Jump to content
Guest oliwoody

Track Selects and Assignment Nights

Recommended Posts

My perspective is clearly different.  Having witnessed the un-brainwashing of a couple T-38 guys who got banished to the dreaded C-130J (where they loved it and did great things in combat while getting shot at), I can only assume that T-38 guys still scoff at things like KC-x to Kadena or Travis (sweet locations), U-28 and C-130J (where they'll get more real world missions than any other airframes around), or anything that's not an F-22 or F-35.  Got it.  I was bi-polar on my track and drop-nights too.

Cannon certainly isn't appealing, as with the Offutt assignments...but wow, perspective boys.  There's a preponderance of good locations for the heavies, on top of the fact that the pilot shortage makes a heavy-fighter crossflow much more likely right now.

I recall seeing T-38 drops that had a total of 1 ops fighter and dudes being stoked to be FAIPing and not stuck in Minot or Barksdale.

Open the aperture.  If you call it good, it becomes good.  Call it bad, it becomes bad.  It's all perspective.

  • Like 3
  • Upvote 8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, FourFans130 said:

My perspective is clearly different.  Having witnessed the un-brainwashing of a couple T-38 guys who got banished to the dreaded C-130J (where they loved it and did great things in combat while getting shot at), I can only assume that T-38 guys still scoff at things like KC-x to Kadena or Travis (sweet locations), U-28 and C-130J (where they'll get more real world missions than any other airframes around), or anything that's not an F-22 or F-35.  Got it.  I was bi-polar on my track and drop-nights too.

Cannon certainly isn't appealing, as with the Offutt assignments...but wow, perspective boys.  There's a preponderance of good locations for the heavies, on top of the fact that the pilot shortage makes a heavy-fighter crossflow much more likely right now.

I recall seeing T-38 drops that had a total of 1 ops fighter and dudes being stoked to be FAIPing and not stuck in Minot or Barksdale.

Open the aperture.  If you call it good, it becomes good.  Call it bad, it becomes bad.  It's all perspective.

Excellent post

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ENJJPT 09-03

AD ONLY
2 F-15C
1 F-15E
1 T-6 FAIP
1 B-52
1 NSA
1 U-28
5 UAV

On a side note, one international got a Eurofighter.


Quoted for historical context. 5x UAVs for 11X trained officers. Current drops pale in comparison.

Also note that Duck has been causing trouble here since at least 2009!
  • Like 1
  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, FourFans130 said:

My perspective is clearly different.  Having witnessed the un-brainwashing of a couple T-38 guys who got banished to the dreaded C-130J (where they loved it and did great things in combat while getting shot at), I can only assume that T-38 guys still scoff at things like KC-x to Kadena or Travis (sweet locations), U-28 and C-130J (where they'll get more real world missions than any other airframes around), or anything that's not an F-22 or F-35.  Got it.  I was bi-polar on my track and drop-nights too.

Cannon certainly isn't appealing, as with the Offutt assignments...but wow, perspective boys.  There's a preponderance of good locations for the heavies, on top of the fact that the pilot shortage makes a heavy-fighter crossflow much more likely right now.

I recall seeing T-38 drops that had a total of 1 ops fighter and dudes being stoked to be FAIPing and not stuck in Minot or Barksdale.

Open the aperture.  If you call it good, it becomes good.  Call it bad, it becomes bad.  It's all perspective.

So true. I don’t know how many people talked bad about going to Dyess back in the day for the herks. I loved it and the bros I flew with. It was a good bastion of tac flying for a while. But you make what you want of the assignment. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Quoted for historical context. 5x UAVs for 11X trained officers. Current drops pale in comparison.

Also note that Duck has been causing trouble here since at least 2009!

I plan on retiring from this board when I separate. Growing a beard, smoking weed down on the farm.
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yeah well fuck that snowjob. There's nothing "perspective" about PRP and flying the memphis belle in the 21st century. The check ain't bouncing... it's about all I got outta that one. I'd quit before I do that again. I got my AF wings and I own my own airplane, so I got nothing to prove to myself anymore by wearing a bag and practice bleeding for a living.To each their own.

All that said, absolutely, I'm a firm believer of 'it's not what you do, it's who you do it with'. In hindsight (see what I did there lol) I think things are as they should be. I think I would have enjoyed the hell out of physically flying the Viper, but would have probably not meshed well/enjoyed the ancillary/cultural hazy shit that comes with it. Lord knows I've enjoyed shorter debriefs in my life as a result lol. As an older man I've become aware of that nuance, and I'm at peace now. I admit it didn't feel like it 10 years ago. In all honesty, the fact is I got a family and then life got complicated, so the "live to work" impositions of certain airframes in this line of work just became complete non-starters for my current priorities in life.

Which is why I do love my trainer job. It's weak sauce to the youngin's, as it should be, but i'm really happy with it. I wouldn't mind a light attack mission if I had to do it all over again. A-29 or the sort. It's a bit more engaging to me than the bomb truck driver without a pickle button thing. Knowing the AF though, they'd prob fuck that up too.  Guess should have joined the Army ....nah. LOL

 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

Allah always decides

“Allah has the airplane” - scariest moments for a T6 or T38 IP..!

  • Haha 3
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeahhhhh this whitewashing of Cannon . . . not so much a fan.  Just got my parole after 5 years there.

"There are no bad bases": GFY.

"Working with good people on a good mission keeps you sane": That I can agree with.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 4/2/2018 at 9:05 PM, jazzdude said:

Plus, there's no professional trainer pilot track anymore, so they'll get their operational time in eventually. 

You sure about that?

 

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There is absolutely a white jet career track, it may not be “official” but it happens.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
There is absolutely a white jet career track, it may not be “official” but it happens.
Yeah, I'm sure it happens unofficially. I'm trying to make it happen. But in the end I'll still have 2 operational tours. But I can't recat into 11K and be owned by AETC, I'll still have 11M as my core AFSC.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

XL 18-10

T1
KC-135 Souix City Iowa (guard/reserve)
Kc-135 Nebraska (guard/reserve)
KC-10 Travis (guard/reserve) 
C-12 yokota 
KC-135 Kadena 
T-1 FAIP
KC-135 Mildenhall
C-17 McGuire
C-17 Travis
C-21 Ramstein 

T38
F-16 South Dakota (guard/reserve) 
A-10 DM
Nigeria - TBD
T-6 FAIP
AC-130 Cannon
F-16 TBD
C-130 Ramstein
C-130 Dyess
F-22 Tyndall

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Better late than never... CBM 18-10 & 11:

T-38:
2x F-16 WI ANG
F-16 DC ANG
T-6 FAIP CBM
MC-130J Kirtland
EC-130 DM
U-28 Hurlburt
C-130J Yokota
T-38A ADAIR Tyndall
C-130J Little Rock
F-16 TBD
F-15E SJ

T-1:
C-5M Dover
KC-135 Fairchild
KC-135 KS ANG
C-130J Little Rock
UH-60J JSDAF
C-130J Dyess
KC-135 MS ANG 
C-17 Charleston
U-28 Hurlburt
C-17 OH AFRC
C-17 McChord
KC-135 RAF Mildenhall
C-17 WV ANG
T-1 FAIP CBM
C-17 Travis
C-17 Dover
C-130J MS AFRC
CV-22 Hurlburt
RC-135 Offutt
C-2 JASDF
C-21 Ramstein

Edited by Ulysses
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, Ulysses said:

Better late than never... CBM 18-10 & 11:

T-38:
2x F-16 WI ANG
F-16 DC ANG
T-6 FAIP CBM
MC-130J Kirtland
EC-130 DM
U-28 Hurlburt
C-130J Yokota
T-38A ADAIR Tyndall
C-130J Little Rock
F-16 TBD
F-15E SJ

T-1:
C-5M Dover
KC-135 Fairchild
KC-135 KS ANG
C-130J Little Rock
UH-60J JSDAF
C-130J Dyess
KC-135 MS ANG 
C-17 Charleston
U-28 Hurlburt
C-17 OH AFRC
C-17 McChord
KC-135 RAF Mildenhall
C-17 WV ANG
T-1 FAIP CBM
C-17 Travis
C-17 Dover
C-130J MS AFRC
CV-22 Hurlburt
RC-135 Offutt
C-2 JASDF
C-21 Ramstein

They sent only 3 AD to fighters out of T-38’s?  So much for growing out of the pilot crisis. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
35 minutes ago, Runr6730 said:

They sent only 3 AD to fighters out of T-38’s?  So much for growing out of the pilot crisis. 

1 word...absorption...

What IPs are left to teach? We send people to Navy to "grow up" now - as a strategy - yikes!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Runr6730 said:

They sent only 3 AD to fighters out of T-38’s?  So much for growing out of the pilot crisis. 

And those 3 will sit around CBM on BIT for 6-9 months (or more) awaiting IFF/B-course, etc. There's nowhere to send them...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
And those 3 will sit around CBM on BIT for 6-9 months (or more) awaiting IFF/B-course, etc. There's nowhere to send them...

Oh wow, 2009-2011 good to see you again! Everything old is new again!
  • Like 1
  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

KEND 18-11

T-38:
T-6 FAIP
F-15E Seymour Johnson
F-16 Kelly
F-22 Tyndall
E-3 Tinker
C-130J Dyess
F-5 Kenya

T-1:
T-1 FAIP
C-17 Hickam
C-17 x2 Charleston
C-17 McGuire
C-17 McChord
C-5 Travis
KC-135 Kadena
KC-135 x2 Fairchild
C-130J Yakota
LC-130 NY ANG
C-130J Keesler AFRC
MC-12 OKC ANG
C-130H New Castle ANG
 

 

Edited by zachtx
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

DLF 18-11

T-38:

2 x Iraq TBD

Nigeria TBD

2 x F-16 TBD

A-10 DM

U-28 Hurlburt

B-52 Barksdale

B-1 Dyess

 

T-1:

T-1 FAIP

T-6 FAIP

4 x KC-135 (Kadena, Fairchild, Eilson ANG, March AFRC)

3 x C-17 (McGuire, Dover, Charleston)

2 x C-5 (Dover, Travis AFRC)

B-52 Barksdale

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

CBM 18-11 (T-1 only)

C-17 Hickam
C-17 Dover
2x C-17 McChord
C-17 Charleston
C-17 Travis
C-17 McGuire
2x C-130J Dyess
C-130J Ramstein
KC-135 Mildenhall
2x KC-135 Fairchild
T-6 FAIP
C-17 Wright-Patt AFRC
C-130H IL ANG
C-130H Puerto Rico ANG
KC-135R Nebraska ANG
WC-130J Keesler AFRC
KC-135R New Hampshire ANG
KC-135R Grissom AFRC
 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Disco_Nav963 said:

The white buffalo T-1 to BUFFs reappears...

I heard it was a join-spouse assignment. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



×