pawnman Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 13 hours ago, Duck said: Any chance that this pushes to the right far enough that the new promotion rules kick in? I have a couple friends who are once passed over Majors on the bonus ADSC looking to bail. Since the new NDAA gets rid of up or out that would screw them big time. Unpopular opinion... But if you took the bonus and the accompanying ADSC, you knew what you were signing up for. I'd personally be all for forcing folks with an ADSC for the bonus to serve it the remainder, regardless of promotion results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 14 hours ago, Duck said: Any chance that this pushes to the right far enough that the new promotion rules kick in? I have a couple friends who are once passed over Majors on the bonus ADSC looking to bail. Since the new NDAA gets rid of up or out that would screw them big time. What are you talking about?  What are the new promotion rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 My understanding is that the new NDAA mostly handed over the rules to the DoD versus them being in Federal code. So yes there is no law now requiring up or out but the my understanding is that the DoD has to draft new guidance and they could choose to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 https://www.military.com/militaryadvantage/2018/08/15/what-hidden-deep-2019-defense-bill-affects-you.htmlI just read this article that stated up or out is basically repealed and that it would be up to the Service Secretaries. Just wondering if anyone had heard anything. I know several O-4 bonus or late-rate guys with airline jobs lined up expecting the second Passover and release to happen in the next 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDALPHA Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Duck said: https://www.military.com/militaryadvantage/2018/08/15/what-hidden-deep-2019-defense-bill-affects-you.html I just read this article that stated up or out is basically repealed and that it would be up to the Service Secretaries. Just wondering if anyone had heard anything. I know several O-4 bonus or late-rate guys with airline jobs lined up expecting the second Passover and release to happen in the next 2 months. Fixed. The. Glitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerstud Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Along the lines of up or out going away, is anyone hearing anything about why this board is at the CJCS? Is it like the last Majors board where they are promoting a bunch of APZ guys. One the upside, at least I can laugh that I will be gettting my notification for the next board and my results from this board the same week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 19 hours ago, pawnman said: Unpopular opinion... But if you took the bonus and the accompanying ADSC, you knew what you were signing up for. I'd personally be all for forcing folks with an ADSC for the bonus to serve it the remainder, regardless of promotion results. This is more complicated then simply retaining officers after two failures to promote. Congressional end strength numbers need to be considered; which means retaining passed over FGOs would have a trickle down effect, prolonging the years spent as a captain until a vacancy at the O-4 level appears.  Given AFPCs  current track record at planning for end strength I am highly skeptical that they would get this right on the first try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkswin11 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Ash said: This is more complicated then simply retaining officers after two failures to promote. Congressional end strength numbers need to be considered; which means retaining passed over FGOs would have a trickle down effect, prolonging the years spent as a captain until a vacancy at the O-4 level appears.  Given AFPCs  current track record at planning for end strength I am highly skeptical that they would get this right on the first try. They will just go back to doing PRFs and kicking out the bottom 10% of captains 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleRattle Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Has anyone seen the '18 ANG O-5 promotion results yet? IIRC, public release is tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 2:10 PM, Ash said: This is more complicated then simply retaining officers after two failures to promote. Congressional end strength numbers need to be considered; which means retaining passed over FGOs would have a trickle down effect, prolonging the years spent as a captain until a vacancy at the O-4 level appears.  Given AFPCs  current track record at planning for end strength I am highly skeptical that they would get this right on the first try. Given how fast senior captains and FGOs are bailing, I think we'll have some time before this becomes a problem. We're already shifting boards left due to the number of unfilled FGO slots. Step one would just be to move them back to the right, where they were historically for the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkbum Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Has anyone seen the '18 ANG O-5 promotion results yet? IIRC, public release is tomorrow...Yes. Got them yesterday. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseClub Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 8:04 AM, ruckerstud said: Along the lines of up or out going away, is anyone hearing anything about why this board is at the CJCS? Is it like the last Majors board where they are promoting a bunch of APZ guys. One the upside, at least I can laugh that I will be gettting my notification for the next board and my results from this board the same week. ^great question....was wondering this same thing myself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/16/2018 at 3:25 PM, MooseClub said: ^great question....was wondering this same thing myself I'm wondering if I should get to work on my PRF. At least there won't be a ton of new info to add, since there's no way I'll get another OPR between now and the March board date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slc Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Anyone know how to find pin-on dates for AFRC O-5 promotions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNotARobot Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Anyone know how to find pin-on dates for AFRC O-5 promotions?Should be 1 Oct, first day of the new FY unless your local leadership holds you to 7-yr ROPMA. Which is stupid if they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) MyPers says CY18 LT COL (LAF) results will be publicly released on 10 Oct at 0900 CDT. Wish everyone the best of luck.   Edited September 29, 2018 by Lifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 cool  good luck everyone!  That means results are out there with the FSS and wing leadership.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirjrod00 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Has anyone been notified yet? If not, when will Sq/CC’s get access to the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war007afa Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, sirjrod00 said: Has anyone been notified yet? If not, when will Sq/CC’s get access to the list? Installation-specific when it’s released to SQ/CCs. Typically day-prior in order to enable notification to those who didn’t make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Most should have prior to the weekend in order to tell their folks.  Nothing worse than having to wait the entire weekend to find out and not be able to celebrate or get over a let down over a long weekend   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ratner Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Most should have prior to the weekend in order to tell their folks.  Nothing worse than having to wait the entire weekend to find out and not be able to celebrate or get over a let down over a long weekend   Honestly these days it's more of a celebrate or celebrate type situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDDieselPilot Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Anyone have access to the list? Shoot me a PM, I'll make a trade. Edit: done, thanks for the help brosky. Â Edited October 4, 2018 by MDDieselPilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtic020 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I was notified this morning.  2BTZ. -- Did not make it. Did I think I would? No. Am I upset? Also no.   Good luck to everyone else out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Were you even competitive for 2bpz?   I too am 2bpz.  Only 10% of BPZ got DPs.  1/3 of those are promoted on average, plus/minus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtic020 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, bennynova said: Were you even competitive for 2bpz?   I too am 2bpz.  Only 10% of BPZ got DPs.  1/3 of those are promoted on average, plus/minus 1-star boss told me I had a chance but came away from the MLR with a P so I knew I had no shot. Same thing for 1BPZ for me most likely -- I'm at a joint command where strats are tough to come by. Was trading on a couple Wing #1s for 2BPZ and my record will not improve by the next board so at this point...in the zone is more than okay with me. Heading to IDE In Res next year....assume the school MLR is pretty friendly for IPZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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