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11 hours ago, Lawman said:

 


If we are going down this route...

Diaper rash cream (the ones with a ton of zinc oxide) are apparently popular in some of the SOF circles for the inner thigh area and foot hotspots. That and body glide.


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Must be before your time

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13 hours ago, skibum said:

Gold Bond

"A golden breath mint for my balls!" 

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Must be before your time

Oh no, I’m a total advocate of the Gold Bond video. 

Also I’m a huge fan of the medicated gold bond challenge for new guys.

 

I (and a bunch of other “POGs”) just got a good laugh out of listening to a bunch of “super hooah” Rangers/long tabs nonchalantly talk about which lotion they liked to rub on themselves prior to a road march. Like wtf guys... this is up there with some other very weird stuff you should keep to yourselves.

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Lawman said:

Oh no, I’m a total advocate of the Gold Bond video. 

Also I’m a huge fan of the medicated gold bond challenge for new guys.

 

I (and a bunch of other “POGs”) just got a good laugh out of listening to a bunch of “super hooah” Rangers/long tabs nonchalantly talk about which lotion they liked to rub on themselves prior to a road march. Like wtf guys... this is up there with some other very weird stuff you should keep to yourselves.

 

 

 

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Yet you know all about it.

 

 

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Yet you know all about it.
 
 


This may surprise you, but the warrant community is full of prior enlisted.

Infantry guys are like a weird mix of fraternity and homelessness. SOF guys are that amplified.


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Guard Eagle Drivers:  What's the story on the F-15X from what you're hearing?  

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8 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Guard Eagle Drivers:  What's the story on the F-15X from what you're hearing?  

 

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A few weeks ago wasn't it 20, then 12, now 8.  At this rate it'll be 2 by the time we actually get them delivered

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45 minutes ago, YoungnDumb said:

A few weeks ago wasn't it 20, then 12, now 8.  At this rate it'll be 2 by the time we actually get them delivered

Don't worry, those two will cost as much each as the original 20, so no under execution problem

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1 hour ago, Clark Griswold said:

Don't worry, those two will cost as much each as the original 20, so no under execution problem

And built by Boeing, so will also need to be torn apart and rebuilt upon “acceptance”

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Now we know why we really conducted a "Light Attack Experiment" - to put $ away claiming we would purchase them... get congressional buy-in/support (bait), and switch to 4.5 gens at the end-game... timing is too good.  OK, I'll put away my tin foil conspiracy hat.

Of course, what did we expect hiring a Boeing dude as the SOD:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/03/13/shanahan-faces-ig-complaint-over-boeing-ties/

“Mr. Shanahan appears to have participated in the decision to include more than $1 billion in federal funds in the 2020 budget cycle for the F-15X fighter aircraft,” the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington said in their ethics complaint. “Mr. Shanahan’s reported conduct and comments appear to violate federal regulations and his Ethics Pledge, and CREW therefore requests that you investigate his alleged conduct.”

 

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30 minutes ago, Tonka said:

Now we know why we really conducted a "Light Attack Experiment" - to put $ away claiming we would purchase them... get congressional buy-in/support (bait), and switch to 4.5 gens at the end-game... timing is too good.  OK, I'll put away my tin foil conspiracy hat.

Of course, what did we expect hiring a Boeing dude as the SOD:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/03/13/shanahan-faces-ig-complaint-over-boeing-ties/

“Mr. Shanahan appears to have participated in the decision to include more than $1 billion in federal funds in the 2020 budget cycle for the F-15X fighter aircraft,” the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington said in their ethics complaint. “Mr. Shanahan’s reported conduct and comments appear to violate federal regulations and his Ethics Pledge, and CREW therefore requests that you investigate his alleged conduct.”

 

With Boeing it's not so much a tin foil hat you need, really more of a helmet...

https://www.investors.com/news/t-x-trainer-jet-contract-boeing-lockheed-t-50a/

They undercut LM/KAI and Leonardo by over 10 billion so there had to be something else in store for the T-X "franchise" (using their term from the referenced article) - Big B was going to be made whole on the other side of the contract by suddenly finding it was a great fit for Light Attack, Aggressor, Nat Guard fighter, etc... not even Boeing with the huge resources it has on hand could deliver the 350+ T-X jets at that much of a discount compared to the others...

The contract is for up to 475 aircraft and mods to the potential extra 125 to light fighter, aggressor or air demo team (maybe) would again give B more business to be made whole again for a ridiculously low bid for the trainers

I don't have a problem with spreading the contracts around to keep the whole industrial base healthy, we should have at least 3 major aerospace companies viable in all areas of defense air/space, but do it more honestly please.

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With the DoD forcing the AF to buy against its will Big Blue going all in on the two-seat F-15EX variant, is the CONOP to use the second seat on the regular for a WSO or second pilot as part of the basic crew... or just for B-Course IPs?

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