matmacwc Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 21 minutes ago, WTFAF said: Yeah, that place was terrible, right? We don't want different perspectives, attitudes or skills going in to the FTU. More Liquid types please. No really, the product was below average (generally) once in the USAF system. Don't get me wrong, good dudes and all but we aren't the Navy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFAF Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 No really, the product was below average (generally) once in the USAF system. Don't get me wrong, good dudes and all but we aren't the Navy. I was never an FTU or UPT IP so I'll defer to those with the first hand knowledge & experience. But I did go through Whiting and thought I did OK at the FTU...and also may have been a tad defensive. Dunning-Kruger I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 9 hours ago, magnetfreezer said: Tell them to increase the hook/washout rate from Pensacola/UPT... should get rid of some of the attitudes/skill issues coming in the AF and give a better quality input to the FTU. The quantity over quality mantra is the name of the game at UPT right now. IFS was changed to IFT because "screening" is too harsh. I spoke with an IFT IP a few days ago and he said the washout rate in IFS was around 10%, and now it's around 3%. T-6 IPs are kicking studs to multiple CRs before they get washed out. From what I understand unless they quit everyone returns from their first CR. Guys have been non-vol'd to -38s to fill the increased student load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 11 hours ago, magnetfreezer said: Tell them to increase the hook/washout rate from Pensacola/UPT... should get rid of some of the attitudes/skill issues coming in the AF and give a better quality input to the FTU. That really doesn't do much to increase our through-put at the FTU, but I'll float the idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 4 hours ago, matmacwc said: No really, the product was below average (generally) once in the USAF system. Don't get me wrong, good dudes and all but we aren't the Navy. It's an Air Force program. Has been for about 5 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osulax05 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Pawnman, I think matmac was talking about the old whiting pilot trng program, not the Pensacola Nav err CSO school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 6 hours ago, Boomer6 said: T-6 IPs are kicking studs to multiple CRs before they get washed out. From what I understand unless they quit everyone returns from their first CR. Not true. At least not at DLF. There have been a few "multiple CRs" typically 1 phase 2 and 1 phase 3. There is by no means a free pass on your first CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Lol. Always the one guy who lives on 88 ride to 88 ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12xu2a3x3 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 On 7/21/2016 at 4:55 PM, tx_flyer said: Nine -38s in END track select today, 3 of which will PCS to Sheppard. wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleJack Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) XL 16-13 Active Duty 38s A-10 Davis-Monthan F-15C Kingsley F-15E Seymour Johnson F-22 Tyndall 2 x Saudi Fighters T-1s T-1 FAIP T-6 FAIP KC-10 Travis KC-135 Birmingham KC-135 Mildenhall KC-135 McConnell 2 x C-17 McCord C-17 Charleston Pretty sweet everyone got one of their top choices. *Edit to note that this is the 2nd class in a row where RPAs were on the drop sheet but not assigned… & add A-10 to DM Edited August 13, 2016 by SimpleJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudemanbro Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 CBM active duty drop for 38s: F16 F15E F15C B1 T6 FAIP F35 Don't fully remember the T1 side. A lot of really nice bases on their side though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Frank Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/7/2016 at 1:45 PM, SimpleJack said: XL 16-13 Active Duty 38s A-10 F-15C Kingsley F-15E Seymour Johnson F-22 Tyndall 2 x Saudi Fighters T-1s T-1 FAIP T-6 FAIP KC-10 Travis KC-135 Birmingham KC-135 Mildenhall KC-135 McConnell 2 x C-17 McCord C-17 Charleston Pretty sweet everyone got one of their top choices. *Edit to note that this is the 2nd class in a row where RPAs were on the drop sheet but not assigned... Is the lack of RPAs twice in a row just a coincidence or are they actually trying to move away from giving those in UPT drops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishBowl Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Don Frank said: Is the lack of RPAs twice in a row just a coincidence or are they actually trying to move away from giving those in UPT drops? Originally, it was only supposed to be for a year so maybe they actually stuck to their word. Color me shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bode Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 The word was that 16-12 would be the last to drop RPAs so it sounds like they made true on their word. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleJack Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 The word was that 16-13 would be the last to drop RPAs, however neither 16-12 nor 16-13 actually dropped any at LX. As to why they were on our drop sheets, we assumed the Flt/CCs were messing with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 VN 16-13 -38s: F-22 F-15E F-16 A-10 T-38 FAIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 wow those drops are sick! enjoy it boys and girls you're dropping in the good times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bode Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 XL 16-13 Active Duty 38s A-10 F-15C Kingsley F-15E Seymour Johnson F-22 Tyndall 2 x Saudi Fighters T-1s T-1 FAIP T-6 FAIP KC-10 Travis KC-135 Birmingham KC-135 Mildenhall KC-135 McConnell 2 x C-17 McCord C-17 Charleston Pretty sweet everyone got one of their top choices. *Edit to note that this is the 2nd class in a row where RPAs were on the drop sheet but not assigned... Thought there was a C-146 as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleJack Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) On August 13, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Lstcause257 said: Thought there was a C-146 as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I only included AD in the original post... Guard/Reserve: C-146 Duke Field, FL (AFRC) MQ-9 Hancock Field, NY (ANG) C-130J Little Rock, AR (AFRC) KC-135 Milwaukee, WI (ANG) KC-135 Phoenix, AZ (ANG) KC-135 Niagara Falls, NY (AFRC) Edited August 23, 2016 by SimpleJack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 On 8/9/2016 at 11:20 PM, BashiChuni said: wow those drops are sick! enjoy it boys and girls you're dropping in the good times! No they're not, students now are obviously just superior performers and their assignments reflect that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 7 hours ago, Danger41 said: No they're not, students now are obviously just superior performers and their assignments reflect that. I agree. "Best seen to date" is now 100% accurate on grade sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I agree. "Best seen to date" is now 100% accurate on grade sheets. Or "Best seen today" would probably be more accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Or "Best seen today" would probably be more accurate. And it was my first student sortie... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Let's hope this keeps up for this years FAIP drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishBowl Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 25 minutes ago, YoungnDumb said: Let's hope this keeps up for this years FAIP drop. ...And next year's UPT drops (please). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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