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1 hour ago, BFM this said:

And last but not least, if only there were somewhere to park IFF grads for two to three years while the rest of the pipeline gets up to speed.  If only...

 

Let's not, already spent 5 years in Enid, I don't think I could take 3 more.

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3 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

1 fighter per drop? Lol. Get ed big blue. Get ed. 

 

But please bitch more about your fighter pilot shortage 

I doubt it reverts back to low fighter drops. As far as I'm aware, only 16s are backed up.

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That may be but how long until the others are backed up?  If they simply just move all the students to different air frames it's just spreading the problem not making it any better.

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38 minutes ago, YoungnDumb said:

Let's not, already spent 5 years in Enid, I don't think I could take 3 more.

Agreed.

But you wouldn't be an IFF grad to stay in sunny Playa del Enid.

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5 hours ago, FishBowl said:

I drop next month and we were pretty much told it was for this exact reason. The b-courses are backed up with not enough manning to support the surge of fighter drops. It’s almost like basic math could have told them this would happen. I’ve been in long enough to experience this “full-on or full-off” knee-jerk reaction from the AF a few times. 

Same thing happened to us circa 2011; no fighters because B-course is backed up.  Glad to know we learn from our mistakes...

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35 minutes ago, dream big said:

Same thing happened to us circa 2011; no fighters because B-course is backed up.  Glad to know we learn from our mistakes...

Also to “us” in 08/09. Z flight!

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10 hours ago, Seriously said:

Some squadrons are better than others, but I wouldn't say that mindset is near death though. 

Compared to 5-6 years ago it is.  At least they're doing flow throughs now and have pretty much shit canned slide/scram.  But you're right, as in any community, it can depend on the squadron.  I still give the hornet guys props for driving the community in the right direction.

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EN 18-01 drops tomorrow and had to put the growler on their dreamsheets. Today they were called in by the SNR and told to not expect great things at their drop. They had to reorganize their dreamsheets with emphasis on non-fighter options. 

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Hopefully nobody in that class learns the brutal lesson of "I wish I would've tried a little harder" during the great fighter giveaway of 2017...

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22 hours ago, Sparkle said:

EN 18-01 drops tomorrow and had to put the growler on their dreamsheets. Today they were called in by the SNR and told to not expect great things at their drop. They had to reorganize their dreamsheets with emphasis on non-fighter options. 

We had a Commander's Call today and the 71 OG spoke briefly on the T-38 assignments topic. He said the AF had to cut 40 F-16 slots. It wasn't specifically clarified but I presume that was for FY18 classes. He said it was due to the F-16 training units at Holloman not coming online as fast as the AF expected. With the reduced F-16 drops future T-38 classes could expect to see more drops from AFSOC and the ISR communities. U-28s, EC-130s, RC-135s, MC-130s, and CV-22s were specifically mentioned.

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KCBM 18-01

T-38s

F-15J JASDF

2x F-15C

F-15E

T-6 FAIP

C-146

B-52

RC-135

T-1s

KC-135 Kansas ANG

2x KC-135 Penn ANG

KC-135 Scott

KC-135 Fairchild

KC-135 Seymour Johnson

C-130H GA ANG

C-5 Kelly Field AFRC

C-17 Charleston AFRC

2x KC-10 McGuire

C-130J Yokota

C-130J Little Rock

EC-130 Davis Monthan

E-3 Tinker

T-6 FAIP

T-1 FAIP

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EN 18-01

Active
F-22 x 1 
F-35 x 1 
F-15C x 1 
F-15E x 2 
A-10 x 1 
B-52 x 2
C-146 x 2 
RC-135 x 1 
E-8 x 1 

Guard/Reserve 
F-16 x 1

Foreign 
Danish F-16 x 2
German Tornado x 1
German T-38 FAIP x 2
German Eurofighter x 1
Belgian F-16 x 1
Belgian NH-90 x 1

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Thank God the Fighter Pilot shortage is over.

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KEND 17-17

AD T-1s:
C-17 (x2) McChord
KC-10 Travis
AC-130J Hurlburt
RC-135 Offut
E-8 Robbins
C-130J Yakota
CV-22 Cannon
U-28 Cannon
 

I think I missed 1 or 2, but there was a decent number of Guard/Reserve guys: C-17, 2x C-130H, a tanker or two.

 

No FAIPs at Vance.

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Where is the bottleneck? IFF or FTU for the fighters or is this driven by a need for them in other places?

Shocker they couldn't stand up Holloman F-16 capacity with all the 7 day opts.

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13 hours ago, Brick said:

KCBM 18-01

KC-135 Scott

This guy used to be my troop at Altus.  He was a prior KC-135 Boom, put on MSgt at 10-years, Test Boom at Edwards before even going to OTS.  One of the smartest aviators I've ever known.  Glad to see he got his wish to go back to tankers.  He's a great dude!

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26 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said:

50% fighters at ENJJPT is still a far cry from the ‘08-‘10 drops.

True statement, my class (in '11) had less than a third.  The pendulum will continue to swing as it always has.

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Call me an @ss, but I'm so glad the entitled Fighter era is coming to a close (at least for now). Let the butt hurting commence. 

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Call me an @ss, but I'm so glad the entitled Fighter era is coming to a close (at least for now). Let the butt hurting commence. 

Agreed. I wish they could plan further than 3 months out too.

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Don't recall the full list but XL 18-01 drops:

38s:

1 x B52

1 x F22

1 x F16 (Guard)

1 x T6 Faip

1 x EC 130

1 x F15E

1 x U28

 

T1s:

2 x C17

1 x T1 FAIP

1 x E3

1 x U28

2 x KC135 (Guard) 

1 x C130

Someone else will have to fill in the rest.

Edited by LiquidSky
Corrected/updated drops based off replies.

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