nunya
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One of the reps wrote a newsletter angry that it's not "full retro" meaning the full raise effective and back-paid to the amendable date.
A group is mad the pay rates are lower than the 2000 contract adjusted for inflation.
The health insurance isn't as good as FedEx and SWA.
The company 401k contribution is only 18% in a couple years and not higher. I've heard guys say they wanted up to 25%. The argument was that an old pension plan didn't require you to put money in, so they want the company to max 401ks for every pilot without pilot contributions. That's $66k for 2023, so you can easily max it out, but you have to make $367k for the company's portion to do it for you.
My gut says it'll pass easily.
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An older group nearing retirement wants/wanted a lump sum to make up for their terminated pension because they feel like they lack time to make up the difference with the “new” 401k system.
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This thread is about to get worthwhile.
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6 hours ago, bs98 said:
It sounds like regionals will accept the 61.51 PIC time as part of the 750 mil R-ATP?
The regionals aren’t the ones awarding you your R-ATP, the FAA is. And they explicitly say follow 61.51 rules.
https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/pilots/training/atp/ATP_AME_Job_Aid_GA.pdf
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41 minutes ago, mcbush said:
you can also try to argue the FAA's "sole manipulator of the controls" doctrine to claim some PIC time, but most outfits are only going to let you claim PIC if you signed for the aircraft.
Yes, that was my point, but without the negative implication.
At the low end of the industry, PIC = FAR 61.51 PIC. If you are looking at low end CFI or banner flying jobs and they ask you for your PIC, you give them the FAR 61.51 number, including sole manipulator. If you're applying at FedEx, they will specify that you only give them the I-signed-for-the-aircraft number.
To your original question… You’ll probably have 300-400 hours when you finish UPT and training. Your clearest path to aviation industry profit after UPT is to whore yourself out to every TDY, deployment, and exercise you can to get 750 on the .mil dime, no matter your airframe. Once you get 750, go to a regional and the path from there is pretty well established.
If you want to go a non-airline route, there are many, many paths through the woods. They're much less established and will take networking legwork, but they can certainly be more interesting than DFW-OKC.
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5 hours ago, CaptainMorgan said:
PIC time: If you go heavies, it’ll be zero.
That depends on who is defining PIC and what the definition of is is.
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10 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:
The SWAPA letter to the SWA Execs was pretty scathing.
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4 hours ago, lloyd christmas said:
But what I hear is that if a woman can be the sole decision maker when it comes to abortion or leaves their newborn at a fire station then a man should be able to abandon their child. I can’t get behind that. Maybe because I despise dead beat dads.
Let's try an academic exercise, starting with defining a few terms. Differing definitions will certainly lead to differing conclusions.
Dead beat dad: A dad that doesn't fight for his family, abandons them, or otherwise does not fulfill the role expected of a father.
Dead beat mom: A mother that doesn't fight for her family, abandons them, or otherwise does not fulfill the role expected of a mother.
Your argument is that dead beat dads are bad and should not be legally empowered to do dead beat dad things. I will ass-u-me that you also believe dead beat moms should not be legally empowered to do dead beat mom things.
Is abortion a dead beat mom thing?
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Easier said than done, but the sooner you can adopt a nihilist view of the AF "system," the better.
Allow me to wax poetic as an old guy for a minute. I don't mean unprofessionalism towards our craft. I don't mean disrespect for your wingman. I don't even mean insubordination. If you want a masters, great. Get it. If you don't want it, don't get it. The AF might kick you out as a passed over Major at 20 years. Ok. Your check of the month will be $600 less and the gate guard might not salute you quite as crisply when you go to the commissary during retiree hour. Or don't wait around to find out and get out at 12 years. I'd encourage you to go to the ARC, but if you don't want to, don't. If the AF is a lifelong calling for you, great. If it's just a job for your 20s, great. The system doesn't care which camp you're in - it'll be just fine without you and you'll be just fine without it.
Your work ethic, intelligence, and expectation of success puts you heads and shoulders above your workplace competition. Unless you go looking for that hot girl Molly, you won't end up homeless on the streets of Portland. If you're panicking about your promotion opportunities with this new bait and switch, I encourage you to go create a LinkedIn account. Seriously. Go look at who's doing ok in the world. Find and follow the people that you think have made it. Masters or not. Promotion or not. You'll be ok.
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44 minutes ago, hindsight2020 said:
I used to think JA (or equivalent terminology) was only an FFD carrier dynamic. Do all airlines effectively have JA work provisions? Kinda smears the glitter off the airline humblebrag about days off....
All the airlines I'm familiar with have something like this. While there are certainly stories of off-days being ruined by a gate agent handing you a junior/inverse/whatever assignment, the dirty secret is that it's often voluntary and pays up to double.
At my airline, it used to be they call and if you answer, it’s yours. So don’t answer. Now they call and a recording says call us back if you want it. Not exactly the way I was tagged via email involuntarily for Afghanistan.
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16 minutes ago, Prozac said:
M’Kay….where does it say they have to be VTOL?
I don't get your point. It's the same place that says the AF needs stealth, the Army needs dune buggies, and the Navy needs fleshlights. The puzzle palace people wrote a requirements report, lobbied, and got it approved.
If you're arguing the Marines don't need VTOL to accomplish their mission, ok, argue that VTOL is unnecessary and the Marines should have CVs. If you're arguing the Navy can provide the required airpower, that's incorrect.
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8 minutes ago, Prozac said:
Honest question: why?
QuoteThat the first sentence of section 206 (c) of the National Security Act of 1947 is hereby amended to read as follows: “The United States Marine Corps, within the Department of the Navy, shall be so organized as to include not less than three combat divisions and three airwings, and such other land combat, aviation, and other services as may be organic therein,
Until that gets changed, the Marines are required to have entirely organic capabilities.
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18 minutes ago, O Face said:
Serious question here, not trying to be a dick, but what advantage, other than cost I suppose, does the lightning carrier offer over other carriers?
Disclaimer: I don't vouch for the tactical prowess of the concept, WEZ, range, etc.
They talk about a more distributed force vs single center of gravity mega-carrier and better maneuver (33% less draft).
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3 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:
Anyone who thinks we are landing those things on contested beaches
Yeah, that's not how that works.
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I was definitely a travel agent way before I was a USAF pilot. Hotels for the crew, check. Cars for the crew, check. Oh wait, Andrews rental car place closed at noon. Ok, we'll call three taxis. Taxi driver got arrested trying to come through the gate. Can I hitchhike to the off base rental car center? DTS approver wants to know why I didn't get a u-drive. Ok, hand it all in 14 hours later. What's that Eng? We're broke? Ok, I'll get our cars back. Let's see if the hotel has rooms - wait - it's Friday night. Now I put on my lawyer hat because the load just called from jail.
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1 hour ago, skibum said:
"High-ranking US military..." since when does an O-5 qualify as one of those?
I gotta change my LinkedIn profile. “Senior C-Suite Executive executing executables and delivering deliverables on time and on target.”
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31 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said:
That's not going to go well once the FAA gets involved.
Sounds like they took reasonable precautions to avoid injury or damage to persons or property.
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6 minutes ago, Buddy Spike said:
Looks like he was trying to make a rejoin happen with his element and went belly up and never saw the B-17.
Certainly plausible. His belly-up-ness struck me first, too.
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17 minutes ago, brabus said:
My completely uninformed guess is the guy had thousands of hours if he’s flying aircraft like that.
Not a fighter guy but incredible experience. Seems like he lived and breathed this stuff from childhood.
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46 minutes ago, GrndPndr said:
we should be asking how much formation experience one should have before attempting what we saw (join)?
A rejoin is a skill taught to UPT students 4 months into training with 6-9 hours of formation flying experience. That's the wrong question. The question is what went wrong that a guy that has done thousands of rejoins in dozens of aircraft suddenly screws it up? And my experience tells me the answer has a lot more to do with human factors (rushing, distraction, medical, etc) than experience or skill.
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It’s gotta be a serious passion project. There’s no financial or family reason I can think of to do it. You do get to do some cool shit in mil flying, but most of that you can do civilian, too, and turn it off and on as you feel like it.
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47 minutes ago, RegularJoe said:
I thought it was interesting that the NTSB report list this as "Air racing/Air show event" I don't think that was an accidental typo.
I don't think it's as nefarious as it might seem. Air Race/Show is simply an established category of "Purpose of Flight" under General Aviation Operations. It's likely as innocuous as the investigator checking boxes on his iPad and this is the one that best fit.
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On 11/30/2022 at 10:45 AM, Homestar said:
But if I were a T-1 reservist at Any Base, U.S.A., and not retiring in the next 12-24 months I'd be looking for a new job personally.
If you’re a T-1 Reservist living near CBM looking for a PIRR gig and you want to stay near CBM, DM me.
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14 minutes ago, torqued said:
Was also thinking of IWB holsters or lights or something.
My opinion is those are too personalized to gift. Holsters are like bras. Both gotta fit the way you want or they’re coming off. So I only buy uncomfortable ones for my wife.
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The new airline thread
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Posted · Edited by nunya
I completely agree, but I don't have a good answer. Do we kick it back and demand full retro because to accept less is a dangerous precedent? Do we take the pay and "get em next time?" What will the mediator say if we kick it back? I wasn't in the room, but my 69th hand information is that she wouldn't be thrilled. Does that even matter? Do we go to self-help over retro? I believe Congressional interference in the recent railway dispute bodes poorly for what little RLA leverage we had.
Like I said, I've got no answers.