ThreeHoler Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Line number has no relation to the rack and stack on the board. There is a formula in an AFI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 On March 12, 2016 at 10:07 PM, C17Driver said: It's based on pool size. Line number is all about time in grade tyoically OTS guys commissioning in Jan - May will have the first 300-500 line numbers. Zoomies will have the next 900 rotc and OTS will out the rest based on their month they commisioned ATZ guys will always pin on first and BTZ always last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The Academy DG was around ~290 this year, IIRC Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFNZ Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Any more rumors of the '08 board being moved up to this Fall? Haven't heard or read anything besides what was posted on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennynova Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 What significance does academy DG being 290 have?? they are still behind the OTS guys from Jan - May, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 5 hours ago, bennynova said: What significance does academy DG being 290 have?? they are still behind the OTS guys from Jan - May, correct? Yes, but after that, all the USAFA grad line numbers for the same year are in class-rank order. DG is the first of his/her USAFA class to promote, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 DG is 10% of the graduating class. That is still around 90 people that have to be sorted. There is a huge formula that includes stuff like digits of your SSN to figure out line numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 DG is 10% of the graduating class. That is still around 90 people that have to be sorted. There is a huge formula that includes stuff like digits of your SSN to figure out line numbers. Wrong. Academy grads get their line number based on Rank Order of Merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwatch Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Wrong. Academy grads get their line number based on Rank Order of Merit. Yup. From mypers: criteria applied in order- 1 current grade dor 2 previous grade dor 3 total active federal commissioned service 4 total federal commissioned service 5 regular officers preceding reserve officers 6 regular Air Force acceptance date 7 grads of service academies, appointed as regular officers and assigned the same dor, on the active duty list in order if class standing 8 date of birth 9 reverse social security number with lowest taking precedence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Cool. Just what I've been saying dickwads. There is not 1 DG. There are 10% of the graduating class and yes, it is in rank order. Thank you for looking up the formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewpey Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Some PRF-related wisdom from the inbox You Are Not BTZ.pdf 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Some PRF-related wisdom from the inbox You Are Not BTZ.pdf Southwest.com "You may not be BTZ, but you'll make more money and have more fun doing it." Sadly (gladly for them), that's where the Air Force's true HPOs are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daynightindicator Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Some PRF-related wisdom from the inbox You Are Not BTZ.pdf This is a great read and extremely accurate. Young guys should take heed. I'll add (from my position as an on-time non-HPO guy myself) a few of my personal observations... In my little corner of the CAF, in the past few years I've noticed a possible pendulum swing in a favorable direction. I know a few on-timers currently serving as OG/CCs, and just recently have seen a few on-time dudes get hired as SQ/CCs over some BTZers. These were seen as surprising moves and in each case the dude chosen has a great rep as a solid bro who is well respected in the jet. None were career CCEs and in one case not even a school guy. On the other hand, the BTZers that were not hired had crappy reps as careerists and were not respected in the jet. I think this is a sign of leadership possibly realizing that performance, reputation, and demonstrated combat leadership abilities outweigh the box-check/pedigree method that was always seen as the standard for advancement. The best advice I ever received was from my flight commander when I showed up at my first ops squadron. "You should strive to be the guy that people want to be on the flight schedule with - to do that you need to be good in the jet. After that, be good at your ground job, and then be good in the bar - in that order." My experience is that if you work hard to be respected by your peers and subordinates, good leaders will notice and build their impression of you from those actions. Crappy leaders may not see that and you'll probably have a few of those. Treat them like threats - avoid if possible, if not minimize time in their MEZ and move on, pressing the attack on priority targets. Timing and luck are mostly out of your control, but if you keep your head down and press you'll maximize your chances of being in the right place at the right time when the phone rings at 2AM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticGator Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Anyone know how long it takes for your "selection board" folder that met the board to show up on PRDA? I can view my 2 and 1 BPZ. The board met about a month and a half ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Anyone know how long it takes for your "selection board" folder that met the board to show up on PRDA? I can view my 2 and 1 BPZ. The board met about a month and a half ago. Same day as public release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscle2002 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Same day as public release. Last year, I was able to see my selection folder in PRDA about two weeks after getting my PRF back from the SR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 There is the "selection" folder that is available pre-board...you use that one to verify everything in your record is correct. The "board" folder lower down is the "as-met" and is not available until public release. It will have everything the board saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscle2002 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 There is the "selection" folder that is available pre-board...you use that one to verify everything in your record is correct. The "board" folder lower down is the "as-met" and is not available until public release. It will have everything the board saw. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Sauce Hoy Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 So how does the scoring system at a promotion board work? Everyone starts with a 7.5...then does a DP add a certain number of points? Is there actually specific guidance in the scoring or is it simply board member overall judgement and they all use their own scoring system to assign a score to the record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticGator Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I believe last years Lt Col board results were released on 9 June. Last thing I saw on MyPers is saying mid to late June for P0516B. Anyone hear anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostin Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 AFPC just updated the guidance - results will be out 9 June. https://gum-crm.csd.disa.mil/ci/fattach/get/5690028/1464293532/redirect/1/filename/Status-of-boards-Major-Col.pdf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaggedEd Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hey all, I recently failed my PT test as a Lt at UPT. Already got my assignment and graduated, just waiting to start follow on training. Hadn't stayed on top of things as a stud, and when I graduated I hit the gym pretty hard leading up to the fitness test. Showed up to the test sore (dumb), and cramped up on the sit-ups and subsequently failed by two. I'm reading that this is a pretty serious mistake. What's the typical outcome from this? I was pretty much told "don't sweat it just don't let it happen again" but it seems like this can end a career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromedome Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure how it will affect you while you are in training, it might affect your training report. Failing the test isn't good though. If you get the reputation of the guy that sucks at PT, it will definetly affect they way your leadership looks at you. You really need to knock the PT Test out of the water the next time around and not ever fail again. One of my buddies is a C-130 pilot at hurlburt and he failed his PT test, got a referral and was passed over for Maj. Edited June 1, 2016 by Chromedome 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HU&W Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 8 hours ago, RaggedEd said: Hey all, I recently failed my PT test as a Lt at UPT. Already got my assignment and graduated, just waiting to start follow on training. Hadn't stayed on top of things as a stud, and when I graduated I hit the gym pretty hard leading up to the fitness test. Showed up to the test sore (dumb), and cramped up on the sit-ups and subsequently failed by two. I'm reading that this is a pretty serious mistake. What's the typical outcome from this? I was pretty much told "don't sweat it just don't let it happen again" but it seems like this can end a career. Yup. Big mistake. On the bright side, you failed at the best possible time in your career to do so. Work hard. Never let it happen again. Some far-fetched doors might be closed as a result, but you've got time to recover for all the important stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Ragged, . Did you tell the PT admins that you cramped up? You might have the option to get the test invalidated by your CC followed by a retest, but you have to act quickly, hopefully your failure was today. Unfortunately, this failure has the potential to have a much bigger impact on your career than it should. In the C-17 community, it would be really tough to not be at the bottom of the rack and stack when it comes time to hand out some crappy assignment, even if you avoid a referral OPR. Don't let this get you down though, if anything just focus on rocking your next course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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