Jump to content

droptime

Registered User
  • Posts

    25
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by droptime

  1. Thanks for the input guys. I guess being an actual traditional reservist (ATR?) at 1 weekend/month, 2 weeks/yr is another option. Not nearly as much of a time suck as continuing mil flying. I'm not as concerned about follow-on healthcare as my wife, but leaving the safety blanket completely is a little nerve wracking. 

  2. On 10/5/2021 at 8:42 AM, SocialD said:

    As someone who has done two jobs for the last 8 years, I can say, I've lost a ton of money for being in the Guard (cost of doing business).  But more importantly, I've lost TONS of my free time and life on the outside...that's the truly painful part.  I've talked with so many guys who've said their only regret was not getting out earlier and they can't believe how much free time they now have.  I absolutely can not wait to get out and only have one job. 

    Would you recommend going to the airlines and not pursuing Guard/Reserves? I will more than likely be off active duty at about the 10 year mark and am dreading the thought of working 2 jobs for the next decade. My wife's big concern is healthcare now and after I would retire at 65, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who have pulled chocks and figured it out. 

  3. On 10/29/2021 at 4:11 AM, guineapigfury said:

    I've been through this.  Here is my experience from 2016.  First the Air Force will offer you continuation (usually to 20) or not.  If they don't offer, you will receive involuntary separation pay (assuming you did not write a "do not promote me" letter to the promotion board).  If they do offer continuation, you can accept or not accept.  If you accept continuation, you just continue to serve in the Air Force.  All of your relevant ADSCs still apply, but there isn't any new ADSC for accepting continuation.  If you do not accept, you have a few months to get out of the Air Force (6 IIRC).  Be aware that this counts as an involuntary separation, but you won't get involuntary separation pay.  The distinction matters because Big Blue processes involuntary separations for officers MUCH faster than voluntary separations.  A voluntary separation has to work its way through all the wickets to the approval authority who is the SECAF.  An involuntary separation is approved by literally some SSgt at AFPC.  I was able to get out in just over a month.

    Separation is set for 6 months after your 2nd time passed over, but you were able to separate a month later? So you do not have to wait the entire 6 months? How long do you have to decide on continuation?

     

    As for the 5 look rumor, I contacted a person at AFPC who said the AF is looking into it but it's not changing in the near future. It's undergoing a Rand study.

  4. 2 hours ago, guineapigfury said:

    Continuation will be offered or not offered following you getting passed over the second time.  When you hold that continuation letter, you are now in possession of a Get Out Of Jail Free card.  You are 100% free to decline continuation.  I had two+ years left on UPT ADSC and it wasn't a factor.  I also had some ADSC for transferring some of my GI Bill to my now exwife and that wasn't a factor either.  If someone is telling you that you are "required to accept continuation" they don't know what they are talking about.  Please see the two files below for what I got in 2016.

    I appreciate the info. Looks like I won't owe anything on the GI Bill if I Palace Chase, but I'll have to confirm that with the VA. My only concern now is accidentally making Major on the next board. I've considered writing AFPC to decline promotion consideration, but I don't know how that would affect PC afterward. I'll wait to see what our in-service recruiter responds with.

  5. 2 hours ago, guineapigfury said:

    When I was passed over for Major, I got my continuation offer letter from the CC the day after being notified.  When he told me the day before the official release of the list, he already knew I'd be offered continuation but the paper work lagged a bit.  YMMV.

    Was that after your 1st pass?

     

    Just talked to MPF. Big question that the rep couldn't answer was:

    If passed over twice, am I required to accept continuation since I still have 3 years left on my pilot ADSC, and 1 year left on 9/11 GI bill ADSC?

  6. 3 hours ago, brabus said:

    ISP will be peanuts compared to what those extra years of seniority, 401k, bonus, and massive boost in QOL will be worth. I bet the majority of ARC units will give zero s about being passed over; they’ll care if you’re a good dude and pilot. Remember, the ARC is full of dudes who got out of AD because of all the jackassery - they’re not going to side with AD on your non-promotion. 

    Totally agree. ISP would be nice, but not required. 

    The current plan is to make my case to my CC and AFPC that letting me Palace Chase now gets roughly 11 more years out of me, still qualified and an IP in my previous MWS. The alternative is them keeping me until the next board and me getting out a year from now. At that point I'd probably just make a clean swap between 'officer first' and 'first officer'. 

  7. 3 minutes ago, Bergman said:

    Well shit, thought I heard something about a pilot shortage.  Guess not!

     

    Sorry to hear about the board results.  Start lining up Guard/Reserve visits and make it happen.  IMHO most units are far more concerned with “good pilot, good dude” than whatever AD block checking BS is the flavor of the day.

    Thanks. I'm in the middle of PIT so I'm hoping it won't be too hard to switch over to the reserves at my UPT base. 

  8. 6 hours ago, brabus said:

    Start rushing guard/reserve units and get a job lined up/get your apps in. Don’t wait until you receive a no on the 2nd board. Can you decline an APZ promotion and separate when you still have ADSCs?

    Looks like I'll have 6 months after the next board results before I'm kicked to the curb or offered continuation. At this point I'd rather not get promoted, just to have some certainty on how to proceed. But I don't know how declining promotion would affect future guard/reserve prospects. Probably doesn't look good

  9. 2 hours ago, Snuggie said:

    6. From what I've been told PC after being passed over twice isn't impossible, though it takes some extra paperwork. As long as the unit you want to join see it as you getting screwed over by AD and not being a bad bro they will be able to hire you. I was prepared to go down that road but then I was picked up the 2nd look and dropped it. 

    Good luck, it was a massive gut punch for me to be considered bottom 7% of my year group when I did what the AF asked of me. But it made my stay/go decision easier as I knew what big AF thought about my chance to make O-5 and I didn't need to roll the dice. 

    If I'm passed over again (likely, since I'm sure the same PRF won't do any better on the second round) I think I'll pursue Palace Chase while waiting to hopefully get hired by the airlines. Then do reserves/airlines from there on out. 

    Yeah it's definitely a bad feeling getting passed over,  but I feel fortunate that I have over a year to come up with a plan. Many people don't have that luxury! 

    I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

  10. MPF at my duty location won't pick up any of their phones. MPF here at my TDY location basically said I'm not their problem. So I'm just looking for general guidance/advice as I rethink my life plans.

    I got the call from my CC yesterday saying I won't be making Major. I didn't get a DUI or harass anyone or get any other type of paperwork. Just didn't make the cut. it happens. Any input on the following questions would be greatly appreciated:

    1. Is there any point in requesting a records review? 

    2. If passed over twice, will I still have to fulfill my ADSC or will my Date of Separation be set to 6 months after the second board passes on me?

    3. Will I be eligible for Involuntary Separation Pay if passed over twice, and having not finished my ADSC?

    4. If I decline continuation (if offered), will I still receive ISP?

    5. If I accept continuation, will I still receive ISP when I eventually separate?

    6. Can I Palace Chase now, passed over once? Can I PC immediately after being passed over twice?

    7. Does anyone know if the next board with go back to being held in Dec? I'm trying to figure out if PRFs will be due in July again, giving me 3 more months to polish up mine.

    8. Will airlines care that I was passed over for Major? Again, no derogatory items in my file.

     

    I know these are mostly questions for someone in MPS, but I'm getting nothing from them and I've seen the wealth of knowledge that resides in this forum so I thought I throw this post out there.

    Thanks for reading and have a great weekend!

  11. From JTR para 4250 LONG TERM TDY FLAT RATE PER DIEM:

    B. Exceptions and Additional Factors. The following circumstances may affect per diem reimbursement:

    1. The lodging portion of flat-rate per diem does not apply when Gov’t Qtrs are available or provided or when suitable commercial lodgings are provided at no cost. If the traveler is provided one or more meals, or all meals at no cost, the GMR or PMR is applicable and flat rate per diem is not applicable.

    Does this mean the option to live off base without a Non-A (but at a reduced M&IE per diem) is no longer available?

  12. O-3+? Go to Travis.

    O-2-? Travis is really f-ing expensive.

    The house we bought was over $400K, a similar one on Dover would have been about $280K.

    Other than cost of living, there is absolutely nothing that makes Dover a better place to me, other than close proximity to a few awesome cities.

    Even with base living and shopping at the commissary CA is prohibitively expensive? Yeah home buying seems to be out of the question at Travis although I make O3 after about a year there.

  13. Of course, the obvious choice at face value is Travis, but I'd like to hear what anyone might have to say regarding Dover. I feel like my wife and I have Cali blinders on and I'd like to take a step back to make sure we are taking everything into consideration. If anyone has lived in both places it would be great to hear about schools for kids, commuting, crime, areas to live, how drastic the cost of living difference is, home buying, etc. But all info is welcome and appreciated.

×
×
  • Create New...