Hunter Rose Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ihtfp06 said: Anyone know where the PSDM is? It’s not available on mypers anymore. If I remember correctly they did that last year when they tweaked the FY17 AvB program (to include categories for contract expired folks) and then re-released it with an extended sign-up date. I wonder if the first month take rate was so abysmally low that they are trying to make it more appealing. There's some really stupid stuff in the AvB program, like limiting contract expired folks eligibility for a 2nd bonus to only those folks whose contract expires in FY18. It's a pilot retention crisis! If someone had a contract expire last year, didn't take the 2nd bonus, but changed their mind this year and was willing to extend to 22-24 YAS, why the hell would you not take them?!?!? Edited June 27, 2018 by Hunter Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFG Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 hours ago, ihtfp06 said: Anyone know where the PSDM is? It’s not available on mypers anymore. I heard they’re not offering it anymore, because it’s not about the money. Flight pay is also being canceled, along with BAH in all locations where base housing is an option. There is also talk about capping pay at the Captain level. Since money is not important and you should only stay in to serve. (Forget about age 43 to 100... you won’t need money for that) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty-six & Two Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 The PSDM is back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragspider Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 38 minutes ago, Fifty-six & Two said: The PSDM is back up Any changes to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olevelo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 For those that haven’t seen the chatter on the CSO FB page, a new version of the PSDM is coming out tomorrow, expanding eligibility to all uncommitted CSO’s with pre-FY18 commitments; ie all of us old guys, finally! 12M’s included. 20k or 25k per year, up to 9 years, 50% up front. There’s some expanded pilot stuff too, but who cares about that. Scenario question: say a late rated guy has the option of 9 years, which would take him to 25 years TFCSD (or whatever it’s called), which is under the 24 YAS limit for the bonus, but then gets twice passed over, limiting him to 24 years due to HYT...do they have to pay back the year of bonus, or do they get it anyway because they committed to it but the AF said nah, never mind? Also assume in the mid scenario that this guy already had something else that was gong to commit him to 24 years anyway, so the 8 year option is a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 You have to pay back the unearned portion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olevelo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 You have to pay back the unearned portion.That’s what I thought. I seem to remember some scenario where you can keep part of a bonus or other special pay, but I think it was some very special circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyusaf83 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 4 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: You have to pay back the unearned portion. Well.... if we are talking about the Nav bonus... all of it then? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schokie Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, flyusaf83 said: Well.... if we are talking about the Nav bonus... all of it then? Ha! I see what you did there. You implied radiator wings are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, schokie said: Ha! I see what you did there. You implied radiator wings are useless. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooter Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Anyone know if you take your 50% while deployed, is it tax free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragspider Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, Cooter said: Anyone know if you take your 50% while deployed, is it tax free? No. Part of it might be. But it’s only tax free up to what an E-9 makes. Anything over that is taxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 No. Part of it might be. But it’s only tax free up to what an E-9 makes. Anything over that is taxed. What an E-9 makes for the month. So...as an O-4...about tree fiddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprkt69 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Is it E-9 or E-10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragspider Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 7 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: What an E-9 makes for the month. So...as an O-4...about tree fiddy. Thanks for clarifying that, I forgot it’s a month. 7 hours ago, Sprkt69 said: Is it E-9 or E-10? Yeah just the E-9, don’t want them to feel bigger than they already think they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 We need to start a new thread to talk about E-9s as that would be a large topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 15 hours ago, cragspider said: No. Part of it might be. But it’s only tax free up to what an E-9 makes. Anything over that is taxed. Specifically it's the base pay of the CMSAF ($8361) plus HFP/IDP ($225). So you get up to $8,586 of each month tax free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Specifically it's the base pay of the CMSAF ($8361) plus HFP/IDP ($225). So you get up to $8,586 of each month tax free.One of the downsides to getting it all at once. If the 30 (or 35 for pointy nose/drones) was spread across 12 months, you could see some nice tax savings when you go down range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilanteNav Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Anyone successfully got an ETP approved to be able to take the bonus...specifically, allowing you to go over the YAS limits as published? Or, alternative phrasing, since I assume the Take Rates will be lower than they anticipate/are funded for/need, will they be open to giving out ETPs to allow going over the published YAS limits? I can see why they have to put some limit on the YAS but if they are going to get the warm body that they need, why not grant an ETP? Any other old crusties in this boat and willing to give it a go? Yeah, yeah, I know they'll send me to the Died or worse for a year as soon as my ink dries on the ppwrk. But, I'm going with a long term play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitzo Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Specifically it's the base pay of the CMSAF ($8361) plus HFP/IDP ($225). So you get up to $8,586 of each month tax free.Yup. But there’s no such policy for enlisted. They get it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineline Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I’m not near a computer than can access MyPers right now. With the expanded bonus released today, what is the skinny on tier 9 eligible dudes?-9- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilanteNav Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Nineline said: I’m not near a computer than can access MyPers right now. With the expanded bonus released today, what is the skinny on tier 9 eligible dudes? -9- Excess time on my hands...so cut and paste from the PSDM... Tier 9 bubbas... - AvB agreement of 3-years minimum which extends member to 22 YAS, 23 YAS, or 24 YAS; annual payments of $35,000 for Tier 1 community; $30,000 for Tier 3 community; or $28,000 for Tier 4 community - Aviators with greater than 21 YAS and less than or equal to 23 YAS at the time of contract signing may sign a new AvB contract that extends the aviator to 24 YAS. Aviators with greater than 23 YAS are not eligible for a new AvB contract in FY18 - In no case can contracts extend past 24 years YAS Cheers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineline Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Excess time on my hands...so cut and paste from the PSDM... Tier 9 bubbas... - AvB agreement of 3-years minimum which extends member to 22 YAS, 23 YAS, or 24 YAS; annual payments of $35,000 for Tier 1 community; $30,000 for Tier 3 community; or $28,000 for Tier 4 community - Aviators with greater than 21 YAS and less than or equal to 23 YAS at the time of contract signing may sign a new AvB contract that extends the aviator to 24 YAS. Aviators with greater than 23 YAS are not eligible for a new AvB contract in FY18 - In no case can contracts extend past 24 years YAS Cheers! Copy, so it looks like the only change from the original is that dudes whose contract expired before FY18 are now able to re-up as well.-9- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Skitzo said: Yup. But there’s no such policy for enlisted. They get it all. Which Enlisted member makes more than the CMSAF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronxbomber252 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Which Enlisted member makes more than the CMSAF?None in salary, but they get their bonus tax free (even if way more than CMSAF montly) if deployed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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