danvgalhb Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 5 hours ago, Chicken said: Great example of what is making this AF what it is. Devote your promotion and energy on payback......wow. Devote? Try again, like side note. Oh wait, I already said that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danvgalhb Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well, 2016 0-5 LAF stats are out. It looks like the overall promotion rate for all zones combined was slightly lower than last year (although the IPZ promotion rate was a little higher this year than last). Most unique data point of them all IMO; one 'P' BPZ from 3096 'P' BPZs who got promoted, while also beating out 268 'DP' BPZs who didn't get the nod for 0-5. 2016 LAF LTC.xlsx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bode Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 So the dates for the 08 Maj board came out and it will be in March of next year. Now with that I have a few questions, first, what is the cutoff date for something being part of the package that meets the board. The reason I ask is I have at least one wing lvl award as well as a project which is has MAJCOM/CC vis which will be complete by the end of year but was not documented on my previous OPR. Second question, how can I get those items documented to be added to my PRF? Also, my next OPR isn't scheduled to close out til Feb of next year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach braff Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Lstcause257. The cutoff date would be whatever date your SR signs your PRF. All items in the PRF are supposed to be cited from OPRs, TRs, DECs, but SRs always have wiggle room. So if you have a big award or something, it shouldn't be a problem. Your wing may have their own process, but an MFR from your CC stating the award (with documentation like the official announcement) going up with your PRF package should cover it. I had a few items in my PRF and previous RRFs that were recent and not-yet in OPRs and there were no issues at the MFR or at the board. Good luck. zb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFNZ Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Lstcause257 said: So the dates for the 08 Maj board came out and it will be in March of next year. Now with that I have a few questions, first, what is the cutoff date for something being part of the package that meets the board. The reason I ask is I have at least one wing lvl award as well as a project which is has MAJCOM/CC vis which will be complete by the end of year but was not documented on my previous OPR. Second question, how can I get those items documented to be added to my PRF? Also, my next OPR isn't scheduled to close out til Feb of next year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What exactly will be in March? Accounting date? PRFs due to MAJCOM? Actual board date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bode Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 The board date is like 20 March. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Dude... wow. March? That's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAg03 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Dude... wow. March? That's crazy. Isn't it? We've gone from guys waiting forever to pin on to almost having the board as early as possible in the year very quickly. Is this a symptom of a larger problem? So few O-4s we now have to promote as early as we can? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said: Isn't it? We've gone from guys waiting forever to pin on to almost having the board as early as possible in the year very quickly. Is this a symptom of a larger problem? So few O-4s we now have to promote as early as we can? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Three of the guys who got promoted from the 05 group at my base are leaving the Air Force less than a year after pinning on. I know at least one 06 guy with similar plans, and an 07 guy who just got his PRF back and already has applications in with airlines and a job at the reserve squadron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slander Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 So...when does this mean my PRF closeout date will be as an '08 captain? Or can someone tell me where to find that information that isn't "call your exec" please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, Slander said: So...when does this mean my PRF closeout date will be as an '08 captain? Or can someone tell me where to find that information that isn't "call your exec" please? Assuming they've released all the dates, you should be able to find it on MyPers under "Officer Promotions". It will typically have a timeline for board date, accounting date, final date to get stuff into the selection folder. We can't tell you when the stuff will be due to your squadron or your wing...that is an answer that you will actually need to talk to the exec to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 So...when does this mean my PRF closeout date will be as an '08 captain? Or can someone tell me where to find that information that isn't "call your exec" please? It should be posted in the promotion section on mypers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR800 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Look under Officer Promotions on myPers. 27 Mar - 7 Apr are the board dates. They haven't published the milestones list for 2017 yet (can be found on same page), but using this year's timeline, looks like an accounting date of around Oct '16 and PRFs due to MAJCOM around the end of Jan '17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truman08 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Anybody catch that there is another Maj LAF board also in Dec '17?. Is that most likely for '09 guys? If that's the case, it seems as though there was a full reversal from the decision to postpone the '05 year group. Either that or they can't deal with the impending shortage of 0-4s. (Edited for spelling) Edited June 22, 2016 by Truman08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hispeed7721 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yeah that look to be the case...LAF guys who pinned Capt anytime in 2013 will meet the board 4 Dec 17 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war007afa Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 17 hours ago, Lstcause257 said: So the dates for the 08 Maj board came out and it will be in March of next year. Now with that I have a few questions, first, what is the cutoff date for something being part of the package that meets the board. The reason I ask is I have at least one wing lvl award as well as a project which is has MAJCOM/CC vis which will be complete by the end of year but was not documented on my previous OPR. Second question, how can I get those items documented to be added to my PRF? Also, my next OPR isn't scheduled to close out til Feb of next year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A few points: - Theres always a possibility to work a CRO or other means to generate an OPR date movement in front of the board for your PRF or draft a medal for an accomplishment. - Although there are "sticklers" in the Air Force who will insist every bullet originates from a report of some kind, this requirement is not accurate. The actual requirement points out that the Senior Rater "must know the information to be true". This means if an action is so great it makes the cut-line for a PRF, it can be included without previously being on a report. This also means if your stratification has improved since your last report, it can (and should) reflect in the push line. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 6 hours ago, Slander said: where to find that information that isn't "call your exec" please? Why's that? This type of thing literally makes up the bulk of the miserable lives these people lead... might as well capitalize on the knowledge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bode Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Sorry it's sideways but it gets the point across. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slander Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Why's that? This type of thing literally makes up the bulk of the miserable lives these people lead... might as well capitalize on the knowledge. Because I like knowing how to find answers rather than only knowing who to try to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Because I like knowing how to find answers rather than only knowing who to try to find. Value in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I am writing a "Do Not Promote" letter to my first look O-4 board. 1) will my Wing CC be able to see this? 2) should I give someone in my chain a heads up? They know why I want to get out and go to the ANG (family health reasons), but seem to hate anyone who tries to, God forbid, get out of AD. Any advice would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I am writing a "Do Not Promote" letter to my first look O-4 board. 1) will my Wing CC be able to see this? 2) should I give someone in my chain a heads up? They know why I want to get out and go to the ANG (family health reasons), but seem to hate anyone who tries to, God forbid, get out of AD. Any advice would be appreciated. Duck, What do you stand to gain by not getting promoted? You are going to be continued, so you're not going to be able to dodge any ASDC and get out any earlier. By not getting promoted, you'll spend your last 2-3 years getting paid as a Capt instead of a Maj. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 You don't have to accept continuation if it is offered. If continuation is offered, it only means that you don't get separation pay on the way out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Ihtfp06, it would get me to the ANG 2 years sooner than if I stayed to the bitter end. I still want to serve full time but I have family issues pulling me back home. Twice passed over, they will offer me continuation and I will decline it and make the transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatup123 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Duck said: Ihtfp06, it would get me to the ANG 2 years sooner than if I stayed to the bitter end. I still want to serve full time but I have family issues pulling me back home. Twice passed over, they will offer me continuation and I will decline it and make the transition. You're going to try and go to the Guard or Reserve after being twice passed over on AD? Doesn't a unit have to get a huge waiver to hire you after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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