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joe1234

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  1. I didn't say don't talk about them, I said it needs to be relevant to their future. Keywords "their future".

    Doing this requires having to actually relate to what they want in life, and understanding how things  have changed since you were in, and how they are likely to change in the future. That's an actual useful insight.

  2. 10 hours ago, brabus said:

    But I’m also honest and not going to just rant negatively while pretending I didn’t have a lot of positive experiences along the way. You’re arguing there is no positive picture to be painted and everything is shit. Must be miserable going through life as such a negative person. 

    Show me where anyone made that argument. I'll wait, cause I know you're making shit up right now.

    What I'm talking about is that you keep going on and on about your own experiences. "I can name positive experiences...", "I just paint...", "I'm also honest...". In the post before that, you went on and on about how some kid that goes to Delta at 23 "will never have the badass experiences I had" and so on.

    It's not about you bro, goddamn, try taking yourself out of the conversation for 5 seconds. You even assume others must have been miserable while they were in, because otherwise why would we not agree? That's because recognize that it's not about us. It's not about you.

    It's not about your past, it's about relating relevant info about the kid's future, that's literally all I'm saying. Great that you can share stories from your past, but if that's all you have to offer, then you're hopelessly out of touch.

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  3. This is exactly what I mean by out of touch.

    Sure, you personally couldn't give two fucks how senior he'll be at 65 or how much he'll make, but, dude, nobody's asking you. You're not the recruit, he is. He gives two fucks. That's the point. These kids don't care about your experiences, don't think it's badass, and certainly don't give a shit about your bros. The proof is right there in the numbers.

    You have to meet these people where they are and make a case for how the military might the best way to achieve what they want (regardless of what that is). If you can't make that case, then, maybe your case doesn't have much merit.

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  4. This entire thread is literally that Principal Skinner meme where he's like, "Am I out of touch? No, it's the kids who are wrong!"

    Anyway, I'm absolutely steering my kids away from the military. It's a great deal for some working class kid from a flyover state in a recession like I was, but at least I had an economic justification to willingly be a pawn of American imperialism.

    Sure, serve your country, patriotism, blah blah blah, nobody's falling for that bull in 2023 besides the rare few who are already signing up.

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  5. 5 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

    Capitalism is being raped by the modern financial system while everyone else argues over bathrooms and abortions. The Democrats have declared war on meritocracy and individualism, both prerequisites to a capitalist system, so that leaves the Republicans to save us. I'm doubtful.

    Man, that whole post was a rollercoaster. It's either a genius work of satire, or.... well....I hope it's satire.

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  6. On 5/3/2022 at 3:43 PM, Newb said:

    Whenever I talk to people looking to fly for UPS/FedEx, they say it’s because “boxes don’t b****”.

    Are passengers really that painful to deal with? I’ve never encountered any issues being a customer before. 

    Allow me to put another spin on this. I prefer flying with pax. Never had to divert for a sick person, but you're on company time and pay protected for the trip anyway, and honestly I'd rather be the guy in the chain of events who helped saved a dude's life.

    I also like having kids come up on a preflight, sitting in the seat, and giving them the little plastic wings. I like chatting with FA's in the cockpit during bathroom breaks because some of them are really cool and from all different walks of life, and a not-insignificant amount of them are curious about aviation. Hell, most of them are locals and so we talk about local stuff too.

    IMO most of the people who say boxes don't bitch tend to be rather misanthropic anyway. I actually enjoy human interaction, but to each their own.

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  7. On 4/14/2022 at 3:45 PM, SurelySerious said:


    When I did my 73 training last year and the runaway stab quick reaction item was new to them, I was astounded. As referenced, the plain stab trim part of the system is nearly the same as both old Boeing products the AF flies and has had BF items for years to address.

    If a jet hadn't crashed in the 90s because of a runaway trim, it wouldn't be nearly as stressed in training. Just like how unscheduled rudder and dutch roll recovery was glossed over until 2013 even though there's warnings and boldface addressing it in the manual.

    If you need 5000 hours of military heavy jet time just to safely fly a boring vanilla passenger jet, that's a severe design flaw. And those flaws stem from the original sin of Boeing's greed followed by the FAA's incompetence.

    And it's wild to me that actual pilots will sit here with a crabs in the bucket mentality shitting on foreign dudes while Boeing was caught red handed at the crime scene with the murder weapon.

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  8. 54 minutes ago, Agent P said:

    Guard guy on long term (not AGR) orders, I'm just wanting to finish the set of orders I'm on in leave status and double dip legally and use up my leave, not returning to on-orders status and just DSG from that point on.

    Very true and hence the question

    You know what, the only one who can 100% answer that question is the training department at your airline. Call them up and ask them, and let us know what they say.

    edited to add: Just sell the leave back dude. Stop trying to game a system that you have no experience with. We don't even know which airline you're talking about, so the question is pointless.

  9. 4 hours ago, Agent P said:

    Is there any legal problem with going to airline training while on regular leave? 

    Got a lot to burn and want to use it up at indoc then sim training 

    There's not many ways to permanently fuck up an airline career, but getting fired off of probation and having to explain it at every future interview because you tried to pull some slick shit at the end of active duty and got caught is probably one of them.

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  10. 11 hours ago, brickhistory said:

    My biggest and saddest realization during the Kung flu is just how many Americans happily/blindly/cooperatively (take your pick) gave up their individuality and ability to make personal health decisions.

    Well, I for one was pretty eager to give up my individuality and upload my consciousness into the gay space communism hivemind (powered by aborted fetuses, probably) in order to keep making beaucoup $$$.

    I'm not really a fascist, though, just an opportunist.

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  11. 38 minutes ago, hockeydork said:

    The irony is.....everyone is saying Lewis got robbed/stolen from. The only one who got robbed is Max, having is first WC be totally legitimate... he'll never get that opportunity again. Way to go. The ultimate move would have been if VER refused to pass Hamilton. My god, the respect i would have had for him. 

    On that note, rumor mill saying that Lewis has convinced Toto and Mercedes to drop the court case entirely.

    I gotta say, he has handled this whole thing with a hell of a lot more class than you could ask of any human.

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  12. It doesn't matter if you don't feel sorry for Lewis not getting an 8th. It doesn't matter if the 5 cars were the only ones that mattered. What matters is that everything was completely arbitrary. In this case, everyone is under a safety car, and you're coming up on the last lap. Every time up to this point in F1 history, when they've decided to unlap cars, it's either been all or nothing. And in the rulebook, the safety car is supposed to exit the lap after the unlapped cars. In either case, the race should have ended on a safety car -- that's what's in the rulebook.

    So, if you're Merc, it makes sense to not pit Lewis because you'd give up the lead. The problem is, the race director decided to unlap only 5 cars, and pulled out the safety car early. It was completely arbitrary, one that gave Max a massive competitive advantage at the most critical decision point of the whole season. It's like getting hooked for flying a Q1 approach because the CC doesn't like the Vol 2 standards, but then not even telling you until you're in the flare. And when you complain, the CC investigates himself and finds that he has committed no wrongdoing.

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  13. 4 hours ago, GrndPndr said:

    Wow, Toto sure can whine.  Lewis seemed more gracious with a little help from his Dad (good on you Dad).

    A race which was obviously worth watching to the very end.

    Well, I imagine that's because his pitting strategy probably relied upon the idea that FIA would actually follow their own rulebook.

    Congrats to Max. It just sucks to get 99.99% of the way to a championship, only for the ref to help push you over the finish line.

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  14. 6 minutes ago, Blue said:

    I've heard this said a couple times about AA and Phoenix.  As an outsider looking in, I'm left scratching my head.

    My impression is Phoenix is growing like mad, with lots of industry, lots of wealthy retirees, and lots of.....everything.  I'd think AA would want to protect and grow what they have there.  Instead, I continually hear about AA not being committed to Phoenix.  What am I missing?

    There's more pieces to the puzzle than just population. Gate utilization and availability being an important one. Even then, you have to separate connecting traffic from origin/destination traffic. Maybe it's easier to route people through LAX or DFW than PHX.

  15. 10 hours ago, CaptainMorgan said:


    I totally agree with the AWACS crews’ decisions. Your suggestion that he revert to being an FP is what could cause an FEB.

    I didn't suggest that, someone else did. And just because an FEB is possible, doesn't mean it's probable. A lot of things would have to precipitate that.

    5 hours ago, HeloDude said:

    funny how if I started questioning why they didn’t want to fly (because I and others wouldn’t have canceled) most guys would decide to go.  

    Not surprising...most active duty pilots live in constant fear for their careers, and thus are easily intimidated. Which I always thought was kinda sad. Oh well.. sucks to suck.

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  16. 14 hours ago, CaptainMorgan said:


    Need those PIC hours for later. Also, you could be looking at an FEB.

    If dude was already an IP, he's probably good on PIC hours. And then, what, FEB a guy because he made a safety of flight call the CC didn't like, despite an otherwise unblemished flying record?

    1. The board would laugh and reinstate the pilot immediately.

    2. Everyone in his chain would get embarrassed and look like jackasses.

    3. The CC would lose all trust and credibility with his instructor corps over such a pointless and petty decision to pull the qual.

    4. It'd make a great story at an airline/guard unit interview about being committed to safety in a toxic flying culture. Active duty is notorious for that BS and I assure you being a yes-man PIC is NOT seen as an attractive quality on the outside.

  17. 11 hours ago, Bigred said:

    Using the weather example above, if a PIC says no to flying with 300 & 3/4 when the mins are 200 & 1/2, I’ll back up his decision and he doesn’t fly that day. I’d also recommend he lose his PIC designation and needs to go through requal.

    Same pay for zero responsibility sounds like a hell of a deal to me.

  18. Look, I'll take weather down to mins any day of the week (what can I say, I'm a badass), but if you put a PIC's name on the flight authorization, then the decision to go or not yours; it's his. Doesn't matter if you think he's being weak, or isn't living up to his qualification level, or whatever else. The only opinion that matters is the PIC's. Doesn't matter if it's 300-3/4 or CAVOK. It's his prerogative.

    Either cut a new authorization with a new PIC, or deal with it. You don't like how he makes decisions? Stop putting him on flights. Maybe there's another conversation to be had with that guy's unit commander, but lol if he's a guard dude, because nobody is going to believe some deployed active duty DO nerd over one of their own experienced EPs.

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  19. Idk man, everyone is talking about flying 2-3 legs a day, commuting, or how to maximize their pay. Seems like a lot of work. Easier to just move to a junior base, sit reserve, and join a nearby guard unit.

    At this point in my life, I'm basically just a stay at home dad that either goes to play dress up at the airport a few days a month (if that) as a 3rd year WB F/O, or I go play dress up at the squadron, drink beers, and bullshit with the boys during the mil leave periods I utilized to avoid having to fly.

    This shit is checkers, it ain't chess.

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