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9 hours ago, Guardian said:

 


Because you assume he knows for sure that he isn’t eligible. Even when he tells you straight up he doesn’t know. How is that fraud? People like you who make all encompassing assumptions of what’s wrong with the process are part of what’s wrong with the AF. Keep it up. You’ll go far by today’s general standards.

 

Bahahaha! 

I just saw this. I chose to comment on the thread because I am one of the relatively few people on here who has actually been nonselected to major (4 times!) and met a selective continuation board. So no, I'm not going far in today's Air Force. But never pass up an opportunity to use the "you're what's wrong with the Air Force" line. Its a pretty reliable way to get up voted. 

Also, your "people like you who make all encompassing assumptions" comment made me think of Star Wars, so thanks for that. 

 

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I don’t get it... 

I think that’s a good thing. I don’t either.

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2 hours ago, Broke said:

Bahahaha! 

I just saw this. I chose to comment on the thread because I am one of the relatively few people on here who has actually been nonselected to major (4 times!) and met a selective continuation board. So no, I'm not going far in today's Air Force. But never pass up an opportunity to use the "you're what's wrong with the Air Force" line. Its a pretty reliable way to get up voted. 

Also, your "people like you who make all encompassing assumptions" comment made me think of Star Wars, so thanks for that. 

 

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I'm cyber...you're a fucking dork.

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Can I change the subject? The next time we all hang out, I'll take the grenade for the team since I'm a great wingman.

I was taught here from you guys knowledge from way back when the board usually gets it right. I had someone walk into my Wing Snacko office (next to the soft drink machine) to tell me the Gp Exec told this individual they got promoted. 

Under my breath, I said to myself the AF is fuc.d! A bunch of toxic officers and Execs will be running the AF into the ground soon enough. I guess not being a Flt/CC doesn't matter anymore either. Even if you are the squadron piss monitor you will be promoted. Or how about we play spin the rank for the next board to determine who gets promoted?

Rant complete.

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I'm cyber...you're a ing dork.

You must be cyber. I can’t cuss in this forum without being censored. I’m in awe.

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Did they post the stats yet?

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On 6/19/2018 at 1:29 PM, Guardian said:

I say we meet for Duck’s separation party and let a super drinkoff tournament ensue until no one remembers who won and we have a good time.

Let us know the day and time of said party.  I probably won't be there but there's a $50-spot on the GoFundMe for it.  Crowdsource it if that's a more palatable term.  Either way, I'd like to contribute.

Promotion parties in my Guard unit are seemingly non-existent so I'm all for a de-promotion party.

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Can anyone confirm the PRF light is being turned back on for the next majors board? I'm talking P0418D I believe. My Wing is telling us to write them. The PRF cookie monster returns.

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30 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Can anyone confirm the PRF light is being turned back on for the next majors board? I'm talking P0418D I believe. My Wing is telling us to write them. The PRF cookie monster returns.

Hard to say. Wings told the last group to write them as well.

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30 minutes ago, pawnman said:

Hard to say. Wings told the last group to write them as well.

I say, have them written!  Why pass up an opportunity to churn out more queep as an exercise in true AF leadership.  I have found that squadron/group/wing execs and CSS personnel are far too focused on things like flying, personal lives, and spending time with their families.  They need the PRF practice.

Then, after the PRFs are completed by every management level, burn them to the ground. Maybe we should instead just trust the wing commanders.  PRFs are unnecessary waste, and our top managers can use some bullets saying they saved man hours, even though said man hours have already been spent on the burned PRFs.  Screw it. Engineer the bullets for our time-saving overlords anyway and earn them another star!

Then, the board can completely disregard the wing commanders. Damn. Those PRFs would have been useful since we now have to sift through thousands of records because we have decided that a faceless board of bureaucrats is a vastly better entity to judge an officer than a silly local commander.  In any case, since we burned the PRFs and don’t trust commanders, we have to review the records for 6-9 stimulating months.  But hey - extra queep for management!  Im convinced this practice queep makes us a more lethal Air Force. Everyone wins!

 

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37 minutes ago, pawnman said:

Hard to say. Wings told the last group to write them as well.

The order to not write PRFs on the last board came after all the PRFs were at the group level.

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PRFs should have four lines for the senior rater to fill out.

1.  This candidate meets all eligibility requirements for promotion.  YES/NO  (no requires mandatory comment)

2.  I have reviewed this candidates record and found no derogatory information.  YES/NO (no is mandatory comment)

3.  Strat.  My #______/________ for this board.

4.  DP/P/DNP

Everything else the PRF communicates is already captured in the promotion record.

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8 hours ago, HU&W said:

3.  Strat.  My #______/________ for this board.

Whoa, but is it of AFSC, FGO's/CGO's, ## year group, (insert other meaningless denominator)

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9 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Whoa, but is it of AFSC, FGO's/CGO's, ## year group, (insert other meaningless denominator)

Eligibles 

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Can someone explain the logic behind forcing someone to submit a PRF knowing damn well they plan on retiring or separating? I keep getting asked are you ready for retirement? I respond, "Why yes, yes I am." It's a waste of peoples time to submit a PRF for Lt Col when you obviously don't care about promotion. If they took away the ACSC via correspondence requirement, I might consider the possibility. I thought about writing a letter like Duck did to the promotion board, but with some flare added. 

Promotion Board,

"I feel bullied by my Wing and Group CCs because of having to write a mandatory PRF when I have other plans with my life. If officers don't want to be O-5s, just look in a mirror as to the reason why."

In today's AF, your feelings and being bullied matters. LoL

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Can someone explain the logic behind forcing someone to submit a PRF knowing damn well they plan on retiring or separating? I keep getting asked are you ready for retirement? I respond, "Why yes, yes I am." It's a waste of peoples time to submit a PRF for Lt Col when you obviously don't care about promotion. If they took away the ACSC via correspondence requirement, I might consider the possibility. I thought about writing a letter like Duck did to the promotion board, but with some flare added. 

Promotion Board,

"I feel bullied by my Wing and Group CCs because of having to write a mandatory PRF when I have other plans with my life. If officers don't want to be O-5s, just look in a mirror as to the reason why."

In today's AF, your feelings and being bullied matters. LoL

If I were your CC, I'd tell you to simply not do it. What's the worst they could do to you? You're right, it makes no sense and you shouldn't waste your time. In your shoes, I would ignore it. You shouldn't be writing your own PRF anyway, so just call them on it!

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Can someone explain the logic behind forcing someone to submit a PRF knowing damn well they plan on retiring or separating? I keep getting asked are you ready for retirement? I respond, "Why yes, yes I am." It's a waste of peoples time to submit a PRF for Lt Col when you obviously don't care about promotion. If they took away the ACSC via correspondence requirement, I might consider the possibility. I thought about writing a letter like Duck did to the promotion board, but with some flare added. 
Promotion Board,
"I feel bullied by my Wing and Group CCs because of having to write a mandatory PRF when I have other plans with my life. If officers don't want to be O-5s, just look in a mirror as to the reason why."
In today's AF, your feelings and being bullied matters. LoL


I know with an approved Date of Sep and still meeting promo board timing, the Wg submitted a blank PRF with no recommendation. This was 3 yrs ago though, not sure how it would work in the sweet new system.

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