Buddy Spike 862 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Anyone know a good place to take the ATP written in the Montgomery AL area? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! We had some guys in my squadron drive over to Mobile and take it for free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChkHandleDn 45 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 We had some guys in my squadron drive over to Mobile and take it for free. Mobile is booked through August, so won't help for the ATP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaded 461 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I did my cfi testing at an fbo at the Montgomery airport. They had an FAA testing area. They probably have ATP also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Archa3opt3ryx 2 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Does anyone know anything about this reg: FAR 61.39 (c ) (2): " An applicant for an airline transport pilot certificate with a rating other than those ratings set forth in paragraph (b) of this section may take the practical test for that certificate or rating with an expired knowledge test report, provided that the applicant is employed: (2) By the U.S. Armed Forces as a flight crewmember in U.S. military air transport operations at the time of the practical test and has completed the pilot in command aircraft qualification training program that is appropriate to the pilot certificate and rating sought." I ask because I have about 400 hours total time (Commercial, Instrument, Restricted Multiengine). I'm starting F-16 B-Course this fall, but I don't think military flying alone will get me another 350 hours in 24 months. I'm guessing the F-16 won't qualify under "military air transport operations", but it's worth a shot...if so, it seems like a no-brainer to take the written ASAP, since then I'll have as long as I want to build enough time to take the practical and get a Restricted ATP at 750 hours. If not...might still be worth it, and try to make up the difference renting a Cessna or something? For reference, the applicable part of Paragraph (b) referenced above states: "An applicant for an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category multiengine class rating or an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane type rating may take the practical test with an expired knowledge test only if the applicant passed the knowledge test after July 31, 2014, and is employed: (3) By the U.S. Armed Forces as a flight crewmember in U.S. military air transport operations at the time of the practical test and has completed the pilot in command aircraft qualification training program that is appropriate to the pilot certificate and rating sought." Edited June 19, 2014 by Archa3opt3ryx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brabus 1,584 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Definitely take the written. If you end up overseas after B-Course (pretty good chance), you actually get an extension from the FAA on the two year thing, i.e. you can take a practical with an expired written so long as this is accomplished within 6 months of returning to CONUS from an overseas assignment. This data verified by two separate FSDOs. It is highly likely you'll have 750 total (combined, not Viper) at the end of your first assignment, easily will have it if you deploy. If you get a CONUS assignment, you'll still likely make it within the 2 year req if you deploy/do the Nellis grind. This of course assumes another shitstorm of sequestration doesn't hit and put you at 100 hrs/year. Edited June 19, 2014 by brabus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HossHarris 955 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Don't forget to include your ~200 hours from supt. doesn't count for shit in the Air Force...but perfectly valid flight experience for civilian totals! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Archa3opt3ryx 2 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Don't forget to include your ~200 hours from supt. doesn't count for shit in the Air Force...but perfectly valid flight experience for civilian totals!Yep, that ~400 hour number includes UPT/IFF.Definitely take the written. If you end up overseas after B-Course (pretty good chance), you actually get an extension from the FAA on the two year thing, i.e. you can take a practical with an expired written so long as this is accomplished within 6 months of returning to CONUS from an overseas assignment. This data verified by two separate FSDOs. It is highly likely you'll have 750 total (combined, not Viper) at the end of your first assignment, easily will have it if you deploy. If you get a CONUS assignment, you'll still likely make it within the 2 year req if you deploy/do the Nellis grind. This of course assumes another shitstorm of sequestration doesn't hit and put you at 100 hrs/year.Thanks for the info. Any chance there's a memo floating around with that OCONUS policy in writing? I just inevitably see myself in 3-4 years with an expired ATP test trying to convince a FSDO that I can still take the practical... Edited June 19, 2014 by Archa3opt3ryx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brabus 1,584 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Here you go. Search the FAA website for the FAR sections referenced in this document. SFAR 101-2.pdf Edited June 19, 2014 by brabus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Archa3opt3ryx 2 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Awesome, thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banquet Beer 0 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 For those that have taken the written, can you bring anything into the testing center like a calculator/phone or equations for some of the questions? I'm sure it varies on the testing center used but figured I'd ask. I'd love to take my iPad in with Sheppard Air on it but I'm sure that's frowned upon. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuggyU2 2,077 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'd love to take my iPad in with Sheppard Air on it but I'm sure that's frowned upon. Thanks. Call the testing center and ask. You're welcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chim richalds 66 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 no, you get a whiz wheel, and a kmart calculator. Dont sweat it, just memorize the shepp air memory aid and youll be fine. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 629 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 no, you get a whiz wheel, and a kmart calculator. Dont sweat it, just memorize the shepp air memory aid and youll be fine. Not only can you only bring the bare minimums, but they made me turn on the calculator and flip it over. You will not be able to use anything else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brabus 1,584 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 No need for a calculator at all, just do what chim said and you'll be good to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Homestar 881 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 My testing center didn't even have the right book of figures (not all were on the computer)...I passed. Thanks, Sheppard Air. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fresh 1 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Question for the masses...is there any way to take the written while deployed to a location without a testing center capable of administering the exam? I was schedule for the test earlier this month, went on a short notice TDY that was only supposed to last a couple days and ended up being at least a month in everyone's favorite shithole. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nunya 579 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 If you mean Osan or Okinawa, then you're in luck. Otherwise, I'm afraid not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HossHarris 955 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I think there's some sort of provision for deployed folks to get your foot in the door before the deadline. All rumor and conjecture on my part though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fresh 1 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I think there's some sort of provision for deployed folks to get your foot in the door before the deadline. All rumor and conjecture on my part though. I emailed some chick at the FAA and she said there are no extension waivers...running out of options Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY6584 24 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 If you're at the Deid they just started offering it... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ak47 4 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I emailed some chick at the FAA and she said there are no extension waivers...running out of options Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! PM me, we just got someone certified as a proctor at my location. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HercDude 264 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 If you're at the Deid they just started offering it... Apparently there is only one guy/gal who can proctor it, and they are booked up through the end of the month. But we had a guy manage to take it with about 2 days notice, so if you are there and need to take it, you should call the BPC ed center right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whall85 1 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Gents, I'm just finishing up UPT and I was wondering about the necessity of having my commercial, instrument (w/ME add-on) and Beech 400 type ratings PRIOR to taking the ATP written. I have heard a TON of conflicting reports -- some folks are saying that anyone can take the written, and some are saying that the post-UPT Mil Comp test (effectively netting me a commercial license) should be done prior to taking the ATP written. Those same folks who push for the Mil Comp tests are saying a grey area exists with FAA ATP practical examiners. Apparently, some examiners will NOT honor an applicant's written test, if they see that the commercial license is earned AFTER the ATP written test is taken. Others say the timeline doesn't matter. Can anyone offer any clarification on this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HercDude 264 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I took the written several months ago and the only rating I had was a PPL. So to answer your original questions, no - you don't need any ratings in order to take the ATP written or practical. I might be wrong on this but the content of the practical may be different if you don't have any other ratings (e.g. - you'll have to fly a Vmca demo). Your second paragraph confused the hell out of me, but if you plan on getting an ATP, I'm not seeing any reason at all to get a commercial before hand. Assuming, of course, you meet the hours requirements for an ATP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ARIs 'R' Us 35 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 To be more clear, you don't need any ratings OR hours to take the ATP written. You do need a drivers license. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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