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	I want to be a pilot (ideally fighters) in the Air Force or Navy. I’m currently entering my freshman year of college at a school that has AFROTC. Keep in mind, I was accepted to this school for spring semester this year, so if I do AFROTC I’ll start a semester behind most of my classmates (not sure if that changes anything). <br />
	 
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	If I want to fly, should I join AFROTC when I get to school in January, or should I wait until after college and try to get a pilot slot through OTS/OCS? I wasn’t sure where my chances would be higher. I have a non-technical major, but I think I will do well in it. 
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	Thank you!
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">24281</guid><pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>OTS Application Process</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/24253-ots-application-process/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hello to all,
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	My apologies if this has already been covered. For officer training school, do you have to apply for multiple jobs, or can you strictly apply for one job? IE, I want to be a pilot, am I forced into applying for another job, or can I choose whether I apply for jobs other than pilot? Reddit threads have made me question my knowledge on the process.
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	Thanks!
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">24253</guid><pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2025 15:08:01 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>JROTC Experience</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/23971-jrotc-experience/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I retire in 2 months and starting to look at potential jobs.  One thing I was considering was JROTC instructor but wanted to see if anyone had any experience knowledge on what it's like.  From what I've found it talks a number of things including drill, marksmanship, teaching classes, among other things.  Are these classes similar to ROTC classes or do they expect me to roll right in and teach these kids calculus? How do the bonuses work?  One location has a $6200 stipend which I assume is a one time deal but also returns the AF contribution to the instructor? Just looking for any info possible.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">23971</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2024 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>OTS classes 21-04, 21-07, 21-08 "on hold"?</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/23357-ots-classes-21-04-21-07-21-08-on-hold/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hey y'all, I stumbled upon <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/airforceots/comments/liitgo/ots_hold/" rel="external nofollow">this post</a> in r/airforceots on Reddit about the April, July, and August OTS classes being on "hold", particularly for those going rated and doctors/nurses.  Anyone else hear anything about this that can confirm or refute?  I just got confirmation to attend OTS for the April class (21-04) as a Guard pilot candidate.  Supposed to be receiving my orders on Monday.  Thanks in advance to anyone who has some additional insight!
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">23357</guid><pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 00:26:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>ACTIVE DUTY AF/ ROTC/ GUARD QUESTIONS</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22233-active-duty-af-rotc-guard-questions/</link><description><![CDATA[<p style="color:#454545;font-size:16px;">
	<span style="font-size:16pt;">Hello, so first and foremost I apologize if this post is in the wrong thread. I’ve been looking around and haven’t found anything to specifically answer my questions. I’ve been browsing the Air Force subreddit, posted a lot on there in regards on advice and guidance in general. A pilot (civilian who’s trying to join the ang) told me about this website so I thought I’d give it a shot.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:16pt;">Alright so some background info, as the title suggests I’m currently active duty. 20 years old, based in macdill with the stratotanker. Maintainer, I joined with zero college, almost done with my cdcs so I can start working on my associates. This is where it starts to get a little hairy for me. I’ve spoken with a captain about two or three scholarships the Air Force offers for Rotc. </span>
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	<span style="font-size:16pt;">My hopes are to get accepted into these programs and further my education full time and get my ppl to increase my pcsm. Also to have a high gpa and commanders ranking obviously.  Now where things get confusing to me is I keep hearing to go ang or reserve. And I was hoping to get some more advice on that, not only that but advice on what choices to make now and what steps to take.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:16pt;">I read that macdill also has a guard unit, I went to a briefing on palace chase and palace front which is essentially a program to join guard either 2 years before your contract is up or when your re-enlistment date comes around. So if for some reason I don’t get accepted into these scholarships does that seem like a feasible option? If so do I join with my associates and go to college full time (Rotc) and also be in the guard? Is that something you’re able to do? Financially is this do able? I’m married FYI.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:16pt;">Well I can go on and on about this, I have a lot of anxiety when it comes to figuring all of this out, it’s something I love doing. Flying is something I enjoy and am hoping to make the most out of my career. It just seems like something that’s out of my reach, which is strange because of all the routes I see. In a sense the more research I do the more unsure I am about WHAT to do. </span>
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	<span style="font-size:16pt;">So thanks for reading this short essay on how confused I am, I’m hoping I can get some clarity from people who either A. Have done it or B. Know how it’s done. Again thanks for taking the time to read.</span>
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22233</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2018 15:58:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Pay rates and Entitlements during TFOT, IFS and UPT</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22101-pay-rates-and-entitlements-during-tfot-ifs-and-upt/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Howdy,
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	Married ANG guy here with a baby (both of whom will be going to UPT with me). Finally just got my dates for TFOT, IFT, and UPT. I'm sure I'll have some briefings that deal with this when I'm at drill next month, but I figured I could start getting educated on what kind of pay and entitlements I can expect during different phases of the training pipeline.
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	Currently I'm sworn in / gained as an E3.
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	For example, I should be eligible for BAH while I'm TFOT, correct? Just want to make sure my paperwork is squared away so that I don't have to worry about my mortgage payment while I'm away for 8 weeks. 
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	Thanks for any help / resources you can offer!
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22101</guid><pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>FY 2021 TFOT Schedule</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/23154-fy-2021-tfot-schedule/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Has anyone heard any word on FY2021 dates? Not sure when they usually release them.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">23154</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:52:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>O-1E Pay-grade - OTS Points</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/23117-o-1e-pay-grade-ots-points/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I'm an ANG guy of almost 8 years (mostly DSG, now Title 32) and I've accumulated a lot of retirement points, but not quite the 1460 points that the O-1E pay-grade requires. Not trying to count my chickens before they hatch, but I have been trying to figure out what I can do to squeeze those last points out before commissioning. Does anyone know if OTS itself contributes to those points? In my mind, it should, since it is my understanding you are paid at an enlisted pay while training.
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	Also, if anyone with ANG/AFRC experience has figured out any tricks to getting more points, I'd love to hear them!
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">23117</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2020 15:18:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>does OTS have Supplemental boards?</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/23096-does-ots-have-supplemental-boards/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Just curious if OTS rated boards have a supplemental board like AFROTC does and when is it?
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	What happens to the slots filled by cadets who end up being DQd or leave for whatever reasons?
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">23096</guid><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2020 20:13:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Doing Afrotc with Gi Bill and only 2 classes to complete degree. Start new degree? Dont want to do OTS</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22959-doing-afrotc-with-gi-bill-and-only-2-classes-to-complete-degree-start-new-degree-dont-want-to-do-ots/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Planning to complete most of my degree while enlisted using TA. I want to do Afrotc since they get the majority of the pilot slots (2nd to the Academy of course).
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	I dont want to miss out on using my Gi Bill to it's full capacity (e5 bah plus tuition) so I was planning to either Minor in something while I do Afrotc or start an entirely new degree.
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	I spoke to someone on a different site and they said I "cant do this."
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	I want to know from others if it's possible to do this? (Since every det. Is different)
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22959</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2020 17:25:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Anyone have any experience with California detachments that take 422/IMR in place of DoDmerb examination?</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22859-anyone-have-any-experience-with-california-detachments-that-take-422imr-in-place-of-dodmerb-examination/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I'm in in college and thinking of joining the California Air National Guard to help pay for college since I'm too old to get AF-ROTC scholarships (I'm 32).
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	My plan is to do AF-ROTC and Air Guard at the same time.
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	I was told some AF-ROTC dtachments take the Air Guard's 422/IMR in place of DoDMerb medical exam and I want to get the opinion of those who's detachments allowed them to do this.
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	Was it difficult to get your detachment to take 422/IMR?
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	Another side of this is that I have read countless stories of awesome cadets being DQ'd over absolutely nothing and I figure 422/IMR would help me avoid being DQ'd.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22859</guid><pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2019 03:20:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>ROTC Pilot slots cut by 140?</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22824-rotc-pilot-slots-cut-by-140/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Word around town is the upcoming February rated boards will be cutting pilot slots by about 140 and apparently there will be no Pilot/CSO options for the upcoming September supplemental boards, just ABM/RPA. 
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	Can anyone confirm?
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22824</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2019 18:32:24 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>AFROTC VS Marine PLC Aviation Contract</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22572-afrotc-vs-marine-plc-aviation-contract/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I would like to be a pilot in the military. I will be starting at a university in a few months and I am trying to weigh my options. I am quite interested in AFROTC, but, I don't like the uncertainty of getting a pilot slot. A few weeks ago I found out about the Guaranteed pilot slot through USMC PLC. Which of these paths would you guys advise? Additionally, I am not too concerned about the airframe. I'd love to get a fighter, however, i'd be happy flying any manned aircraft of each of the branches.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22572</guid><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 02:28:58 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Joining detachment as a sophmore (3 year ROTC program)</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22312-joining-detachment-as-a-sophmore-3-year-rotc-program/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I went a few pages back and didn't find much on this, but per forum etiquette, sorry if this topic has been answered.
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	I am currently a sophomore in the process of joining the detachment at my school. I've done the application and as of now I'm just waiting until orientation. I understand AFROTC is traditionally a 4 year program and I know that means I will need to double up on the courses and grasp the day to day operations in order to catch up.
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	Has anyone here joined their schools detachment after completing a year of undergrad already and has gone through the program?
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	If so: 
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	a) Does joining late make me less competitive for a rated slot?
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	b) Do you have any advice on how to catch up? (ei. supplemental information/guides I can use)
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	Thank you for your time
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22312</guid><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2018 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>AFROTC scholarships</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/21152-afrotc-scholarships/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Is it possible to get a scholarship while you are in AFROTC? I really don't think I have that great of a chance of getting a scholarship going into college, but I know I'll be working hard during college. So I was Just curious if this the Air Force did this for cadets?
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">21152</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 01:06:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>TFOT seats question</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22363-tfot-seats-question/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Does anyone know how the seats in tfot work? I was talking with an AD recruiter and he said that tfot is booked into 2020.  What I want to know is tfot as a whole booked that far or do the seats for Guard/reserve fall under a different projected schedule so to speak? For instance, in each class is so many seats reserved for AD and so many for Guard/reserve 
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22363</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 13:10:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>University of Arizona AFROTC</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22430-university-of-arizona-afrotc/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Any current AFROTC cadets on here at the U of A?
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22430</guid><pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2018 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>USF (det 158) rated slots/ questions</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22315-usf-det-158-rated-slots-questions/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	First and foremost thanks for reading, I’m currently enlisted in the af. One year mark is coming up in August, I signed a four year contract and haven’t been able to start college yet (different story). I’ve been saving up for my ppl and doing research on Rotc vs guard/reserve. I want to fly tankers, or any heavy jet to be fair. 
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	Im 20, I’m a little stressed about what I should be doing now up until I’m in Rotc. I’m worried Rotc won’t be the best way to get a pilot slot. I’ve been considering calling the detachment but I’m not sure what to ask. By the time I’m in Rotc I’ll be 24 (unless I get accepted into a scholarship program). This is a very hard goal I’m shooting for, I applaud anyone who’s made it far enough to earn their wings. 
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	Sometimes I feel discouraged and unmotivated to keep chasing this dream, I don’t know what I should do. Right now I’m being the best maintainer I can be and learning my job, working on starting college. I don’t want to lose sight of my goals and hope to hear some more advice. This forum is awesome, I’ve posted a few similar threads. Anyways thanks for reading! 
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	Edit: forgot to ask for advice on detachments around the Tampa area, specifically USF.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">22315</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 00:34:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>In state tuition for ROTC cadets</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/21424-in-state-tuition-for-rotc-cadets/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I heard someone talking about how some states/school offer in state tuition to Cadets. Was wondering if this is true and if so what states/schools offer it? 
</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">21424</guid><pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2016 04:19:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Fitness In TFOT</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/21683-fitness-in-tfot/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Does anyone have any recent feedback on the fitness regimen in TFOT? I am not asking because I am worried about meeting the minimum. How often and long are the run sessions specifically? Also, any idea on the fitness schedule in UPT? Is it a mandatory 1hr per day? Thanks. 
</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">21683</guid><pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2017 01:19:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Published list of OTS start dates?</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/21937-published-list-of-ots-start-dates/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hello all. I'm a civilian who got hired by a C-130 guard unit.   Does anyone know if there is a published list of OTS / COT start dates? I just passed my FC1 and am expecting to have dates assigned in the next couple of weeks, but I'm wondering if I'll start OTS before the end of the year. Also, does anyone know how Christmas / New Year factor into the training cycle?
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	Thanks!
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">21937</guid><pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:44:48 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>AD Rated package</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/22006-ad-rated-package/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff;color:#353c41;font-size:14px;">When developing your package in ROTC for the Active Duty board, are there any factors that are put into your package that are outside of ROTC? Things like being a president of a student organization or any other type of leadership position. Was just curious.</span>
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	mods feel free to delete this if you feel it belongs in a more general topic or if i missed one that already exists.
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	What is the policy for taking leave as a Lieutenant on casual status, awaiting a UPT class date? Is it any different because of AETC or training status? I ask because it was generally not approved when I was an enlisted MRA MX student back in 2011.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">21128</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2016 02:04:40 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[ROTC --> Guard for current enlisted guard members]]></title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/21836-rotc-guard-for-current-enlisted-guard-members/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	I received this email several months back at my .mil address. Thought i'd share with the folks here since you all are so honest and have been there and done that, therefore I think this is the best place for me to get input.  I'm going into my sophomore year so the timing is perfect. I was already considering dropping ROTC and just finding a unit and going the OTS route but this sounds like much too sweet of a deal to pass up. The reserves also have a program like this and both of them are in their infancy so i'm not too sure a ton of commanders are aware of this yet. All the guys I've talked to (including current UPT) tell me how awesome guard flying is and i'm aware of the RegAF issues as much as someone who isn't actually in the middle of it can be.
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	Anyone have advice for me as for how to pursue finding a flying unit and contacting them with this information? I feel like an e-mail is a better form of communication with all the info here, especially if they aren't aware of the program but i don't just have a list at my disposal. Maybe i should call around as much as i can until i get a decent lead to continue on from there with e-mail communication
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	My background: 25 in a few days, 7 years in the reserves/guard so far. Aeronautics major with my PPL, working on commercial and instrument. Multi-engine and potentially CFI afterwards.
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	Here's the e-mail, i put it in an image because it's so long. <img alt="WOy0JDR.png?2" class="ipsImage" height="541" src="https://i.imgur.com/WOy0JDR.png?2" width="1000"></p>

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	Thanks!
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">21836</guid><pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2017 19:21:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Deciding to retake AFOQT</title><link>https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/21929-deciding-to-retake-afoqt/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hi folks,
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	I'm currently starting my final year of college also seriously considering retaking my AFOQT to try and improve my PCSM.  AS of the moment, I am planning on commissioning FY18, but that may all change.  Hear me out.  I'm not really one to be tact so I'll just say this the best that I know how.  At the moment, I have an RPA slot and as glamorous as the future of this career looks, it's not something I think I want for myself.  That whole idea of flying in a box, disconnected from everything that has defined flying  for the past century is something I am still not sure about.  
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	As of right now, my PCSM is at a 59.  I've taken the TBAS twice and AFOQT once.  I know that taking the AFOQT and doing better on the pilot sections can help raise the PCSM score, but I also recognize that failing any section of the test means losing everything I've worked towards these past few years and throwing away a big career I've longed for since my youth.  
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	However,
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	if I retake the AFOQT, I can raise my PCSM and hopefully get picked up on the supplemental board for pilot.   Maybe it may happen even if I don't retake the AFOQT, but still, maybe it won't and really all I want to do is maximize the variables that I can control and one such variable is that AFOQT.  At least once I have done all I could can I have a peace of mind and say to myself that I gave it everything you know?  I recognize that getting a higher AFOQT does not necessarily secure my chances of getting a pilot slot, but it would also hurt to not take it and have this lingering thought in my head.  That "what-if" scenario, what if I had taken that AFOQT and done better?  
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	I've spoken to friends and my cadre about this and all are against this move simply because of what I can stand to lose, a commission in the USAF and a job for next few years.  My cadre specifically noted that as an RPA I stand a higher chance of getting upgraded to a pilot than a CSO (can anyone confirm this?) and as such, the best course of action for me is, and should be, to remain still and let it play out because you know sometimes the best course of action is do nothing.  What do you guys think?  I
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	If anyone has been or is in the same shoe, I'd very much like to hear your input on this.  Thank you.
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		Should I retake it?  
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		How much weight does the AFOQT pilot scores have on the PCSM?  
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		If you've done better on the pilot section after your retake, how much did it affect your PCSM?
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		Is RPA more likely to be upgraded to Pilot than CSO?
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	Anyways, any help really is appreciated.  Thanks guys.
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