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XL 15-14

T-38s

B-52

F-15E

F-16

T-6 FAIP

F-15J x 2 (Japan)

Singapore Fighter

 

T-1s

C-5 Travis AFRC

C-17x3 (Hickam, McChord, Dover)

C-21 Scott

C-130J Ramstein

C-130H MN AFRC

HC-130J x 2 (moody, Davis-monthan)

KC-135 Mildenhall

KC-135 Milwaukee ANG

MQ-9 x 2 creech

T-6 FAIP

RC-135 Offutt

 

 

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Are the Singapore pilots going to dual-qual in the F-15 and F-16? What does the slash mean?

Not dual qual...they don't know what they get yet. When they get back home they go through more training and go to either the 15 or 16

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why did their countries send them through T-1s?  Seems a little odd.

The BAF Vice Chief of Staff is a huge proponent of UPT. A few yrs ago, I escorted him and his staff out to Randolph, Laughlin, and Little Rock to see first hand how we train. He was a big fan before, but even more so after the trip. And the bulk of their helos fall under the AF.

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The BAF Vice Chief of Staff is a huge proponent of UPT. A few yrs ago, I escorted him and his staff out to Randolph, Laughlin, and Little Rock to see first hand how we train. He was a big fan before, but even more so after the trip. And the bulk of their helos fall under the AF.

ok, so then why don't they train their helo pilots like the USAF trains?  AKA fixed wing then Rucker?

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ok, so then why don't they train their helo pilots like the USAF trains?  AKA fixed wing then Rucker?

Good question and I don't have an answer for it. My guess is that it comes down to money. They didn't get many UPT slots-I believe that may be 3rd one I have heard of. I've been out of that game for a little bit now, so things may have changed as well.

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ok, so then why don't they train their helo pilots like the USAF trains?  AKA fixed wing then Rucker?

The only reason the AF started making their rotor wing pilots in the early 90's go through fixed wing phase 2 was to get higher numbers going through Tweets, to make the case for more T-6's.  I think Hacker or someone discussed this years ago.  It's actually silly to make rotor wing pilots spend the first 5-6 months in T-6's, to then learn a completely different kind of flying for the remaining phase 3.  

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Then you agree it's silly for another country to send their helo pilots through a year of fixed wing first.

 

 

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Of course, but it's their slot (and I'm pretty sure their money), so they can send whoever they want.  

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The Bulgarian student who got MI-17s is an Aviation Leadership Program student. The USAF asks and pays for countries to send students for pilot training. The ALP students go through an extended T-6 phase, but no advanced phase. It wasn't a waste for Bulgaria because it cost nothing to get a USAF trained product.

See further:

http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a3_5/publication/afi16-108/afi16-108.pdf

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The only reason the AF started making their rotor wing pilots in the early 90's go through fixed wing phase 2 was to get higher numbers going through Tweets, to make the case for more T-6's.  I think Hacker or someone discussed this years ago.  It's actually silly to make rotor wing pilots spend the first 5-6 months in T-6's, to then learn a completely different kind of flying for the remaining phase 3.  

I have to agree. The saving grace is those dudes who develop the desire to live the helo low life during phase 2, and I speak from experience. A corrective action would be to add additional low level sorties to the phase 2 syllabus, 2 is not enough. It is appropriate considering the amount of airframes that fly low operationally. 

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What is the follow on for AT-38s? Also does anyone know what class is supposed to be dropping around the end of October at the other bases? I've heard a rumor that with the whole T-6 grounding shenanigans that occurred that the other bases washed back the classes that were suppose to drop in October except for Vance. Thanks for the help.

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15-15 CBM

T38

Saudi 

A10 Davis Monthan AFB

F15E Seymour Johnson AFB

T6 FAIP CBM

 

T1

KC135 Meridian MS ANG

KC135 Seymour Johnson NC ANG

KC135 Eielson AK ANG x 2

KC135 March AFB AFRC

KC135 MD ANG

KC135 RAF Mildenhall

KC135 Fairchild AFB

E8 Robbins AFB

C17 Travis AFB

RC135 Offutt AFB

C130J Ramstein 

T1 FAIP CBM

T6 FAIP CBM

MQ9 Cannon AFB x 2

AC130W Cannon AFB

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