Dupe Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Any of you fighter types out there bothered to talk to your FSDO about a 'special need' for getting fighter Sim hours approved by the FAA? 'Special need' was the term he recommended I use, as it garners more attention from the FAA. It could mean the difference between a lot of us getting a restricted vs. full-page atp, based on hours. I spoked to mine, he seemed interested in raising that request to the next level, would entail a FSDO coming out to certify your sims, but seemed easier that one would think. Anybody tried this before? To count time in a simulator (or "flight training device"), the device must be approved by the FAA under part 60. There's a whole FAA national program around certifying simulators: https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/nsp/ It's likely possible to get fighter sims approved, but I don't realistically see it happening. How are you going to answer "Why should we have FAA-certified sims for our tactical trainers?" when the OG asks? You'd also have to get the sim operator contracts modified as the FAA requires a qualitiy management program. The FAA process to get sims approved: relatively straight forward. The Air Force process to get "FAA approved" sims: insane and not needed to meet our mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 The restricted auto become a full when you hit 1500 TT. Even if you're short now at the time of doing your ATP checkride, I'd be really surprised if you didn't hit 1500 TT by the time you finished your 10 yrs ADSC and were able to go to an Airline. No way I ever see the AF letting the FAA come in and certify any fighter sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosepileit Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Chang, where are you applying? Need to get you on the special lists... Just try and fix any little part you can for big blue, those that saw a tipped balance to out do not need your advice. ps, 50ish FSDOs, 50ish interpretations. You know those pesky bureaucrats... Busted, not true for a simple overseas PCS. Notice all of the qualifiers throughout the regulation (always includes the statement, "...and was assigned to a U.S. Armed Forces operation..."). Don't count on this regulation saving you unless you've deployed from an overseas assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaarman Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Worked out well for me and some some other guys I know. It was scheduled for 5 days of flying last day being the checkride, ended up being 2 days of flying and 3rd being the checkride. PM me for more details. PM sent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon - Trident Home Loans Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 It's not just a 6 month extension, it's an extension to 6 months after your return date. And it works for overseas assignments too, not just deployments. That checks. You have six months from the end of the calendar month you return. You have to have been on a operational deployment for it to count per the FSDO office I talked to and my evaluator. I just brought a copy of my CED orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonedRiver Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) I just finished my ATP practical at Tulsa Community College this weekend. Great experience (I am a B-1 guy)! It's a small aviation department-- they fly a little Piper Seminole.I spent $1905 on flights/instruction + $600 DFE fee.I also spent about $280 for 3 nights at a hotel + around $100 in gas there and back.All very well worth in, IMO> I arrived Wed night. Thurs 1200 - 1730 was ground school - nothing earth shattering.I flew a 2.9 on Friday. I flew a 1.3 later Fri to clean up a couple things i sucked at on ride 1 (felt super comfortable/ready).I flew a 1.9 Saturday morning for my checkride -- walked out the door just after 11am.  Edited August 16, 2015 by BonedRiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PropWash Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Update - Downtown Aviation: MemphisLast week me and a few other guys from work all went to Memphis to knock out our ATP. As advertised, their examiners are now charging $400 instead of the $300 they used to charge. That being said, this is still money well spent.No one from my group took their checkride with Doc because he was out of town, instead we all flew with a lady named Karen. She has the right sight picture and not being guaranteed to fly with Doc should not dissuade you from going to Memphis. Everyone passed with no issues.Cost directly correlates to your flight time + examiners fee. From my group we varied between around $1650 to $1850.One final note, if you're still on the fence, I recommend you call today. They're scheduling people for next April now, so I'l let you math majors figure out how much time that leaves before the written tests start expiring.Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banquet Beer Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 How heavily did you study the gouge they send you before you went to Memphis? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 How heavily did you study the gouge they send you before you went to Memphis?  Sent from my iPad using Tapatalkabout 5 hours on the drive down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Anyone have information on the "Boston guy"? Â I have his name/number... Â left multiple messages, but he has never picked up and doesn't return calls. Â Any best practices on how to get ahold of him? Â Email address? Â Does he even do ATPs anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARIs 'R' Us Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Has anyone worked with crazy Carl recently? He opened up a new shop in Cali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herkasaurus Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Anyone have information on the "Boston guy"?  I have his name/number...  left multiple messages, but he has never picked up and doesn't return calls.  Any best practices on how to get ahold of him?  Email address?  Does he even do ATPs anymore?He's a unicorn, the only dude I knew of who did the program said it was awesome. But he left a message and waited for a response, which came within a week or so. I don't know what sort of magic 8 ball he uses to pick dudes, but with everything it's luck, timing, and luck.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amcflyboy Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 He's a unicorn, the only dude I knew of who did the program said it was awesome. But he left a message and waited for a response, which came within a week or so. I don't know what sort of magic 8 ball he uses to pick dudes, but with everything it's luck, timing, and luck.  Be careful with this guy.  He got busted a few years back and got decertified due to shady practices. The FAA was looking to go after some his customers and decertify them as well.   Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Be careful with this guy.  He got busted a few years back and got decertified due to shady practices. The FAA was looking to go after some his customers and decertify them as well.   Just sayin'source?He was still giving checkrides CAO last year per this thread... Edited August 18, 2015 by Champ Kind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slc Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 completed mine w/ Boston dude 2 years ago. Awesome. Nobody's come knockin yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Be careful with this guy.  He got busted a few years back and got decertified due to shady practices. The FAA was looking to go after some his customers and decertify them as well.   Just sayin'You sure you're not confusing him with Harry Bishop from NJ, who was fined and placed in jail, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeetango Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Stumbled on an outfit that is just north of Baltimore, Middle River Aviation. It's close to home and the price seems fair. They've got a Grumman GA7, nice looking airplane. Anybody have an after action report on this place?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) They've got a Grumman Cougar, nice looking airplane. Anybody have an after action report on this place?  Why do you want a single-engine ATP? Edited August 20, 2015 by Huggyu2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeetango Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Â Â Why do you want a single-engine ATP?Unless my eyes are failing me, she's a twin.http://www.middleriveraviation.com/grumman-cougar--n769ga.htmlSent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAg03 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Just heard back from Downtown Aviation, the first available date they had was at the end of June 2016. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Doing mine with a buddy at Higher Power. I doubt the 9-11 GI bill transfer lasts for my kids to see it... And if so, at least it doesn't eat up the whole thing. Plus a 737 type is almost a guarantee hire at SWA for a nice backup plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HercDude Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Doing mine with a buddy at Higher Power. I doubt the 9-11 GI bill transfer lasts for my kids to see it... And if so, at least it doesn't eat up the whole thing. Plus a 737 type is almost a guarantee hire at SWA for a nice backup plan.Great, now we get to hear more platitudes from Butters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Nah, I think we're good as long as we don't say his name 3 times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amcflyboy Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 source?He was still giving checkrides CAO last year per this thread...from guys i work with at Jetblue. Â They feared losing their ATP's. Â Said guy wouldn't give up the ghost. Â Unless we're talking about a different person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Â You sure you're not confusing him with Harry Bishop from NJ, who was fined and placed in jail, are you?My FE from my PPL in college haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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