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Judge kicks out MSNBC from his courtroom for “allegedly” trying to photograph jurors.

My bet at this point is for a hung jury, possible acquittal on one or all the charges.  If it’s a hung jury, I don’t see the state trying him again given the evidence and considering how bad the prosecution performed in trying the case.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/judge-bars-msnbc-from-court-after-person-allegedly-tried-to-photograph-rittenhouse-jurors%3f_amp=true

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1 hour ago, HeloDude said:

  I don’t see the state trying him again given the evidence and considering how bad the prosecution performed in trying the case.

 

Don't underestimate them.

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I’m curious what everyone thinks when Kyle is convicted? Regardless of the total lack of a case the prosecution made. Where does it go from there?

I’m amazed it wasn’t a directed verdict by the judge, based on the coverage I heard. If he’s found guilty, I think we really need to reevaluate how jurors are chosen.


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50 minutes ago, Guardian said:

I’m curious what everyone thinks when Kyle is convicted? Regardless of the total lack of a case the prosecution made. Where does it go from there?

Regardless how the jury finds him, it just further drives these important points:

1) Don’t live in an area ran by progressives

2) Limit travel to areas ran by progressives 

3) Definitely don’t go to an area to help people who won’t help themselves, an area which welcomes “mostly peaceful protests”, and who don’t want the police attempting to establish some sense order/put down lawlessness, etc.  The decent people in these areas need to see #1 above.

For those who disagree, keep in mind this is what our current president tweeted out shortly after the event (not to mention the crap spewed by other leftist politicians):

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1 hour ago, Guardian said:

I’m curious what everyone thinks when Kyle is convicted? Regardless of the total lack of a case the prosecution made. Where does it go from there?

The same place it went after Chauvin. These cases are not the cause, they are the symptom. The disease is manifesting everywhere, with Virginia being the most clear infection. I wasn't sure if the disease had gotten bad enough to trigger a strong enough response, but it seems like the progressives are doubling down, so maybe there's hope?

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1 hour ago, Smokin said:

Unfortunately, if he is found not guilty, the far left is going to argue the same thing.  MSNBC and Biden said he was racist murder, so he must be found guilty or the city will burn.

The city doesn't have to burn. If a few hundred Kyles showed up to protect it we would see which side the .gov is on. Sad thing is the riot that started this was perpetuated by leftist media lies. And leftist media lies are going to cause more riots after the verdict. 

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3 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

The same place it went after Chauvin. These cases are not the cause, they are the symptom. The disease is manifesting everywhere, with Virginia being the most clear infection. I wasn't sure if the disease had gotten bad enough to trigger a strong enough response, but it seems like the progressives are doubling down, so maybe there's hope?

Definitely hopeful....looks like the woketarded shitlibs are losings their appeal........silver lining for sure...wonder if some ' courageous woketards' on this forum will tell us all how wokery and diversity and 'peaceful but firey protests' will 'save democracy'.....

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7 hours ago, Lowspeedhidrag said:

Definitely hopeful....looks like the woketarded shitlibs are losings their appeal........silver lining for sure...wonder if some ' courageous woketards' on this forum will tell us all how wokery and diversity and 'peaceful but firey protests' will 'save democracy'.....

Don't call them that, please. I know what you are trying to convey, but this war is going to be won through a split in the Democratic party, where the more temperate liberals cast out the progressive/socialist/Marxist radicals. 

 

That split is going to take *a lot* of dialog between conservatives and liberals. "Woketarded shitlibs" does nothing but shut off the listening part of the brain for anyone who remotely identifies as liberal. 

 

It's a free country, so do what you want, but realize you are exacerbating the problem and empowering actual "Woketarded shitlibs" by using childish language that they will use to keep the rational liberals on their team.

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So much what lord rather said. I’m fairly in tune to local politics, and it is very promising to see how many liberals (not far left progressives, there’s a difference) are starting to finally wake up to this bullshit going too far. I’ve talked to several who self-described as progressive, but now they’re saying they can’t do it anymore. Those liberals won’t necessarily get on board with all the conservative polices you like, but they will have a conversation and are more open minded than given credit…just as the same applies to conservatives who are closer to the middle/lean in the libertarian direction. Locally, I’ve determined the GOP are all old people who staunchly cling to their viewpoints/fuck everyone else just as much as the progressive nut jobs…there’s no fundamentally big pic difference in the two groups as far as I’m concerned. 

Invite the other side of the middle fence to respectful conversation, bet you find out they’re actually pretty reasonable and good people. And hopefully they will find the same about you if they give honest conversation a chance. 

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3 minutes ago, tac airlifter said:

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I don’t understand how anyone with an ounce of fairness could oppose this verdict.  Justifiable self-defense has rarely been this easy or clean to determine.

I've tried answering that question for a long time. Since the Kavanaugh hearings. The voters' mindset I get, they just believed the lie they were told. But the people in that picture know they are lying. Why?

 

I think it's because this has become the religion of the progressives. The dogma of power hierarchies and systemic oppression (that old friend, Marx), the original sin of slavery, and the requirement that you proclaim your faith despite what your lying eyes see. There are hymns (SJW vocabulary like antiracism, unconscious bias, systemic racism, white rage, whiteness, privilege), prophets and priests (Ta- Nehisi Coates, Ibram Kendi, Robin DiAngelo), tithing (political campaign donations), confession... The list goes on. And just how the Catholic Church reacted horribly to the enlightenment, and nearly every scientific discovery that even remotely challenged the church's narrative, the progressives *hate* anything that threatens the "perfect word" of their God: the evil and racist nature of the American system, in which there is no justice for the oppressed.

 

That's why they hated Rittenhouse so much, and it's especially why they hated the Darren Wilson case so much, and why they completely ignored the Eric DeValkenaere case. The first case attacks the purity of the cause. If Kyle was justified, then that night in Kenosha really was a riot, not "mostly peaceful protesting" for black rights. The second case reminds us that cops are more likely to be killed by black people than black people are likely to be killed by cops. There are very few actual cases of cops killing unarmed black people on which to build this vision of wide-spread sport-hunting by the police of minorities; Michael Brown was a martyr turned villain. And the last case proves that there is infact justice for minorities in America.

 

Once you accept that the people driving the progressive movement know the narrative they are promoting is false, it becomes a lot easier to predict the behavior. The things you focus on and ignore when protecting a lie are different than when protecting the truth. Gaslighting, straw men, ad hominem attacks, appeals to authority, false equivalency... All tactics to distract from a weak position.

 

They have committed to the fundamental notion that America is broken and needs to be radically changed. Build back better, right? They want the "new America" but lack the justification, considering the wild success of the American experiment for *all* citizens. So they are just making it up.

 

Now that they are committed, and their power is tied to that cause, what choice do they have?

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