Guest fin Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Not from the Deid, but from another deployed location. Even after all the other dumb shit I've seen over the years, I still had a hard time believing this one is real, but I've been assured that it is. The email is bad enough, but what's worse, this dipshit's commander is clearly OK with it. Enjoy. Line after line of apocalyptic BS Focused leadership right there : grabbing random passers-by and embarrassing them in public, with the threat of dire consequences if they stumble over a word. Even if that turns out to be a joke, it's believable. The private sector's no bed of roses, but I can now go through a long day knowing that nobody I work with will be distracted by spastic idiocy like that. Heading back out to the ME at the end of this month. Not sure how I'll cope without a disco belt or lobster-colored E-nazis pointing out that my sleeves are rolled up, but I'll struggle on. For ref, we have our own, shorter version of the Creed : - Be on time - Do your job - Act like an adult, unless the beer light's on - Go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Bombs on time on target and kill MiGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcj Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Not from the Deid, but from another deployed location. Even after all the other dumb shit I've seen over the years, I still had a hard time believing this one is real, but I've been assured that it is. The email is bad enough, but what's worse, this dipshit's commander is clearly OK with it. Enjoy. (e-mail referenced above. blah, blah, blah...) Wow. Just ######ing wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) UFB Hard to see the failure coming from YOU and your policy of "we're gonna be a place where we randomly try to humiliate you over something not focused on the mission, and hammer you if you get it wrong" Chief Xxxxxxx, when you're too busy focusing on looking for the failure in everyone else. Wanna see failure while your there, Chief Xxxxxx? Pretty simple. Head on over to the bathroom sink and look directly above it. Tell me what you see. Have you found the failure yet? Edited September 3, 2011 by Bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Already discussed the E-9's epic fail email However, a fail that hard maybe deserves to be beaten to death in two different threads...UFB all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hueypilot812 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Chief's descent into REMF insanity Dear God, I cannot transfer to AFRC fast enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 What is a 5MT? Does asking that question make me a failure as an Airman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoleIt Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 What is a 5MT? Does asking that question make me a failure as an Airman? Not knowing the Airman's creed means you're a failure as an Airman. Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HU&W Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 What is a 5MT? Does asking that question make me a failure as an Airman? This is a 5MT. The plan is for the E9 to get one of these so he can drive everywhere on base and ask people about the creed. When he's not asking, he can play a recording of it through strategically placed speakers on the outside of the 5MT. Heck, it's even small enough he could drive it into some buildings. That way he gets the double benefit of never having to walk and justifying reflective belts for everybody indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNBAR Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 It's not a complete disaster. If you read the "who what where why and hows", the "how" is described as "based on your personal preference." If that's not an invitation for sarcasm, mockery and general ridicule, I don't know what is. My personal preference is to recite the creed with my best Joe Pesci "Casino" impersonation, with an f-bomb as every 4th word. What's your personal preference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 My personal preference is to recite the creed with my best Joe Pesci "Casino" impersonation, with an f-bomb as every 4th word. What's your personal preference? To not recite it at all. I haven't learned it yet, and I don't ever plan on learning it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 This email officially shows that most people at the Deid don't even know there is a war still going on that they are supposed to be there supporting. They just think they get to go to the desert, get "combat" pay and tax free pay, check a container for a deployment and possibly get a short tour and that is about it. The rest of their time is spent drinking their 3 beers a day, suntanning at the pool, working on their masters, bachelors, PME and PLAYING soldier. It is time to start bringing people home from the Deid and giving them real jobs throughout the AF! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUSEPLUG Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I think that e-mail is from Ali... But you are 100% correct. There are too many people deployed if anyone has time to even THINK about memorizing anything other than Bold Face, Tech Orders, or Job Guides while over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Seat Driver Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 So much for killing people and breaking their shit. That would involve being a real warrior. Too dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hueypilot812 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 That would involve being a real warrior. Too dangerous. No, to some people the US military has become a full-time extension of ROTC field training or basic training. To them, that's all it's about...haircuts, tucked shirts and reciting creeds. To the rest of us, the haircut/tucked shirts/creed thing was merely an exercise designed to instill certain thought patterns in people's minds and weed out those that can't hack it or adapt. It's a means to an end, not the end in itself. Apparently a lot of people haven't figured that out. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_king Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 To the rest of us, the haircut/tucked shirts/creed thing was merely an exercise designed to instill certain thought patterns in people's minds and weed out those that can't hack it or adapt. It's a means to an end, not the end in itself. Apparently a lot of people haven't figured that out. Absolutely! The queep instilled in basic AETC courses like that are there to induce stress. It's not the mission of the AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) No, to some people the US military has become a full-time extension of ROTC field training or basic training. To them, that's all it's about...haircuts, tucked shirts and reciting creeds. To the rest of us, the haircut/tucked shirts/creed thing was merely an exercise designed to instill certain thought patterns in people's minds and weed out those that can't hack it or adapt. It's a means to an end, not the end in itself. Apparently a lot of people haven't figured that out. This. Not all regulations are equal because some are meant to instill discipline, standardization, and a compliance-mindset, and others are actually relevant to a real-world mission. A dose of the first kind is part of the military way of life and those regulations help us maintain higher standards than the civilian world, but are not an end unto themselves; following them to a T doesn't actually accomplish anything real. Detailed knowledge of mission-related pubs, checklists, etc. leads to excellence in carrying out a real-world mission, that is an end worth pursuing. I've said it a million times; loss of mission focus. This E-9 is exhibit #69. Edited September 4, 2011 by nsplayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catbox Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 ASAB Enlisted Corps, Welcome to 5MT accountability one and all. Today marks the day that you are required to know the Airman's Creed and Air Force Song as outlined in my first 5MT to the Enlisted Corps. At no time did I alleviate ANYONE from this requirement, so the demographic is clear. If you are an "E-something", this applies to you. To some it applies even more, especially if you are a supervisor. If in a supervisory role, you are also accountable TO and FOR your people. MANY PEOPLE ARE ASKING WHY I INITIATED THIS 5MT TO BEGIN WITH. Well.Before we delve into the "whys," let's first revisit the "Who, What, Where, and When" parts. Those were provided in BOTH the initial and follow-on emails that I've attached. The "how" was left completely up to you. - Who: Every Enlisted member assigned to the XXXAEW. - What: Be able to RECITE from MEMORY the Airman's Creed and "sing" the first verse of the AF song - Where: In public forums during Wing events or when asked by senior leadership. - When: Primarily by 1 September 2011 - How: Based on your personal preference - WHY: To forge LEADERSHIP and FOLLOWERSHIP capability and to drive Enlisted uniformity during ### AEW ceremonies. My dad worked as MX troop in the 8th TFW in Thailand, while I always took his stories with a grain of salt, he like everyone else would have followed Robin Olds to the depths of hell. One of his favorite stories was how the old guy took the time to know first names and hometowns of all the maintainers, I'd assume as many of the other enlisted troops as well. One leadership style based on personal interaction, trust and a willingness to give a shit vs. a style based on intimidation, needless information and worthless embarrassment in front of peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaarman Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) Not really leadership, but incoming crews should note: Marriott of Doha lost the laundry service contract, and has been replaced by blue shirt wearing "Dream Laundry Services." I turned in my laundry on the 1st, came back on the fourth, said "not ready, come back tomorrow." Came back on the 5th and only my flight suit was ready - so I went back to talk to someone about it. In the back, I filled out a Laundry Investigative Complaint form, and wrote the above. Came back today (the 7th) and after the guy disappearing for 15 minutes, coming back and saying "not ready, come back tomorrow" I asked to speak to the guy in charge. I ended up speaking a the white guy in a suit and tie (Emoh?) who gave me some lip service, asked if I wanted to wait while he called the Operations Manager at the warehouse (I did) and listened to him read every item I was missing, along with ticket number and Complaint Form #. Said to check back tonight, and talk to the night supervisor, named Kevin. Furthermore, the base contracting officer was in the back talking to everyone else. I did my own laundry today. Every time I went in, there were of 4-8 people complaining with lost items/clothes not ready/people getting random ABUs & other people's clothing. The Wing CC had dinner with us a few days ago and we let him know as well. Furthermore, on a related note, I came back to this in our crew's hallway: Edited September 7, 2011 by xaarman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Every time I went in, there were of 4-8 people complaining with lost items... The Wing CC had dinner with us a few days ago and we let him know as well. OSI needs to get involved. Losing uniforms is a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaarman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Just a heads up through the email chain: From our shirt, an email chain forwarding: Good Afternoon Shirts, First and foremost, I apologize for the experience your members have had with the new linen contractors. As you may know, the laundry linen service changed contractors on 1 Sep 11. Both the Force Support and Contracting Squadrons are aware of some the issues the new contractor is facing and at this time we are providing them as much information and support as we can to resolve some of the initial problems. As you can imagine, there are growing pains anytime you change over to a new organization as the processes will undoubtedly change and it will take time to make it a seamless process once again. That being said, I wanted to pass along some temporary changes to the hours of operation at our Laundry Linen Exchange. The linen exchange will close between 0830-1030 and 1400-1600 daily until further notice. These hours are in place to mitigate the growing pains and allow the contractors to improve on their service. Your continued feedback is appreciated. We will be using these comments in order to continue to tracking and monitoring the service from your point of view. Your members have the option to file a claim to be reimbursed up to $50 per item that the contractor loses if there is no resolution to their missing item(s). Please let me know if you have any questions. V/R From the FSS Commander: 1. Linen Contract: Execution is not going well. We are fully aware of the issues (lost items, missing items, not clean items, long lines) as our quality assurance folks have been at the facility constantly. They also visited the downtown portion of the operation. Please continue to send the feedback. We are working with ECONS to help the contract through the initial performance period. Our folks will also be advising your shirts and chiefs periodically and we've elevated the situation up our chain as well. Won't sugar coat anything - this is a huge challenge right now and is understandably frustrating your folks. We'll advise as the situation changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 That being said, I wanted to pass along some temporary changes to the hours of operation at our Laundry Linen Exchange. The linen exchange will close between 0830-1030 and 1400-1600 daily until further notice. These hours are in place to mitigate the growing pains and allow the contractors to improve on their service. This is my surprised face. Task a group of shoes to work on solutions to a customer service problem, and "reducing service hours" is bound to percolate to the top of the idea list. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 This is my surprised face. Task a group of shoes to work on solutions to a customer service problem, and "reducing service hours" is bound to percolate to the top of the idea list. The linen exchange will close between 0830-1030 and 1400-1600 daily until further notice. Are they otherwise open 24 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Login Name Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Are they otherwise open 24 hours? No of course not....they're just open from 0800-1600...and from 1030-1330 they are closed for training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 No of course not....they're just open from 0800-1600...and from 1030-1330 they are closed for training Seriously, 0800-1600? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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