Champ Kind Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I heard it was gonna be McDew. Then God help us and starting working your exit plans yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledemployee Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I heard it was gonna be McDew. If so, then retired Gen Handy should sit in the front row of that ceremony and give him the "I'm watching you" look. Handy is like McDew kryptonite. Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herkasaurus Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 *She Sorry, my sarcasm may have been applied too heavily....I realize the bio says it's a woman. However when you look at that "woman" it's quite difficult to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 McDew or Selva will be the next CSAF. We could definitely do worse... a lot worse. Yeah, put another Herk guy in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSCguy Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I still think the PR value of the first female USAFA grad as CSAF is too good to pass up. Add that to the current SECAF and we're shattering the glass ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach braff Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 My guess: Robinson or Rand as next CSAF, with odds slightly in Robinson's favor. But what does this have to with promotions or PRFs…? New "next CSAF" thread perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAround Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 My money is on Selva. God forbid if it's McDew. Pray that it's not McDew. The earth will implode if it's McDew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) My guess: Robinson or Rand as next CSAF, with odds slightly in Robinson's favor. But what does this have to with promotions or PRFs…? New "next CSAF" thread perhaps? A non-pilot? Nope. Plus she's junior to all the other potentials. My money is on Selva. Edited November 9, 2014 by Azimuth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravens52 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Does anyone have the timeline info from when the 2004 Maj board convened to when the results were posted and pin on began? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn15 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Board: Dec 12, first pin on: Jan 14. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Last pin on: Not yet. That year group will be major selects for longer than they were second lieutenants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkDiggler Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Who is McDew, I'm not familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addict Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 6,000 mile screwdriver with a Q3 tip 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach braff Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Does anyone have the timeline info from when the 2004 Maj board convened to when the results were posted and pin on began? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It will be far different for this board due to the year long delay. 2004s are projected to finish pin on in May or June. So 2005 will hear results likely in March(ish) and pin-ons should begin in Jun/Jul. August at latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThatGuy Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The 05 year group promotion board started/met today correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestik Møøse Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Any of the aforementioned names are great examples for why no one should've stopped working on their masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnkrToad Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Board: Dec 12, first pin on: Jan 14. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Last pin on: Not yet. That year group will be major selects for longer than they were second lieutenants. I'm no math major, but 13 months from board to first pin-on ain't bad. Other year groups have had much longer waits between promotion selection and pin-on. Is your beef really that boards are happening later in folks' careers? If so, talk to dudes who met their O-4 boards back in the early 90s. You'll feel much better about your pin-on times/promotion opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty-six & Two Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Next year's Maj LAF board has been moved up to 21 Sep - 2 Oct. Better start on your PRFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThatGuy Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Any word on whether that 95% promotion rate for the 2005 year group is true, false, or just plain bull? Why would rates be that high if it's true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Isn't the normal around 90% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learjetter Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Any word on whether that 95% promotion rate for the 2005 year group is true, false, or just plain bull? Why would rates be that high if it's true? It's more like a 90% promotion opportunity. So if there are 2200 Capts IPZ, there will be about 1980 promotions for the 2500+ or so I/APZ Capts... Hopefully, they'll drop the DP rate to 50%...when its 75%, there are DPs who don't get promoted...and that sux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty-six & Two Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) It's more like a 90% promotion opportunity. So if there are 2200 Capts IPZ, there will be about 1980 promotions for the 2500+ or so I/APZ Capts... Hopefully, they'll drop the DP rate to 50%...when its 75%, there are DPs who don't get promoted...and that sux. The amount of DPs that don't get promoted is less than 0.5%. Most of the time when an individual isn't promoted with a DP, it is because a SR is trying to game the system to get that borderline person promoted. Edited December 12, 2014 by Fifty-six & Two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learjetter Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 That's kinda my point...if 75% DPs are awarded, then 99% of the DPs get promoted, it means SRs are promoting their folks...not the board. I think it'd be better if the DP rate was more like 50%, but the SR can award them I/A/BPZ as desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Exactly, that's the point. You think it's a better, fairer, or more accurate system to have a board of mixed AFSCs sitting around a table at Randolph deciding a guy's fate based entirely on his paper record than it is for the guy's direct chain of command who knows, works, flys, and has interacted with him to decide? ...How on earth do you figure that? For a Major's board ('12 as an example) with a ~90% promotion rate, you want the board to have to sift through 50% of the records (~1,280 records), just to turn around and promote 79% (~1,006) of them anyway? (It'd be even more if the promotion rate is 95%). What a waste of time. ...And if you think passed-over guys are bitter/butt-hurt now, imagine the mistakes and injustice that would come from giving more latitude to a board full of strangers using nonsense CGO OPR bullets to make promotion decisions. High DP rates (and DNPs) are one of the few things I think is good about the system. Let Senior Raters be SENIOR RATERS. The trend is for less DPs and more promotion board input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learjetter Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Exactly, that's the point. You think it's a better, fairer, or more accurate system to have a board of mixed AFSCs sitting around a table at Randolph deciding a guy's fate based entirely on his paper record than it is for the guy's direct chain of command who knows, works, flys, and has interacted with him to decide? ...How on earth do you figure that? For a Major's board ('12 as an example) with a ~90% promotion rate, you want the board to have to sift through 50% of the records (~1,280 records), just to turn around and promote 79% (~1,006) of them anyway? (It'd be even more if the promotion rate is 95%). What a waste of time. ...And if you think passed-over guys are bitter/butt-hurt now, imagine the mistakes and injustice that would come from giving more latitude to a board full of strangers using nonsense CGO OPR bullets to make promotion decisions. High DP rates (and DNPs) are one of the few things I think is good about the system. Let Senior Raters be SENIOR RATERS. #1: SRs lack authority to promote officers #2: SRs can be really dumb, can and do bend the rules #3: it's the fairest for all when IMPARTIAL folks evaluate your record #4: SRs input to the process is the PRF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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