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3 hours ago, Kitten Mittens said:

BADFNZ: No, I check in CMS.  I called yesterday since the last update I heard was "10 business days" but lo and behold 10 business days later they said again "should be to the next person by the end of next week."

herkbier: I submitted on 21 November and am only asking for 3 months off my ADSC...so submit as soon as you can, because even mine (which shouldn't have to go to SAF/PC) has taken this long.  They already told me I'm going to have to push my DOS back, so now it'll only be about 1.5 months relief from my ADSC.

Checks, plan on submitting one year out from the requested separation date. Have a few more months to wait. 

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PC approved.

Initial submission was on 21 Nov, and as I look back at where everything sat it was the Wing and a Group that f*cked around with it all the most. Completed package got to AFPC/PC on 12 March...so, give them 2 months to process everything and you should be fine...don’t let the Group/Wing sit on stuff and hopefully everyone is smoother than my process.

After all the delays and change to my requested DOS, ended up only being about 2 months off my UPT adsc.

Good luck all.

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Tried today, but the CMS trail already deleted since it's not an "active case" anymore...I'll actually log into CMS tomorrow and post each step it went through on here.

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PC approved.
Initial submission was on 21 Nov, and as I look back at where everything sat it was the Wing and a Group that f*cked around with it all the most. Completed package got to AFPC/PC on 12 March...so, give them 2 months to process everything and you should be fine...don’t let the Group/Wing sit on stuff and hopefully everyone is smoother than my process.
After all the delays and change to my requested DOS, ended up only being about 2 months off my UPT adsc.
Good luck all.


First off, congratulations. I’m hoping mine will be approved soon since it made it to AFPC on 1 March. Maybe they actually applied logic and pushed yours through quicker to accommodate the earlier separation date.


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Looking for advice...

I am a active duty pilot and have a guard unit that wants to hire me.  I am an O-5 with 15 years of service.  I have already served my initial UPT commitment, but I have multiple ADSC (school, Bonus, maybe even some left on GI transfer) that take me out to 2025.  I talked to an in service recruiter and he told me it was possible to Palace Chase still (although tough).  He said I would have a 6 year payback (since that's the max) and that the Guard would have to initiate the paperwork stating they were willing and ready to hire me.  Then I would have to run the Active Duty side for approval.

Has anyone ever heard of someone being able to get out of that sort of commitment?

Can anyone in the active duty chain disapprove Palace Chase or is the board always the ultimate decision authority?

Any advice would be much appreciated!

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On 3/11/2019 at 10:58 PM, Lifer said:

Anyone out there who took the bonus try to Palace Chase? And if so did it get approved?  Any details/lessons learned would be awesome. 

Did you ever get an answer on this?

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Alright, I’m getting antsy and sick of waiting on AFPC to pull the trigger. Has anyone tried setting a separation date for the end of your ADSC while having a PC application pending? The PC reg only states you can’t be within “6 months of a normal date of separation at the time of application.”

I’d like to set a DOS, start the ball rolling to get my family and our stuff packed and moved this summer. I can just hang out here and either wait for PC approval/terminal or even longer for terminal for my normal DOS. My ISR says setting a DOS will make me ineligible for PC. I’m not seeing that in the reg or the PSDM.


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If you’re at the end of your ADSC and separating, doesn’t that by definition make it Palace Front?

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If you’re at the end of your ADSC and separating, doesn’t that by definition make it Palace Front?

I’m not at the end of my ADSC yet, but will be soon. I’m only asking for 3 months off for PC, so I can move my family over the summer.


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42 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said:


I’m not at the end of my ADSC yet, but will be soon. I’m only asking for 3 months off for PC, so I can move my family over the summer.


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Right, but the part where you want to establish a DOS at the end of your ADSC, that makes it PF. 

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Right, but the part where you want to establish a DOS at the end of your ADSC, that makes it PF. 

Yes, I’m aware of that. I would prefer the slightly early out with PC, but I don’t want to have to sell back half of my terminal leave and I’d like to get TMO and all that stuff started. So any idea if you can do both at once?

 

Edit: Actually it wouldn’t even be both at once. I wouldn’t even apply for Palace Front unless they seriously delay my PC approval. I just want the separation date set to try to get TMO set up.

 

 

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Mine left the Wing and arrived at the PC office on 3 April.  Finally moved from PC to the Assignments team on 17 May.  How long from this point were you guys getting a tentative yay or nay?

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Mine arrived at officer assignments on 25 March. It got back to PC Separations on 22 Apr and still nothing. I’ll let you know when I hear something.


To answer my own question above for those that might reference this in the future, you cannot set a separation date and simultaneously apply for Palace Chase. According to AFPC, you can only have 1 Voluntary Separation application pending at a time. Leaving the Air Force at the completion of your ADSC is considered voluntary separation, so you’d have to cancel any pending PC application to do that. The table in 36-3205 says you can’t have a pending voluntary separation.


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Those of you who have gotten Palace Chase approval, do you get an official email notification or something?

My Voluntary Separation application has the signed resignation acceptance from the O-6, but the CMS routing shows it is still in process and sitting with Palace Chase Separations. I’m wondering if I can print the signed resignation and go start out processing.


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I’ll just keep answering my own questions since apparently everyone else who applied has peaced out.

The official email you receive with tentative approval explicitly states you aren’t cleared to out process. The guard/reserve unit then has to endorse your 1288 and send it back to AFPC to obtain final approval. I’m waiting at that stage. PC got to AFPC on 1 March, tentative approval 30 May.


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On 5/31/2019 at 5:22 PM, MooseAg03 said:

I’ll just keep answering my own questions since apparently everyone else who applied has peaced out.

The official email you receive with tentative approval explicitly states you aren’t cleared to out process. The guard/reserve unit then has to endorse your 1288 and send it back to AFPC to obtain final approval. I’m waiting at that stage. PC got to AFPC on 1 March, tentative approval 30 May.


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That seems lightning quick compared to what I've seen recently.  Mine has been at AFPC for almost 2 months with a long way to go.

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Ask your CC to check CMS to see which office, and then see if he’ll call/email them for a personal update. Mine had to do that twice to nicely nudge the app along. 

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I called the Total Force Service Center any time it sat somewhere longer than 10 days and they would open a CMS case. My ISR freaked out a bit when I told him I had already started out-processing, then he called a contact at AFPC to try to nudge it along. There’s no reason why it should take any longer than 2 months if it isn’t even going to SAF.


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I’ll just keep answering my own questions since apparently everyone else who applied has peaced out.

 

The official email you receive with tentative approval explicitly states you aren’t cleared to out process. The guard/reserve unit then has to endorse your 1288 and send it back to AFPC to obtain final approval. I’m waiting at that stage. PC got to AFPC on 1 March, tentative approval 30 May.

 

 

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Moose...I’m following along too. When I left for vacay last week mine had been sitting with AFPC PC Separations (after O-6) for 5 days. Nothing added from the O-6 to the form on my voluntary sep app. I tried to care but could only think about cold drinks and Cabo beaches at the time. Hopefully when I get in tomorrow it’ll have moved. Likely not though.

 

Edited to add: I applied mid-Jan ‘19 for a mid-Jan ‘20 sep. No rush yet. Hopefully AFPC doesn’t push it out much further though.

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I called the Total Force Service Center any time it sat somewhere longer than 10 days and they would open a CMS case. My ISR freaked out a bit when I told him I had already started out-processing, then he called a contact at AFPC to try to nudge it along. There’s no reason why it should take any longer than 2 months if it isn’t even going to SAF.


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Good technique. I'm a few steps behind you. What set of initials is the Functional? Mine went from DP2ORM back to DP2OR but no changes to my AFPC attachment in my app.

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Mine has been at DP2ORM7 for 14 days.  Escalated the case yesterday.

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