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So.....anybody know when Congress is going to approve the 08YG promotion list so we can start pinning on?  First group's supposed to start pinning 1 October, and as of today MyPers still says "awaiting congressional approval"....

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10 hours ago, Duck said:

That’s exactly what I was thinking. It seems to me to be just another rogue GS-6 at AETC HQ.

I wouldn't call the person a rogue...this is a new policy that old procedures haven't caught up with.  GS-6s follow the procedures they're given.  I wouldn't expect one to just look at a policy memo (even from the CSAF) and then selectively interpret how to implement it.  Someone owes that person better guidance and instruction.  In any case, your SR and MLR will have a more authoritative take on implementation.

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3 hours ago, 08Dawg said:

Any idea what further wickets it has to go through and how much longer it will take?

Just a voice vote...I’d guess this week—perhaps today or tomorrow—but probably not later than next week since the senate goes out of session for Columbus Day week.

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On 9/27/2017 at 9:55 AM, Weezer said:

I wouldn't call the person a rogue...this is a new policy that old procedures haven't caught up with.  GS-6s follow the procedures they're given.  I wouldn't expect one to just look at a policy memo (even from the CSAF) and then selectively interpret how to implement it.  Someone owes that person better guidance and instruction.  In any case, your SR and MLR will have a more authoritative take on implementation.

Part of the problem is commanders conditioned to take the word of GS-6s just because they work at the MAJCOM.  8th AF/CC and AFGSC/CC were very clear last time they were here trying to sort out the rated officer retention problem: the only person who can tell a commander no is a higher level commander.  Not a GS-6, not a functional at the MAJCOM.  The only person who can tell your WG/CC that they can't give you a DNP is the NAF or MAJCOM commander.

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On 9/27/2017 at 2:44 PM, VFR800 said:

Just a voice vote...I’d guess this week—perhaps today or tomorrow—but probably not later than next week since the senate goes out of session for Columbus Day week.

Reported confirmed this morning.

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3 hours ago, pawnman said:

Part of the problem is commanders conditioned to take the word of GS-6s just because they work at the MAJCOM.  8th AF/CC and AFGSC/CC were very clear last time they were here trying to sort out the rated officer retention problem: the only person who can tell a commander no is a higher level commander.  Not a GS-6, not a functional at the MAJCOM.  The only person who can tell your WG/CC that they can't give you a DNP is the NAF or MAJCOM commander.

Absolutely.  But the GS-6 didn't tell the commander no...he/she told some random person on the phone the current interpretation of current policy as they had been directed.

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Does AFPC even hire GS-6s? I assumed everyone there was a GS-15 retired O-5/O-6.... #sarcasm

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I'm an ANG O-3 with an effective date to promote to O-4 of 1 October...today (via ROPMA board).  My MPS has not yet received the federal order and says that I cannot pin on until it's received. Last week I submitted a myPers ticket asking for my order. The response was to ask my MPS for it ... and that "you don't need a promotion order for a promotion ceremony."  I can't find that in an ANGI/AFI anywhere, nor do I know why it's taking so long to receive the order. Anyone care to take a stab at why and how one wouldn't need the order to pin on...and why it would be taking longer than the prescribed "NLT 2 weeks prior to effective date"?

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Maybe the same reason why there’s not AT days loaded in the system yet for the new FY? Or why this year’s ROPMA results were delayed 3 weeks longer than normal?

Seems like things at NGB and DC in general aren’t firing in all cylinders, which honestly is not surprising...

Good luck...hopefully you at least get your $$ CAO 1 Oct!

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