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So I have a package in with the AD Officer board and I really want to chase the manned pilot position but am not sure I can lock down pilot. If allowable, I would decline any other position and press for an ANG unit (wouldn't be eligible for AFRC). Guard has been becoming more and more appealing to me. I have a couple of questions:

1) Is it worth it to go for an instrument / multi rating? (I already have my PPL)

2) How much did your PCSM help in an interview? (99 PSCM, 98 Pilot)

3) I will be putting on 0-2 in June (2 of 4 yr commitment finished) and am curious how the timeline works going from AD to Guard. Can I even apply to current slots? How would it curtail to my current commitment?

4) How important art the visiting day's before an interview? I am OCONUS and it would be hard to make a weekend.

Thanks!

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So I have a package in with the AD Officer board and I really want to chase the manned pilot position but am not sure I can lock down pilot. If allowable, I would decline any other position and press for an ANG unit (wouldn't be eligible for AFRC). Guard has been becoming more and more appealing to me. I have a couple of questions:
1) Is it worth it to go for an instrument / multi rating? (I already have my PPL)
2) How much did your PCSM help in an interview? (99 PSCM, 98 Pilot)
3) I will be putting on 0-2 in June (2 of 4 yr commitment finished) and am curious how the timeline works going from AD to Guard. Can I even apply to current slots? How would it curtail to my current commitment?
4) How important art the visiting day's before an interview? I am OCONUS and it would be hard to make a weekend.
Thanks!



1) Not crucial. But it could only help.

2) 85+ PCSM/AFOQT will get you in the envelope for interviews with fighter units. Not sure what the competitive mark is for other A/C. 70+ I imagine.

3) Can’t speak for this one. 1-2 years from board to UPT for an off the street hire. Unsure for someone from AD.

4) Critically important, but probably some leeway if you are OCONUS.

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If you can't get a pilot slot in AD, why do you think you could get one in the ANG?  AD is dying for pilots right now; ANG units turn people down all the time.  The bigger challenge is the ANG pilot slot by far. 

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Hopful_guy, you can palace chase at 2/3rds of your commitment if you
didnt commission though USAFA.

Evil Eagle,

I am in a similiar boat as hopeful_guy.  I am an 0-2 and I have
applied multiple times to AD UPT board with no luck and have expanded
my search to guard/reserve units. I have 80 PCSM and 85 pilot, should
I retake the AFOQT to increase those scores? My pilot score was a 90
but went down to 85 when the new version of the AFOQT came out.  I
have a PPL with 75 hours, working on complex/high performace
endorsement now. I have a current TS/SCI.  I also have a Flying Class
1 physical approved by AETC.

My commander is currently a F-35 pilot (WIC instructor too) and he doesnt know what else I
should do to get picked up for UPT on AD side or the guard side,
except to keep trying.

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On 2/27/2018 at 4:11 PM, JudyJudy said:

Hopful_guy, you can palace chase at 2/3rds of your commitment if you
didnt commission though USAFA.

Evil Eagle,

I am in a similiar boat as hopeful_guy.  I am an 0-2 and I have
applied multiple times to AD UPT board with no luck and have expanded
my search to guard/reserve units. I have 80 PCSM and 85 pilot, should
I retake the AFOQT to increase those scores? My pilot score was a 90
but went down to 85 when the new version of the AFOQT came out.  I
have a PPL with 75 hours, working on complex/high performace
endorsement now. I have a current TS/SCI.  I also have a Flying Class
1 physical approved by AETC.

My commander is currently a F-35 pilot (WIC instructor too) and he doesnt know what else I
should do to get picked up for UPT on AD side or the guard side,
except to keep trying.

 I was in a similar boat boss. I went 0 for 2 officially and like 0 for 6 lifetime while on AD with similar numbers.

go reserve/guard. I’ve found having a commission with the TS, FC1, leadership etc. gets u to the front of the line more often than not (right behind already rated dudes). Started applying/rushing in Oct17 and have been 4 for 4 with the unit reaching back to me for a meet n greet invite/interview invite/follow up questions...

if you can get your unit to send you to all the necessary SERE courses that just boosts your resume being a cheaper alternative for whatever unit picks u up.

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On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 4:11 PM, JudyJudy said:

Hopful_guy, you can palace chase at 2/3rds of your commitment if you
didnt commission though USAFA.

Evil Eagle,

I am in a similiar boat as hopeful_guy.  I am an 0-2 and I have
applied multiple times to AD UPT board with no luck and have expanded
my search to guard/reserve units. I have 80 PCSM and 85 pilot, should
I retake the AFOQT to increase those scores? My pilot score was a 90
but went down to 85 when the new version of the AFOQT came out.  I
have a PPL with 75 hours, working on complex/high performace
endorsement now. I have a current TS/SCI.  I also have a Flying Class
1 physical approved by AETC.

My commander is currently a F-35 pilot (WIC instructor too) and he doesnt know what else I
should do to get picked up for UPT on AD side or the guard side,
except to keep trying.

Your scores are average; depending on what type of unit you are looking to get into it might be worth re-taking.  Most of the guys that apply at my unit have mid-high 90's across the board.  The flying time is good, but don't break the bank trying to build hours in a SEL (IMO it's not worth it). If you go for an ANG unit, I HIGHLY recommend visiting a few times to try to get in the interview pool. 

Good luck. 

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14 hours ago, EvilEagle said:

Your scores are average; depending on what type of unit you are looking to get into it might be worth re-taking.  Most of the guys that apply at my unit have mid-high 90's across the board.  The flying time is good, but don't break the bank trying to build hours in a SEL (IMO it's not worth it). If you go for an ANG unit, I HIGHLY recommend visiting a few times to try to get in the interview pool. 

Good luck. 

Thanks for the honest feed back EvilEagle. I am studying to retake the AFOQT, the first I took it was in college at the end of the semester during finals. I’m 100 percent confident I will do better and that my pilot and PCSM scores will increase. I will also fly a few more hours to bump into the 81-99 flight hour category, that alone will give me a 4 point bump on my PCSM. 

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