Karl Hungus Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 hours ago, caseylf said: I see lots of Art postings in the Guard/Reserves but are they not giving out AGR jobs? Would guys stay in or have they already made the decision to jump to the airlines for more stability? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Why the screenname change Scoobs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazmo Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Why the screenname change Scoobs?I was thinking the same thing.Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineapigfury Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Vetter said: Airline life is like a stripper. Once to get your hands on her and see how nice she feels, you'll never be able to go back to your ugly, fat bitch wife. Sure, the stripper isn't perfect by any means...but it's oh so much better than your previous witch... This is a hilariously accurate depiction of civilian life. I'm not in the airlines, but do a flying job for comparable pay. When I look back on Big Blue I think the same thing I do about my ex-wife: why the fuck did I ever put up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Airline life is like a stripper. Once to get your hands on her and see how nice she feels, you'll never be able to go back to your ugly, fat bitch wife. Sure, the stripper isn't perfect by any means...but it's oh so much better than your previous witch...After falling out of my chair laughing I printed this and hung it in the sq. Well done. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 7:56 PM, Sprkt69 said: If that's the case, might as well bring back Bergstrom. I'm sure plenty of people would volunteer for that one. I wish (native Austinite here)! I remember visiting Bergstrom when I was in middle school before it got BRAC'd. Now it's the international airport...so that won't work either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrateOfThunder Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I did a quick search and found the question posted, but not really answered... Are VRAD (voluntary return to active duty) 11Fs ACP eligible? Apparently there are some unfilled 3 year orders available, but the VRAD AFI doesn't seem to address it directly. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 On 1/12/2017 at 7:28 PM, CrateOfThunder said: I did a quick search and found the question posted, but not really answered... Are VRAD (voluntary return to active duty) 11Fs ACP eligible? Apparently there are some unfilled 3 year orders available, but the VRAD AFI doesn't seem to address it directly. Thanks! No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnkrToad Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Bump-- It's been 4 months since the FY closed out, but AFPC still has yet to post the FY16 Rated Retention Report. I have no way of knowing if this is due to ignorance, incompetence, or concern about publishing bad news. Observations: - The early take rate for the FY17 eligibles was 28.4% (233/820). I reckon this covers all the IDE selects, folks in AF-sponsored Masters & Ph.D. programs, etc.--i.e., folks who were bound to stay in anyway -- These are overall stats; the 11F & 11B communities are pretty darn bad--19.7% early takers for fighters & 22.4% early takers for bombers. These stats pretty much match the early take rates from the prior FY, though - We're a third of the way into the new FY, but I haven't heard anybody griping about Big Blue's delay in implementing this FY's policy -- The lack of concern/discussion on this forum seems like a pretty clear negative indicator of interest in taking the bonus After all the AF senior leaders' public handwringing over pilot shortages, it'll be interesting to see how much this FY's ACP offering changes. TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) There are some mitigating factors in that the PBR is VERY delayed and might not be submitted for another 60-90 days (typically the RMD is out by now. With approval not likely until the summer it adds to the confusion. Regardless, they are fucked... Edited January 31, 2017 by ClearedHot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnkrToad Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 hours ago, ClearedHot said: There are some mitigating factors in the the PBR is VERY delayed and might not be submitted for another 60-90 days (typically the RMD is out by now. With approval not likely until the summer it adds to the confusion. Regardless, they are fucked... Ouch. Confusion and delay are exactly what Big Blue needs to avoid when it comes to pilot retention initiatives; appreciate the insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 There are plenty of things to blame on Air Force leadership, but pay and benefits are not one of them. That is squarely on Congress. The reason the bonus didn't go up this year (FY2017) to 60k or even 48k was because Congress didn't approve it in the NDAA. The House wanted 60k, the Senate didn't want any increase at all past 25k. The compromise was an increase to 35k, which was already authorized for RPA pilots, but not other pilots. I think Air Force leadership is wholly to blame for the bonus not climbing more. Our previous CSAF didn't accurately convey the gravity of the pilot shortage to the Senate. As such, it's reasonable that they wouldn't get behind the House version of the bill. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, BeerMan said: A large number of Senators and Congressmen won't even entertain a meeting with a General unless they are a 4-star, and even then it depends on the individual Congressional member and the 4-star's job (COCOM, Service Chief) and what impact they have on the member's state. Absolute truth....sickeningly true. During my two sentences in the building my trips to the Hill were the least favorite experiences because of the inept and generally "what can you do for me and my district" attitude. We repeatedly tried to explain complex issues that needed attention, serious thought, action and funding now to prevent future catastrophes. More often than not the staffers (you rarely get to the elected official), looked at you with a blank stare. McCain was one of the worst, anytime the Air Force proposed a basing action, regardless of where it was, he wanted to know why that function, unit, aircraft wasn't being moved to Arizona. I feel like I need a shower just remembering it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 8 hours ago, BeerMan said: Although you may feel that "Our previous CSAF didn't accurately convey the gravity of the pilot shortage to the Senate" I'm here to tell you that I don't think that is true. What is your reasoning for thinking otherwise? BeerMan Good insights, thanks for the post. However, when the former CSAF was directly asked about morale, his answer was pretty darn good. In truth, it is not good and was not when he said those words, and he frankly should have known that. Consequently, a lot of folks "feel" he was inaccurate in his representation of the gravity of challenges facing our force. Im sure your observations are correct about D.C., and I'm sure the CSAF does a lot of things behind the scenes that we'll never know about. Certainty the folks who worked for him were filled with a protective zealotry in every conversation. But in life, we get judged by what people see, even if they don't have the full picture. It's unfair, but nonetheless is it true. And what I saw from that CSAF was someone almost out the door, with nothing to lose politically that still stuck to how he felt instead of what the statistical indicators said. He was incredibly fake in my single meeting with him, although I know that is anecdotal. He literally lost and never acted on the hugely important QOL survey he told us to take. His legacy, in my opinion, is one of talking a big game and failing to play with the heart we needed. When I contrast his behavior with the line guys flying and fighting, it saddens me that he didn't appear to attack his job with the same selfless vigor I see from the the average mid career mid-strat IP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazmo Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Well on the upside to a pilot shortage, we just gave Iran a formal pee-pee smacking for their ongoing shenanigans...Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs-N-Guns Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 myPers just updated the ARP page. FY2017 program expected release mid to late spring 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbush Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 So probably June then, which is 9 months into the FY (not that it'll likely make much difference) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icohftb Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 For those people who are on the bonus, then get twice passed over, and refuse continuation, are they forced to separate? If so, how does the air force handle the bonus paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 For those people who are on the bonus, then get twice passed over, and refuse continuation, are they forced to separate? If so, how does the air force handle the bonus paid?It is in the reg. You pay it back for any unserved time...at the full rate.Sure, you got $18,750 due to the tax of 25% but you owe the full $25,000 back (if you don't serve the year, i.e. Get out the day after getting paid your latest installment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icohftb Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 And then I suppose you have to amend your taxes? Also any idea how much time they give you to pay it back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtanker Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 https://www.stripes.com/air-force-chief-seeks-to-lower-commercial-flight-hour-requirement-1.452920 CSAF taking the side of minimum wage paying regionals to fight 1500 hour rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzle Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Why the F' don't they just add TSP matching to any AFSC 11X or 12X or Aviation bonus payment used for TSP....the services are allowed to match.... It'd be a small upfront payment from Mother Blue for a possibly big benefit for aviators later when we're old and deaf from flying her planes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMILL Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Why the F' don't they just add TSP matching to any AFSC 11X or 12X or Aviation bonus payment used for TSP....the services are allowed to match.... It'd be a small upfront payment from Mother Blue for a possibly big benefit for aviators later when we're old and deaf from flying her planes. That's valid. I would love to get matching contributions. Would pay dividends on the far end. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperMan Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Swizzle said: Why the F' don't they just add TSP matching to any AFSC 11X or 12X or Aviation bonus payment used for TSP....the services are allowed to match.... It'd be a small upfront payment from Mother Blue for a possibly big benefit for aviators later when we're old and deaf from flying her planes. Because then they could never take it away. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyusaf83 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I'm curious... how much would the bonus have to be to keep you in, assuming the institutional problems of the AF don't get any better? For me, in my current community, it would have to be in the neighborhood of $75k/yr for 8 yrs and half of that as a lump sum. That could change. However, I have a suspicion that if the AF wants to simply throw money at this problem, they'll have to really open the checkbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 They're going to have to open it up before the commitment is up if they want people take the bonus to stay. 10 years of BS and then they dangle some money in front of you to put up with 5 more. People have long made up their minds by the time that point comes along in their career. Increasing flight pay might help make the 10 year ADSC a little more palatable by the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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