JarheadBoom Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Please, oh please, let Air Force times get a picture of a guy in service dress with a reflective belt on... They already screwed the pooch on the disco belt issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who? Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Wait, Reflective Belts in Blues? Really? Wearing them as part of your flightsuit, or ABU's is one thing, but to show outright disrespect to the Dress Uniform of our service by wearing a reflective belt is crazy. I wonder if the Base Honor Guard wears them as well? Please, oh please, let Air Force times get a picture of a guy in service dress with a reflective belt on... If you'd like a picture, I can take one just about any Thursday around here, since the base I'm at doubles as a training base for those just out of BMT. I'm not sure of the exact rules for wearing it since I don't come under the same supervision as those guys, but I've seen reflective belts over service dress as well as over Navy dress blues. Interesting (but not surprising) that you don't see them on the Army or USMC folks of the same grade and position, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt4fans Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Wait, Reflective Belts in Blues? Really? Wearing them as part of your flightsuit, or ABU's is one thing, but to show outright disrespect to the Dress Uniform of our service by wearing a reflective belt is crazy. I wonder if the Base Honor Guard wears them as well? Please, oh please, let Air Force times get a picture of a guy in service dress with a reflective belt on... Once again.....failure of the "Leaders" to figure out how to "Lead" and not just throw a Reflective belt at the problem. Once we get these guys to figure out how to "Lead" we'll all be in a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 The latest and greatest from AFBlues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scooby Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Wait, Reflective Belts in Blues? Really? Wearing them as part of your flightsuit, or ABU's is one thing, but to show outright disrespect to the Dress Uniform of our service by wearing a reflective belt is crazy. I wonder if the Base Honor Guard wears them as well? Please, oh please, let Air Force times get a picture of a guy in service dress with a reflective belt on... The SQ Super at my last base voluntarily wore his reflective belt indoors while in service dress. He said he wanted to set a good example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Someone please show me where -2903 allows the wear of a reflective belt. Then show me where -2903 allows the wear of one indoors and in service dress or blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKinnear Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 The best would be for an SrA to get in the Sup's face and demand he remove the RB, Deid chowhall style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 The SQ Super at my last base voluntarily wore his reflective belt indoors while in service dress. He said he wanted to set a good example every officer in the room who allowed him to do it failed as a leader. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 every officer in the room who allowed him to do it failed as a leader. Why? Big boy rules apply, if he's an idiot and wants to make a fool of himself (and he's not doing anything illegal), then let him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 (edited) Someone please show me where -2903 allows the wear of a reflective belt. Then show me where -2903 allows the wear of one indoors and in service dress or blues. You didn't really think it would be that easy to dodge, did you? Table 1.1, "Commanders' Responsibilities" Installation Commanders [Rule 3]: Require protective or reflective items when safety considerations make it appropriate. Hey, I don't think it's "appropriate" (and certainly not indoors); but welcome to the asylum.... Edited December 30, 2010 by Jughead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 You didn't really think it would be that easy to dodge, did you? Hey, I don't think it's "appropriate" (and certainly not indoors); but welcome to the asylum.... Yep, you made my point. Safety considerations indoors and in a well lit building make his wearing of the reflective belt a violation of both the installation commander's policy and -2903. Welcome to Article 92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yep, you made my point. Safety considerations indoors and in a well lit building make his wearing of the reflective belt a violation of both the installation commander's policy and -2903. Welcome to Article 92. Betcha a that that never happens. "Safety considerations" are, in this case, whatever the Wg/CC says they are--if the policy includes indoors, there you have it. If the policy does not include indoors, it would be quietly amended to do so before anyone is formally chastised for excessive wear of the bullet-proof belt.... Yes, I think it's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yep, you made my point. Safety considerations indoors and in a well lit building make his wearing of the reflective belt a violation of both the installation commander's policy and -2903. Welcome to Article 92. We've proven that safety considerations include well-lit areas inaccessible to vehicles...I think indoors is just an extension of that policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Why? Big boy rules apply, if he's an idiot and wants to make a fool of himself (and he's not doing anything illegal), then let him... If he wants to make an idiot of himself, that's fine.... but he needs to do it in a way that doesn't make the uniform I take pride in wearing look like a clown costume. I'm not saying berate the guy in front of anyone, but a quick "hey WTF" in a discrete manner would definitely have been in order there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 but welcome to the asylum.... Or the clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt4fans Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Or the clown show. I thought that show was exclusive ot the Deid.....I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I thought that show was exclusive ot the Deid.....I guess not. They go out there, get indoctrinated, and bring it back here. It's just taken this long for the shoe clerks to all rotate through during their AEF cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 They go out there, get indoctrinated, and bring it back here. It's just taken this long for the shoe clerks to all rotate through during their AEF cycles. Just like the Islamic extremists that go out there, get indoctrinated and bring it back to their home country. We've adopted the model of our enemy. Is that part of COIN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram02 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 So, on the way home today, I saw an airman in the middle of the Atlanta airport in ABUs rocking the reflective belt. Clearly, this individual was not taking any chances and did not want to risk being struck by an errant golf cart. I wanted to say something, but it was one of those opposite-direction escalator encounters, so all I could do was mentally facepalm and chalk up reason #269 why the Air Force gets laughed at by other services. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodles Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 "Dress, appearance standards in the AOR" http://www.386aew.afcent.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123237055 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 "Dress, appearance standards in the AOR" http://www.386aew.afcent.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123237055 nice shoeclerk manifesto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 "Dress, appearance standards in the AOR" http://www.386aew.afcent.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123237055 If your approach to Force Protection is to make sure my T-shirt stays tucked in on the track, then you are not the person I want protecting the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 So, on the way home today, I saw an airman in the middle of the Atlanta airport in ABUs rocking the reflective belt. Clearly, this individual was not taking any chances... I've been watching for this very thing. Inevitable. Sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 "Dress, appearance standards in the AOR" http://www.386aew.afcent.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123237055 Yeah, 'cause guys like this don't know shit about war! Just look at all those uniform violations!!! And not a single reflective belt in the bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scooby Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 "Dress, appearance standards in the AOR" http://www.386aew.afcent.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123237055 EABOD, Chief Parsons. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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