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  1. Commercial airliners have reached a safety margin of about 1 accident per million flights. 

     

    Let’s assume somehow these aliens have not figured out how to improve safety beyond that rate despite developing faster than light travel or interdimensional travel. David Grusch said 5 have crashed in the past 100 years, which would mean there have to have been at least 50000 UFO sorties. Yet with billions of cell phones with ever increasing quality all we get is the same grainy bs. And they only seem to be interested in Americans for some reason.
     

    Absolute clown show but hey at least congress is working together 

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  2. On 6/3/2023 at 12:54 PM, bfargin said:

    Sure a lot of people smoking each others poles throwing out “faggot” at me like it’s an insult. I thought you were telling me it’s normal and good. So am i supposed to be insulted or proud to be labeled a bone smuggler. Make up your mind

    You should be proud brother it’s not an insult, totally normal hiding terabytes of gay porn on your computer while going out of your way to hurl bullshit against gay people online.

    I’ll double it and throw 200 down

  3. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/22/covid-omicron-variant-ihme-models-predict-140-m-new-infections-winter/8967421002/

    "Researchers found the infection-hospitalization rate of omicron is about 90% to 96% lower than delta, and the infection-fatality rate is about 97% to 99% lower. In the past, we roughly thought that COVID was 10 times worse than flu and now we have a variant that is probably at least 10 times less severe,” Murray said. So, omicron will probably … be less severe than flu but much more transmissible.”

    Lol the left is shitting on the CDC now, still think they're right. I'm team covid parties now I guess. This variant is basically a super spreader cold now and vaccines are widely available. I'm boosted and I'm pretty sure I have it. Everyone popped where I'm at. 

     

  4. 7 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

    Which implies that the flu has always existed at the literal edge of contagions that require a federally-mandated response. 

     

    I doubt most Americans would have accepted that characterization of the flu before everything became a political battle.

     

    But that would at least be *something.* We have been given nothing.

    I agree and don't think the line is there, just wanted to give an example of one where mandates would clearly not make any sense since you said nobody had ever given one. 

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  5. 6 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

    Just tell me what the mandate is supposed to accomplish, *and* the minimum statistical improvement in that metric for you to feel like compelled action is justified. 

     

    I asked this question since the beginning of the pandemic, and none of the "pro-mandate" crowd has ever answered it. What is the metric for when this shit is over? What is the limiting principle?

    Hospitalization/death rate with no countermeasures less than or equal to the flu rate is an clear line you could point to. Suspect next variant will be there already.

  6. 1 hour ago, ViperMan said:

    I'm not traditionally religious, but do you really think this? IMO all humans are religious - see the new religion of wokism taking root. Some people know what they're religion is called...man other 'enlightened' ones think they're above it. Like it or not, something in your life is functionally equivalent to religion, you just may not know what it is. The religious instinct runs much, much deeper than thinking a dude does or doesn't live in the sky.

    I think it's a generous interpretation of the word 'religious' when I think what you really mean here is ideology. Everyone has an ideology, not everyone follows an organized theistic doctrine, which is what I think most people would agree religion is. 

  7. 1 hour ago, bennynova said:

    we are trying to solve a 1% risk by throwing an unknown, but likely greater risk (long term and short term side effects) on top of it.

    You're assuming there is no long term risk for having COVID either, which we also don't know. What evidence so you have to suggest one has a higher long term risk than the other? 

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    1 hour ago, glockenspiel said:

    Also significant data from Israel suggests that natural immunity is better than uninfected vaccinated persons. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

    response: “ but there was an increase in immunity after 1 dose of the Pfizer vaccine in the Israel study.”

    Just read the Israeli study, convincing enough to me that natural immunity should be treated similarly to vaccination if you have the antibodies.  If the antibodies were permanent (which they are not) I would support an exemption for mandatory vaccination in the military if you have natural immunity. Though as this transitions to an endemic there will likely be an annual vax requirement similar to the flu. 

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  9. 24 minutes ago, Lockjaw said:

    If you really think there is only impact on an individual for any of those items, I'd be happy to share many tales proving otherwise from my days in EMS.

    You're reducing my argument to something I don't agree with. I specified exponential and hospital overloading for a reason, none of those things do that. Not to mention even if they did they don't have a readily available cure/vax/etc you could take. 

    I don't want anyone to die of COVID, and certainly not a policy I would want to happen. This is just a compromise I am willing to accept for the libertarians who want no public health mandates.

  10. 3 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

    Because if you’re proposing that those who are unvaccinated not be allowed medical care for COVID, then why should medical folks provide care for HIV, overdoses, etc to those who use drugs?  Why allow those who are not married be treated for STDs?  This is what happens when you pick and choose.  

    Same argument I'll repeat. Those things affect an individual, and don't spread exponentially to others overloading the health system.

  11. 5 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

    That argument died when a highly effective vaccine was offered to the entire at-risk population free of charge.

    Tbh I'm privy to this argument as a compromise. I'd be in favor of eliminating all public health mandates as long as all unvaccinated were denied medical services (absent any exceptions) relating to COVID. It's against the spirit of the health profession though so it would never happen.

  12. 1 hour ago, glockenspiel said:

    We want to avoid hospitalization and death- that is the important thing, not total “cases”. I thought the purpose of the vaccine now was to reduce symptoms? 

    That is the purpose for the individual but not for the public; again from a public health standpoint cases matter as well because the r0 is 5-9 people so every case is potentially more hospitalizations or deaths. Total cases is directly correlated with hospitalizations and deaths. 

  13. 2 hours ago, glockenspiel said:

    if someone has natural immunity for CV19 how does that person affect the health of others?

    They can still get COVID again given sufficient time, but even if that wasn't true there is no way of knowing who has natural immunity and who doesn't in a practical enough matter to prevent the deaths public health policies are trying to prevent. In other words, even if you as an individual have natural immunity, that fact is irrelevant when considering public health policies (like mandatory vaccination). Hope that is clear enough.

    Also, here's a study showing a third of COVID cases don't produce protective antibodies, so even if we had something like antibody cards you could still pose a health risk to others.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/9/21-1042_article

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  14. 16 hours ago, glockenspiel said:

    That I am against mandating that anyone to reduce their risk. Although it would help you be healthier, Would you be in favor of the government forcing you to eat real food? Forcing you to take particular supplements? (insert “Floride” argument- I got a well so go f yourself), Forced exercise? All of which could arguably reduce your risk of death from covid greater than a vaccine could.  I wouldn’t want to live in that world.

    False equivalence, none of the things you listed can affect the health of anyone but yourself.

  15. On 6/18/2021 at 10:20 AM, ViperMan said:

    The net effect is that the mainstream media is L biased, but most people don't see it as so.

    4 years of "CNN is fake news" and people still argue there's a huge perception gap with the public that doesn't exist.

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  16. 9 hours ago, pawnman said:

    So...things that Trump did, but Biden gets credit for?  Aside from the Paris Accords, I suppose.

    I never said Trump admin doesn't get credit for vaccine rollout, Afghan policy, and stimulus bill. I don't see what's wrong with saying it's a plus the current admin is continuing to accomplish these and also get credit for what they've done so far.

    5 hours ago, M2 said:

    Hilarious, I truly hope you were kidding!

    Why? I wasn't and can elaborate if you want to actually discuss without insulting and going off on a tangent about the media. 

    20 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

    Trump did a lot of things wrong, but the vaccine rollout was not one of them.

    Definitely not. When did I say that? Not sure why many of you here are jittery to attack an argument I'm not making because I'm not in your ideological tribe.

    2 hours ago, pawnman said:

    In that case, the current economic recovery is due to Trump, right?

    Probably easier to admit Presidents don't have the power to affect the economy that much (and shouldn't), but sure if you want to make that argument and be consistent. 

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  17. 4 hours ago, lloyd christmas said:

    I would genuinely like to hear from a Biden supporter on this thread.  I’d like to hear how they think things are going and what their perspective is.  I’m trying to find reasons to be hopeful for this administration but I’m not having much luck.  

    Things seem to be going fine. Hard to be hopeful if you're a conservative but:

    Pulling out of Afghanistan 

    Rejoined Paris Accords 

    Vaccination rollout 

    Cabinet appointees

    Stimulus Bill 

    Infrastructure Plan https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/bidenomics-explained

     

     

     

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