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32 minutes ago, JabroniWizard said:

Has anyone run into trouble trying to get their unit to pay for FC1 travel? The finance dept. at my unit says I have to complete OTS before I get travel benefits.

This was definitely not my experience. Once I was gained by my unit, I got the process starting to get a CAC, get a government travel credit card (GTCC), and get DTS access. I’m Guard, btw so this may be different for you if you’re in another component. My FC1 travel was completely booked through DTS and paid through my GTCC. 

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47 minutes ago, FOX3 said:

This was definitely not my experience. Once I was gained by my unit, I got the process starting to get a CAC, get a government travel credit card (GTCC), and get DTS access. I’m Guard, btw so this may be different for you if you’re in another component. My FC1 travel was completely booked through DTS and paid through my GTCC. 

Heard. I'm guard as well so this definitely applies. Just got the GTCC application done as of now. Admin is optimistic this issue will be cleared up. I'm the first off the street new hire they've had in a while so they're understandably scrambling. Bottom line though I'll go out of pocket if it means saving just a month of time by not re-scheduling the FC1.

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28 minutes ago, JabroniWizard said:

Heard. I'm guard as well so this definitely applies. Just got the GTCC application done as of now. Admin is optimistic this issue will be cleared up. I'm the first off the street new hire they've had in a while so they're understandably scrambling. Bottom line though I'll go out of pocket if it means saving just a month of time by not re-scheduling the FC1.

I feel you there -- I would've done that 100% too!  Good luck with getting everything set up, and let us know how it goes. 

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59 minutes ago, JabroniWizard said:

Heard. I'm guard as well so this definitely applies. Just got the GTCC application done as of now. Admin is optimistic this issue will be cleared up. I'm the first off the street new hire they've had in a while so they're understandably scrambling. Bottom line though I'll go out of pocket if it means saving just a month of time by not re-scheduling the FC1.

If you're enlisted into the unit that hired you, then they should allow you to request an authorization in DTS for the TDY and book your travel through DTS (you'll need a line of accounting from your finance folks to fund that trip). Been said but my experience and experience I know of with other guard guys is that the unit will pay for it. So I'm not sure what's different about you going TDY to WP vs someone else going TDY to some other place.

On the reserve side, the dudes I met at FC1 said they have to pay for it out of pocket and their recruiter will get them reimbursed.

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On 3/30/2021 at 1:42 PM, JabroniWizard said:

Has anyone run into trouble trying to get their unit to pay for FC1 travel? The finance dept. at my unit says I have to complete OTS before I get travel benefits.

Reserves here, I wasn't enlisted when I got my FC1. My squadron had me submit my receipts (flight, car, gas, hotel) and fill out a reimbursement form/direct deposit. Got it all back within a couple months. 

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Guard - Non-Prior

Hired: October '20

MEPS/Enlistment: October '20 (did MEPS prior to interview)

FC1: Feb '21

FC1 Stamped Approved (with eye-related waiver): Late March '21

NGB Approval: ???

TFOT: ???

UPT: ???

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On 3/22/2021 at 7:00 PM, Terminator5 said:

Must be nice lol. Mine took from the time my recruiter said my MEPS packet was at the surgeon general to the time he said it was approved was just over 2 months. YMMV

It was refreshingly quick, but it doesn't matter since the entire process is so slow. For every quick 2 weeks, there's a 3~6 month wait for something else. 👎😑

Positive thinking though! 

On 3/30/2021 at 1:11 PM, JabroniWizard said:

 


Roger, appreciate it.

 

I tried to get you and I answers for this, but I'm empty handed. I've called everyone I can reasonably think of. My Officer Accessions Recruiter, the unit's recruiter, the finance unit, and the squadron's point-of-contact for me. From what I gathered, it's all up to the finance unit for travel payment/reimbursement. The Airman in charge of the finance unit seemed squared away, but the civilian employees who run it full-time, not so much. Unfortunately the only workers who know how to potentially process travel payment/reimbursement for me are the civilian employees. I called last week, spoke with a civilian employee, and was told it was being worked on. Called today and was told I'd be called right back after the civilian employee went into a neighboring office to get more information. Was never called back, and after an hour I called again. I was told by someone else that the civilian employee that was previously speaking with me is no where to be found, gone, vanished. Still no call from said employee. Went to my squadron's point-of-contact after that who was as helpful as he could be. I'm going to pay for all this out of my own pocket, keep receipts/track mileage, and hope I get reimbursed at some point. As a heads up for you, I was told if for some reason the lodging at Wright-Patterson AFB is full when you arrive, get an unavailability letter from the staff at lodging so you can get reimbursed by your unit for paying out of pocket for a hotel off-base.

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Has anyone run into trouble trying to get their unit to pay for FC1 travel? The finance dept. at my unit says I have to complete OTS before I get travel benefits.
I hadn't even enlisted in my unit hey and they paid for my travel. They booked my flight and hotel. Only thing I had to be reimbursed for was per diem.

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On 3/30/2021 at 12:42 PM, JabroniWizard said:

Has anyone run into trouble trying to get their unit to pay for FC1 travel? The finance dept. at my unit says I have to complete OTS before I get travel benefits.

Something good happened. Nearly last minute for office workers, I got orders for the flight physical and the order document addresses travel reimbursement up to a certain amount of money, what is authorized for reimbursement, and how to get reimbursed (submit two forms) along with all receipts.

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4 hours ago, yervis said:

Something good happened. Nearly last minute for office workers, I got orders for the flight physical and the order document addresses travel reimbursement up to a certain amount of money, what is authorized for reimbursement, and how to get reimbursed (submit two forms) along with all receipts.

That sounds like a good sign for me. Admin is currently fighting for reimbursement and I just recently got my Citi GTC Travel Card. Appears as though I should be fine.

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Hello, my name is Evan Stahl. I am making an inquiry to see if anyone knows the director of operations or base commander at Seymour Johnson Air Force Base . I applied to the USMC PLC program (commissioning route for college students) and was not granted a guaranteed aviation contract. I am a rising junior in collage. I can reapply next quarter (June 1st), but the contract is still not guaranteed until I am accepted. I heard from my brother that reserve squadrons can offer pilot slots and decided to reach out. Thank you. 

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On 3/22/2021 at 7:00 PM, Terminator5 said:

Must be nice lol. Mine took from the time my recruiter said my MEPS packet was at the surgeon general to the time he said it was approved was just over 2 months. YMMV

SG waiver approved. Took 2 months exactly like @Terminator5 

Timeline Update: 

  • selected: Aug 2020 @ Guard fighter unit
  • MEPS: Feb 2021
  • MEPS 2.0 (liked it so much I went twice): Mar 2021
  • SG Waiver Approval: May 2021
  • Cond. Enlistment: Soon, date still TBD
  • FC1: was told 1-2 months from today but date still TBD 
  • TFOT: ?
  • UPT: ?
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On 5/11/2021 at 12:34 PM, glockenspiel said:

SG waiver approved. Took 2 months exactly like @Terminator5 

Timeline Update: 

  • selected: Aug 2020 @ Guard fighter unit
  • MEPS: Feb 2021
  • MEPS 2.0 (liked it so much I went twice): Mar 2021
  • SG Waiver Approval: May 2021
  • Cond. Enlistment: Soon, date still TBD
  • FC1: was told 1-2 months from today but date still TBD 
  • TFOT: ?
  • UPT: ?

The real holdup right now is NGB approval

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If you live close to your base, its in your best interest to enlist and start going to drill. It counts towards your time in service so any extra you can get will only benefit you. And it's usually a chill weekend getting paid. 

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12 hours ago, glockenspiel said:

How long have you been waiting? And How long are you expecting to wait? 

I have been waiting just about 4 months was told to expect 6-8

Timeline: 

  • selected: Nov 2020 @ Guard fighter unit
  • MEPS: Completed prior to hire Sep 2020
  • SG Approval: Jan 2021
  • Enlistment: After NGB approval
  • NGB Approval: Processing
  • FC1: ?
  • TFOT: ?
  • UPT: ?
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On 3/15/2021 at 3:36 PM, ryleypav said:

Off the street hire at a Guard Tanker Unit.

March 2021 Update: inching closer. again....again

 

AFOQT/TBAS: July 2016

Board: November 2019

Hired:  November 2019

MEPS: Passed April 2020 amid the 'rona outbreak. 

Enlistment: June 2020.

FC1: September 29, 2020

FC1 Stamped Approved: November 2020

NGB approval: March 2021

OTS: ??? 

UPT: ???

FTU: ???

Off the street hire at a Guard Tanker Unit.

May 2021 Update: inching closer. again....again......almost there.

 

AFOQT/TBAS: July 2016

Board: November 2019

Hired:  November 2019

MEPS: Passed April 2020 amid the 'rona outbreak. 

Enlistment: June 2020.

FC1: September 29, 2020

FC1 Stamped Approved: November 2020

NGB approval: March 2021

OTS: August 2021

UPT: ???

FTU: ???

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How long does it take to get your final approval on your flight physical?

I did my FC1A back in early March and I am still waiting on approval before submitting everything to the NGB. I didn't need any waivers or anything so I figured it would be in and out pretty quickly.

is it pretty common to wait this long?

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How long does it take to get your final approval on your flight physical?
I did my FC1A back in early March and I am still waiting on approval before submitting everything to the NGB. I didn't need any waivers or anything so I figured it would be in and out pretty quickly.
is it pretty common to wait this long?


It took only 2 weeks to get back to my unit. I figured afterwards out that medical at your home unit needs to sign off on your FC1 as well (YMMV). Took my med team to sign it off after about 3 more weeks due to technical issues. All in all just over a month for mine and that seemed long compared to others.

You should ask your recruiter if your unit received your paperwork from the FC1.
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15 minutes ago, JabroniWizard said:

 


It took only 2 weeks to get back to my unit. I figured afterwards out that medical at your home unit needs to sign off on your FC1 as well (YMMV). Took my med team to sign it off after about 3 more weeks due to technical issues. All in all just over a month for mine and that seemed long compared to others.

You should ask your recruiter if your unit received your paperwork from the FC1.

 

I think my case is a little different. I did my FC1A, Not FC1. I actually did this physical at my home base so they have the paperwork. I am not 100% sure of the process but I think the physical gets sent somewhere externally and those flight docs make a final determination and send it back to my home base.

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