics 13-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceman Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Was the first responder actually in an old VW Bug? Not too surprising, I was up there on Wednesday and there were tons of those things cruising around! Must be the standard EAA employee vehicle or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Was he strapped in? Check out pics 13-16. Looks like the straps are connected, but it is a bit unnerving that they'll let you go that far forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_king Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 wow, he was cooking down that runway compared to the first guy. Didn't know the engine stopped the Viper. Weird Setup. What if he couldn't get it to idle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkFE Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) What if he couldn't get it to idle? It still wouldn't stop it at idle Just kidding...I know what you are saying. There is probably something to that argument. It doesn't appear that the engine is at idle just looking at the turkey feathers. Edited July 29, 2011 by HerkFE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATIS Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/86Sabre/?action=view¤t=F-16Oshkosh7-2011.mp4 Taxi director at 0:12. ATIS Edited July 29, 2011 by ATIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almansur Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/86Sabre/?action=view¤t=F-16Oshkosh7-2011.mp4 Taxi director at 0:12. ATIS Correct me if I am wrong... but isn't he coming in far too hot judging from the other Viper in front? Main wheels are smoking and it looks like the right brake got really hot in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBOBs_11 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Just got back from Oshkosh. Here is my picture contribution... From what I saw they did 2 go arounds and both F16s looked funky doing them STS. They just looked off. Guess we will find out what happened soon. Glad the pilot was able to get out safely and no one else was hurt! If you are unfamiliar with Oshkosh, it is pretty much controlled chaos about all the time. To my knowledge a couple of people lost their lives a couple of days ago there at the seaplane base from a crash trying to land out there or something. RIP to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 If anyone has access to the CSAF Daily Ops update on SIPRNET (linked on the SIPRNET BaseOps Intelink page), there is a little info on this incident...but it's marked 'FOUO,' so I can't post it here. Cheers! M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) IIRC, that old Bug is the EAA President's OSH ride. Not true. While some of the high rollers in EAA (like the Poberezny's) drive VW's during AirVenture, the EAA President does not. There are additional VW's around the airfield, and the one in the video is the Flight Line Operations vehicle. Edited July 29, 2011 by Huggyu2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 So was he strapped in or not? Doesn't look like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 So was he strapped in or not? Doesn't look like it. That's within the limits of where the straps will let you go if the inertial reels don't lock. You could easily lean forward to the 'dash' or turn around 180+ while fully strapped in ... there's a lot of travel avaialable. Speculation, but looks like you can see a shoulder strap in Pic 12 or 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 That's within the limits of where the straps will let you go if the inertial reels don't lock. You could easily lean forward to the 'dash' or turn around 180+ while fully strapped in ... there's a lot of travel avaialable. Speculation, but looks like you can see a shoulder strap in Pic 12 or 13. Roger. Hard to imagine there would be enough decel Gs for a faceplant but not enough to lock the harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Roger. Hard to imagine there would be enough decel Gs for a faceplant but not enough to lock the harness. You would think .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 You would think .... Maybe they should think about an airbag mod... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Not true. While some of the high rollers in EAA (like the Poberezny's) drive VW's during AirVenture, the EAA President does not. There are additional VW's around the airfield, and the one in the video is the Flight Line Operations vehicle. I see. Also didn't realize that the EAA prez was no longer a Poberezny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 There's so many things that could have been going wrong (brakes, engine not going to idle, hydraulics, steering issues)...glad to hear the pilot's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Correct me if I am wrong... but isn't he coming in far too hot judging from the other Viper in front? Main wheels are smoking and it looks like the right brake got really hot in there. Did he go off the left edge of the runway to avoid hitting his lead?. What are the options an F-16 pilot has when leaving the runway? Is it normal to eject or stick with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitman Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Did he go off the left edge of the runway to avoid hitting his lead?. What are the options an F-16 pilot has when leaving the runway? Is it normal to eject or stick with it? It looked like lead exited at A-1 (45 deg right angle at end of R-36) and the MA departed the runway straight ahead. http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/1107/00730AD.PDFI didn't see the accident (too busy looking at all the planes), but the Vipers were putting on a good show prior to the landing incident. Lead was more aggressive with AB and an aggressive 90 degree closed pull each time while wing didn't go AB and probably only rolled about 70 degrees. Glad the pilot made it out ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKopack Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Did he go off the left edge of the runway to avoid hitting his lead?. What are the options an F-16 pilot has when leaving the runway? Is it normal to eject or stick with it? Have friends that tell me that their plan is to eject if they leave the runway at much more than normal taxi speed. 16's have a tendency to do this while going cross country: 79-0377 at Nellis in 1984 (?). The hole in the canopy was where they extracted the pilot, and the aircraft was rebuilt to fly, and crash (MacDill '88), and be rebuilt to fly again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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