Spoo Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 2/3/2017 at 2:10 PM, bennynova said: I have. Pm me your email and I'll send you mine as an example if u like I included things in the past 6 months that weren't reflected in my record yet. Main thing is dont whine or make excuses in the letter Who told you this was a good idea? Is it the same person that told you it's a good idea to congratulate promotion selectees before the public release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 10 hours ago, Spoo said: Who told you this was a good idea? Is it the same person that told you it's a good idea to congratulate promotion selectees before the public release? Nope, two different guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 discussion question: which strat would you rather have on your PRF going into the MAJ to LtCol board? #1/14 Majs. or #1/14 FGOs and does the answer change if you are going into the LtCol to Col board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftsman Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 FGO's it shows you are better than Lt.. Col's. in essences it shows a bigger group. They might all be Mai's but the board will see fgo's and it will stick that there were lt cols in that group. Sent from my iPad using Baseops Network Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, bennynova said: discussion question: which strat would you rather have on your PRF going into the MAJ to LtCol board? #1/14 Majs. or #1/14 FGOs and does the answer change if you are going into the LtCol to Col board? Always take the broader category when able. #1/xx FGO is better than #1/xx Maj or LtCol, even if xx is the same number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 32 minutes ago, pawnman said: Always take the broader category when able. #1/xx FGO is better than #1/xx Maj or LtCol, even if xx is the same number. I think 1/15 lt cols is better than a "more broad" 1/19 FGOs, but maybe that's just me I have heard that a strat in your rank is the best you can get.... even a major strat over an FGO strat for instance. FGO strats are given more to lt col (s) who don't need major strats and aren't really in the mix for lt col strats yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFNZ Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, bennynova said: I think 1/15 lt cols is better than a "more broad" 1/19 FGOs, but maybe that's just me I have heard that a strat in your rank is the best you can get.... even a major strat over an FGO strat for instance. FGO strats are given more to lt col (s) who don't need major strats and aren't really in the mix for lt col strats yet Well that's because a 1/15 Lt Col strat doesn't include a lower rank, whereas 1/19 FGOs does. So it's not just you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, bennynova said: I think 1/15 lt cols is better than a "more broad" 1/19 FGOs, but maybe that's just me I have heard that a strat in your rank is the best you can get.... even a major strat over an FGO strat for instance. FGO strats are given more to lt col (s) who don't need major strats and aren't really in the mix for lt col strats yet I may be stretching, but AFI 36-2406, paragraph 3.16.2.5.5.1 almost implies a hierarchy of strats in its sequence, which seems to support your thought... 3.16.2.5.5.1. Stratification based on peer comparisons: Peers (#1/10 Majors or #1/5 Captains); Peer Group (#1/10 FGOs or #1/10 CGOs); Duty Positions (#1/7 Action Officers, #1/7 Sq/CCs); Aggregate Groups (#1/50 officers in my Group; #1 of my 50 officers; #1 of 50 majors in my 20 years of service); Additional Qualifiers (#1/4 Force Support CGOs; Best Major in my 32 years); Recognition Level (Wing CGO/yr, #1/200). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFNZ Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 But let's be honest, the Maj in question will be flying for Delta in 2 years so who the fuck cares? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Ho Lee Fuk said: If you hold the low rank in the group (i.e. Lt in the CGO group, Maj in the FGO group), the strat is stronger if it's against the group because, as stated, it implies that you are outperforming officers of a higher rank. The opposite is true if you hold the higher rank. If you're a Lt Col, a Lt Col strat is generally stronger than an FGO strat .....you're supposed to be outperforming Majors, so using a FGO strat for a Lt Col can give the impression that the rater is trying to make the strat look better by using a larger denominator. Obviously there are exceptions.....if your rater rates on 10 Majs and you, the Lt Col, the only way he can strat you is in relation to FGOs. The best strat for a Major is both strats. A push line that reads "#1/15 Majs; #2/21 FGOs," is a legal, albeit roundabout way, to strat a Major against Lt Col's. Board members know to read that line as "This guy is the best Major in the squadron, AND he's outperforming 5 out of the 6 Lt Col's in the squadron." They will probably assume the Lt Col he's ranked behind is the DO if it's not explicitly stated, which it can be. This. Depending on where this strat is being placed (PRF or OPR), it could also be beneficial for the rater (or SR in the case of a PRF) to be even more blunt versus making the board "figure it out". I've seen it worded this way before: "1/X FGOs, ahead of X Lt Cols...." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream big Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 10 hours ago, BADFNZ said: But let's be honest, the Maj in question will be flying for Delta in 2 years so who the cares? Funniest response I've seen here in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Nerds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaarman Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Question: As a 1x passed over Captain, if they offer me Continuation, and I turn it down, IVSP is not paid out. If they don't offer me Continuation, IVSP is paid out. If they don't offer me Continuation, and I request an earlier DOS then the notification + 6 Months, is IVSP still paid out? There's a quip in the continuation reg that talks about it, but it would not apply to me because I never accepted Continuation right? 36-3207: 3.4. Officers Who Aren't Selected for Promotion. The DOS for officers not selected for promotion for the sec-ond time to the grade of captain, major, or lieutenant colonel normally falls no later than the last day of the 6th calendar month after the month in which the report of the board that considered them is approved. NOTE: This applies to officers twice not selected for promotion and selected for, but who decline, continuation on active duty. 3.4.1. The officers may request an earlier DOS once they know they weren't selected. Says below for already continued officers: 7.17. Terms For Involuntary Separation of Selectively Continued Officers. Consider officers for further continuation when continuation ends before an officer enters the retirement sanctuary or becomes eligible to retire. If an officer is not selected for further continuation, they will have at least 6 months notice before involuntary separation or discharge. Involuntarily separate officers who decline further continuation on the expiration of their current contract. If the officers request an earlier date of separation and receive approval under AFI 36-3207, Administrative Separation of Commissioned Officers, then the separation is voluntary and the officer does not receive separation pay. Officers identified for, or serving in a continued status, are subject to separation under other applicable laws and policies. Gracias! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 While I think you are right on all accounts, it doesn't matter you will either be promoted or you won't be (at which point you will be continued) they arent going to pay to pay you to leave at this point. So take the 20 year retirement as a captain as a blessing in disguise and go enjoy yourself and your family if you have one. Or get out and do something better. But you aren't getting sep pay IMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromedome Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/3/2017 at 6:06 AM, BashiChuni said: Nerds YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Go to the ANG and get promoted, don't stick around to 20 as a captain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Ack, need some BO wisdom fast. If you are in a re-qual program for your MWS, who writes your PRF? Gaining or losing unit? School house?Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I'm throwing darts due to an OPR experience, if you haven't checked into new unit, the old one. You might get hosed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFNZ Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, Duck said: Ack, need some BO wisdom fast. If you are in a re-qual program for your MWS, who writes your PRF? Gaining or losing unit? School house? Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Depends who owns you on the accounting date. Look it up on myPers for your board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoo Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Assuming you are TDY enroute or performing duties at the school house while assigned to gaining/losing unit, it will be gaining/losing unit who will write your PRF and it will depend on the accounting date ^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Thanks guys. I appreciate the knowledge!Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just to confirm. Twice passed over trumps PCS ADSC correct?Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaarman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Oh yeahhhh 36-2501: 3.10. Effects of Nonselection for Promotion. Generally, officers not selected for promotion to captain through lieutenant colonel for the second time are separated in accordance with AFI 36- 3207, Separating Commissioned Officers, unless they: 3.10.1. Are retirement eligible or within 2 years of qualifying for retirement (i.e., in the sanctuary) as of the mandatory date of separation (DOS) established for officers twice nonselected for promotion by that board. 3.10.2. Are selected for continuation. 3.10.3. Have an earlier established DOS. 36-3207 3.4. Officers Who Aren't Selected for Promotion. The DOS for officers not selected for promotion for the sec-ond time to the grade of captain, major, or lieutenant colonel normally falls no later than the last day of the 6th calendar month after the month in which the report of the board that considered them is approved. NOTE: This applies to officers twice not selected for promotion and selected for, but who decline, continuation on active duty. 3.4.1. The officers may request an earlier DOS once they know they weren't selected. 3.4.2. The MPF discharges regular officers and releases reserve officers from active duty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 most twice passed over will be selectively continued at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 most twice passed over will be selectively continued at this pointRight, but you can decline continuation, which in turn releases you from any remaining ADSCs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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