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18 hours ago, Vito said:

 Quick question, and please refrain from the " Jersey jokes". I notice that over the past few years there are very few McGuire C-17 assignments dropped.  I know other bases have more airframes, but I'm just curious why.

You've got to look into that Situation ASAP ūüėé

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CBM 17-15 Drop

T-38

F22 

T6

F16 NJ Guard 

2x International F15 and Typhoon

T-1 AD

KC135 McConnell

U28 Cannon

Mc130 Cannon

C130 Little Rock

C130 Yokota

C5 Travis

2x Kc10 McGuire & Travis  

C17 Charleston

T6 

UH-60 International

T1 Guard and Reserve

C130 Maxwell

Kc135 Niagra Falls, Pittsburg, Topeka

C17 Jackson

 

 

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KEND 17-15

L-159 Iraq
T-6 Iraq
Eurofighter Saudi Arabia
F-16 Luke
B-52 Barksdale
MC-130J Kadena
KC-10 McGuire
KC-10 (x2) Travis
C-130H (x2) ANG (Minneapolis-St. Paul)
U-28 Cannon
T-1 FAIP
C-130J Little Rock
F-15C Kingsley Field
B-1B Dyess
T-38 Aggressor Tyndall
F-15E Seymour-Johnson
KC-135 MacDill
KC-135 Fairchild
T-6 FAIP
CV-22 Hurlburt Field 

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1 hour ago, YoungnDumb said:

Looks like the "everyone gets a fighter" thing is winding down...maybe the AF realized you can't just throw bodies at the pipeline and expect it to work smoothly?

Give it about 3 years and they will try it again.

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Word on the street is that classes who just track selected (so within the last six weeks or so, give or take) are being told that they can expect the bomber drops from T-1s that were talked about so extensively a few months ago. Maybe that's just the rumor mill, or maybe it's taken this long to get the ball rolling on that idea.

As for the reduced fighter drops, at least at CBM a lot of that lately is due to T-38 guys washing into the next class. That's been happening somewhat erratically as I understand it, so some classes' 38 drops look smaller since they might've lost some of their own guys but didn't gain any from the previous class.

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1 hour ago, Ulysses said:

Word on the street is that classes who just track selected (so within the last six weeks or so, give or take) are being told that they can expect the bomber drops from T-1s that were talked about so extensively a few months ago. Maybe that's just the rumor mill, or maybe it's taken this long to get the ball rolling on that idea.

As for the reduced fighter drops, at least at CBM a lot of that lately is due to T-38 guys washing into the next class. That's been happening somewhat erratically as I understand it, so some classes' 38 drops look smaller since they might've lost some of their own guys but didn't gain any from the previous class.

Reference my earlier post about T-1's and bombers.  It's been a rumor since I was a student, hell we even had an O-5 type say it was happening a year ago.

Fair enough on CBM bubbas, but if you look at Vance as well instead of 9 fighters its more like 4 or so with others going to bombers or other places.

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BL: if you hear a rumor that bombers are going to start dropping to Tones, believe it when you see it.

If you hear a rumor that RPAs are going to start dropping again.  Be afraid.  Be very afraid.

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1 hour ago, BFM this said:

BL: if you hear a rumor that bombers are going to start dropping to Tones, believe it when you see it.

If you hear a rumor that RPAs are going to start dropping again.  Be afraid.  Be very afraid.

It will be another 3-5 years before that happens again. RPA pipeline is at full capacity, and "numbers" are actually looking better. Every Alpha tour bro in my unit has a projected returned manned date in the next year-year n half. However, the Air Force is projecting a crazy high rate (50% +)  of the initial couple groups of the 18x ers to stay in as their 6 commitment comes up, unfortuly the rates are probably going to be closer to 5-10% So we will be right to square one when all the 18x instructors/evaluators bail in late 2018/2019

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On 8/8/2017 at 8:18 PM, Vimix22 said:

Is getting T-6 FAIP'd from T-38s a normal thing? Seems like they would want all T-38 grads to go straight to the CAF. 

Were you born under a rock? Reference pages 1-102 of this thread. T-37/T-6 FAIPs from T-38s has been going on since the beginning of time. 

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CAFB 18-08 track select:

19x T-1 (approximately)
8x T-38 (one Japanese)
2x TH-1

And two Afghan A-29 dudes who are a few rides behind tracking their second round of T-6 training soon

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T-38 students were told today to expect more bombers, AFSOC, Recon in FY18 drops. Great Viper Giveaway has concluded.

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T-38 students were told today to expect more bombers, AFSOC, Recon in FY18 drops. Great Viper Giveaway has concluded.

Oh hey! 2009 to 2012 there you are again!

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It's almost like AFPC learned that if you stop sending people to a community for a while they start having a vacuum and need people again...that being said I give it another year or so before we swing back again.

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2 minutes ago, YoungnDumb said:

It's almost like AFPC learned that if you stop sending people to a community for a while they start having a vacuum and need people again...that being said I give it another year or so before we swing back again.

I know dudes that graduated in Aug that are waiting until May for Holloman B-course. 

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3 hours ago, FishBowl said:

I know dudes that graduated in Aug that are waiting until May for Holloman B-course. 

Same thing was happening in 2010.

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57 minutes ago, Seriously said:

Same thing was happening in 2010.

Is this an active duty specific thing?  Do national guard get pushed through faster?

I ask because this was the case at Army IERW.  You would have guys waiting for months for their advanced course while the guard guys were turned around in a couple weeks.

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Guard, Reserves and Internationals purchase a slot for their folks in each training course.  These spots are pre-programmed by AETC so their people make it through the pipeline with minimal downtime between courses.  This saves a lot of $ with man-days, per diem and moving costs while providing the units with a predictable flow of personnel.

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1 minute ago, JJF0012 said:

Heard a rumor that t-38 upt studs might be given an option to track towards f-18s since B courses are backed up. Any validity to that?

I haven’t heard anything about that at Vance, but I’d be all over it if it did become an option. 

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2 minutes ago, JJF0012 said:

Heard a rumor that t-38 upt studs might be given an option to track towards f-18s since B courses are backed up. Any validity to that?

Hornets? This is a joke, right? Are they going to cross commission into the Navy/USMC too?

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