lloyd christmas
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4 hours ago, ClearedHot said:
I agree cautiously...The younger generation is spoiled and soft...Iphones, safe spaces, remote work, and a general dislike of hard work has opened the door to uber progression socialist ideas that promise free everything. A lot of them voted in this last election to elect a self-described democratic socialist who is actually a communist to be the mayor of NYC. Even more troubling was the election of the Virginia Attorney General, a man who sent text messages advocating not only to kill his opponent but to put bullets in the heads of his children. Can you imagine the outrage if a mainstream conservative said such a thing? The fact that these shitbirds were put in office is a warning shot that the younger generation is looking for leadership and as of now they are finding it on the FAR left.
I agree. I think the right is underestimating the political energy and direction politics is headed in this country, mostly in big cities. I think socialism and open support for violence against the right is taking hold of a larger and larger percentage of the population. The question is, when will the dems find a way to remove themselves from the violent leftist progressives? Let the progressive’s behavior and ideas stand on their own outside of the Democratic Party. This country desperately needs bad examples and we are about to get two of them, one in NYC and the other in Seattle.
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27 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:
Won't matter soon, free/cheap beer at all those soon to be city owned grocery stores.
If you give the government the power to feed you then you give the government the power to starve you.
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3 hours ago, Swizzle said:
There was a similar crash of a DC-10 in 1979 in Chicago where the engine on the left wing separated from the aircraft.
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Question for the masses. We’ve all seen countless CRs, a few shutdowns, endless dysfunction, petty politics, division, etc. from our politicians over the years. I know I have in my almost 25 years in the military. To me, this one feels much much different given the state of politics in our country. I think this may be a tipping point of some sort. A time in our history where the government actually stops functioning, where the two sides won’t budge and can’t come to an agreement on even basic issues. I think the hate is as real as the egos. I can see this one dragging out long enough to the point where critical functions are severely impacted like the military, TSA, ATC, etc.
My question is, what trip wires do you all see in our system to either prevent this or end this if these politicians can’t work through things?
Thoughts?
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When I was in my late teens and early 20s I worked in the rental car industry. The company wouldn’t call a vehicle in as stolen or missing until the 30 day mark because of the possibility of a clerical error leading to a felony stop. You can’t rent a car longer than 30 days on one contract because it becomes a lease after 30 days.
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2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:Given the absolute soulless depravity of modern democrats, our nation would not survive.
Spot on.
It is interesting to consider what would happen if a right wing third party popped up in our system. As powerful as Elon is, I don’t think he would get the support he is anticipating. Republicans aren’t pulling chocks from camp Trump and the radical wing of the Democratic Party was just burning up Teslas and calling him a Nazi, all while being supported by some in democratic leadership.
What’s easier to see playing out is the democrat party continuing to spiral into fractured irrelevance. By every measure, the Democrat party is utterly failing. Hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing or have fled from blue states to red, the party is polling positively in the low twenties, they’re losing in court on nearly every issue, something like 90-95% of counties in the country shifted right during the last election, donations to the DNC are drying up, more and more prominent people are switching party affiliation, Trump won all 7 swing states, the Joy Reids of the world are getting fired and the legacy media is on life support, etc.
My point is, I can see the Democratic Party splitting (it may have already) before the Republican Party. I truly believe that the vast vast majority of Americans are done with the radical, irrational and crazy social experiments that the democrats represent. That is all they have left and instead of reading the room, they double down. I’m genuinely interested to see how this plays out. We can’t have one party rule in this country. We need two healthy parties to balance power. I hope the democrats can figure their problems out and rebuild into something more moderate.
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2 hours ago, Pooter said:Interesting that the only “manias” listed are the ones the left succumbed to. Conveniently absent are: stop the steal, Obama birtherism, Benghazi, but her emails, pizza gate, qanon, vaccines cause autism, wind turbines cause cancer, the great replacement, white genocide, the war on Christmas, satanic panic, immigrants eating dogs in Ohio.. to name just a few of the right’s greatest hits.
Turns out, sniffing out manufactured manias and herd mentality is only hard when the propaganda aligns with your pre-existing biases. It’s actually super easy to tell when the “other side” is acting crazy. These guys haven’t discovered anything or improved their BS detection skills at all. Any discussion of groupthink that doesn’t acknowledge it going in both directions is fundamentally un-serious.
Thanks for the response Pooter. I’m not one to get into internet arguments or go back and forth with people online. But, I’ll respond. I honestly wasn’t trying to compare one side vs the other, I was simply trying to point out that there is some interesting science behind the manipulation of large groups of people through politicians and the media and that there are real negative, tangible consequences because of the manipulation and herd mentality. With that said, I’m struggling to see how pizzagate, Obama birtherism, wind turbines cause cancer, the war on Christmas, satanic panic, or immigrants eating dogs are anything other than silly clickbait.
Those headlines have not had a tangible negative effect on our society. The other examples you listed have had more tangible negative effects on us. Americans died because of gross mismanagement and poor decision making by those in charge in Benghazi, much like the exit from Afghanistan. Vaccines may or may not cause autism, however the truth is coming out about the vaccines. And it’s not good. Stop the steal references the 2020 election. We should all be aware of how big tech, social media, legacy media, politicians and Hollywood coordinated to suppress one side of the political aisle while ignoring true scandals by the other including the laptop and the pay to play schemes the Biden's were involved in. Hindsight is 20/20 and the truth always comes out. Hillary’s emails and the facts surrounding that fiasco exposed the double standards in the legal system between regular people and those in power. That’s tangible and factual. You and I would have been locked up for what she did.
BLM marches and the associated violence based on policing lies caused real destruction as well as setting race relations back. Trans issues are very real. The massive increase in the trans population needs addressed. Whoever or whatever is driving this for profit scheme needs exposed. There are endless young people being physically altered permanently because of it. Jews are being harassed and now in at least one example killed over violent rhetoric on college campuses.
Yes, groupthink is an issue on both sides. No doubt about it. I’m interested in the science behind it. That’s all my original post was meant to highlight.
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2 hours ago, BFM this said:No-one has to. It's obvious at this point. If whatever media you choose is headlining something that rhymes with "fine people on both sides", it's 99% certainty that checking the surrounding two minutes or less of tape will yield the polar opposite of the narrative being peddled.
I’ve been doing a lot of reading/listening/watching content discussing the science of manipulating people’s brains to create “social mania”. In the last 10-15 years there have been countless examples of the herd believing and amplifying whatever the new mania is overnight. Some examples being the #metoo movement, BLM, systemic racism, Covid lockdowns, Nazi’s, trans, Biden’s cognitive ability, Russia Russia Russia, etc. It really is fascinating to read how the media and politicians exploit the natural instincts in human beings to fear things and in turn negatively react to emotional stimulus. It is pure propaganda and it is extremely effective. Dan Crenshaw (who I don’t care for) did a podcast with Arthur C Brooks about it. I’ve linked it below. It’s a fantastic listen and worth the hour and a half of your time. Lionel Shriver has written extensively about this as well. I’ve posted a link to one of her articles.
The problem is, there are real negative effects on our society and how we interact with each other. Police officers have been killed due to policing hoaxes, 2 people were just shot and killed in DC by a guy shouting Free Palestine, Trump was nearly assassinated, etc. The endless race hysteria has created “black fatigue” which hurts race relations. At the very least, this mess puts people in boxes and those that believe the hysteria rarely, if ever admit they fell for the hoax. “a social frenzy seldom subsides because its agitators announce they were addled, just as the masses of ordinary people caught up in the derangement seldom acknowledge having been led astray. Everyone simply moves on, only to become consumed by something else.” - Lionel Shriver. We see this time and time again with people on this very board. People leave or never post again rather than admit they were wrong. Those that stay, often double or triple down on their opinions even when faced with the eventual historical truth.
https://unherd.com/2024/04/how-to-spot-the-next-mania/
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9 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:
I hate to dog-pile on Biden on the day they announce he has a very aggressive form of cancer that has spread to his bones, but I challenge anyone to go listen to the newly released tapes of his special counsel interview about the classified information and tell me that dude is not completely fried in the brain. He could not remember when he was the Vice President...after listening I am not sure he knows he was Vice President.
The machine did its very best to put us through some alternate reality regarding the whole Biden affair. That level of coordination and manipulation perpetrated on the American people will hopefully never be seen again. I’m glad the truth is coming out so we can all see what is being exposed. I don’t believe the democrat party or legacy media will have significant influence any time soon because of it. Progressives and their politics are just an annoyance for the vast majority of the country. That’s why their favorability numbers are so historically low. Something else will be born out of those ashes for sure and we will see what it becomes. Hopefully, level headed democrats will form something to counter the republicans and we can have a semi functioning government again.
I am sure this will come across as insensitive and too early, but I am not excited about watching the machine paint Biden as a saint when he goes, and I’m betting he goes quickly after this diagnosis.
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35 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:
Dems can’t stop picking the losing side. They just can’t help themselves.
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43 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:
All this fucking around with people's life savings is epically retarded. The GOP will get flushed in the midterms.
Screw it, I'm loading up on SQQQ
We will see how well this post ages. There will be a lot happening between now and then.
For the elderly or those about to retire, I’m sure the markets are extremely stressful right now.
For me, I feel a strange sense of peace now. Not because I trust this administration more than another, but because I’ve watched all the various internet and media driven hysterical narratives just fall apart year after year. Our society is completely divided culturally. On one side there is reality and on the other there is an emotionally driven, hyperbolic, hateful and easily manipulated side. A side that allows itself to continue to be manipulated. That goes for both sides of the aisle.
The economy will be just fine. I’m betting it will actually be much better in the end.
It’s a really good time to invest in America’s markets.
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Seems to me there are two different questions to ask.
First, is the use of Signal approved for this level of classified conversation between these specific people (minus the reporter)? If it is approved, then that part of the story is now moot. If it is not approved, these guys have a massive problem and should be punished to the full extent
Second, how did a journalist get on the thread? This was clearly maliciously done or was gross careless negligence. Seems to me that this is the real issue.
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Admittedly, I’m not well versed on tax policy or law. When I hear/read these arguments about the 1% paying more, corporations paying more or Bezos not paying a fair share etc, I always wonder why a company like Amazon is not looked at in totality. How much do they pay in excise taxes on gas for cars and aircraft, property taxes, income taxes generated by employing thousands of people, SSN/FICA/Medicare, sales tax on what they purchase, sales tax paid on their products by the consumer who buys their products, etc? I guess I’m missing something because it seems like a guy like Bezos is generating untold amounts of tax revenue for both the local and federal governments.
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On 1/23/2025 at 2:12 AM, ViperMan said:
Moderators, we have a Name, Image and Likeness violation here. Nobody asked if they could use my image.
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The idea that the AF is trying to erase the history of or not teach about the Tuskegee Airmen is one of the most ridiculous stories I’ve ever read. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at the number of people I know that have bought into this garbage. The amount of laziness it takes to fall for something like this is astounding. The AF literally has at least two current units that I know of that have a direct lineage to the Tuskegee Airmen. The Alabama Air Guard F-35 unit has a tail painted red. Those units represent and honor the service and sacrifice of the Tuskegee Airmen every day. And we all should honor them. Their story is one of the most powerful and inspiring stories in the history of our USAF.
There is a huge difference in getting rid of DEI curriculum that discussed the Tuskegee Airmen and trying to erase their history. It’s not hard to understand with just a minimal amount of effort.
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The left and the power structure associated with it knows that the truth will come out. And it’ll be sooner than later. Pardons don’t prevent investigations or info from being released they just prevent charging someone for their crimes.
Let the truth come out. All of it. We just witnessed the most destructive 4 years in our nations history, politically speaking.
Today it all changes. Let’s get to work rebuilding this nation.
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Eric Shawlm is exactly right.
I read a good op ed in the Washington Post that talked about where this began. The author pointed to bipartisan legislation around 2010 dealing with climate change. The groups looking for policy changes related to the issue gave up on the democratic process after the bipartisan legislation fell apart. They intentionally changed their tactics and began setting up non profits and other organizations to fund and organize radical activism to achieve their goals. Those goals aren’t limited to climate change. They intentionally use issues like racial equality (BLM riots), COVID, anti Israel/free Palestine, anti capitalism/pro socialism, anti police/defund movements, no kings, etc as excuses to cause chaos and mayhem in an effort to destabilize our system. They are very well funded and organized. There’s a second part going on beyond the riots and that is elections. Zoran in NYC is a product of this movement so is the mayor in Seattle.
I think they got exactly what they wanted with these 2 shootings in Minneapolis. They know if you blow whistles, honk horns, spit on, scream through bullhorns, park your car blocking the roads, dox, threaten officers and their families and constantly interfere with law enforcement operations for days on end that you’ll eventually get an officer to make a bad split second decision. Neither of those activists had any business being there other than to be a part of the chaos. I think the Alex Pretti situation was a bad shoot. But, the chaos was designed to get that exact outcome.