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On 11/12/2017 at 10:51 AM, dream big said:

Because as much as some leadership preach about 360 degree feedback, none of it exists in the USAF.  You are promoted purely on how well your OPRs and PRFs are written in the eyes of those above you who were successful in that same process.  Heck, even with the 100% to Major our Wing King still made everyone go through the PRF process; that’s how much they value paperwork.  So, in essence, you can be a class A D-bag and still get promoted really far. 

Yeah, the 360 degree feedback is bullshit too.  The currently douchebag that’s the 89th Command Chief had to do the 360 degree feedback and sent it to his “friends” to give him feedback.  Surprisingly enough no one that either didn’t like him, had worked for him, never received it.  Everything can be skewed in life and the Air Force would rather have professional “skewers of data” than addressing actual problems and telling douche bags they can’t be leaders.

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On November 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM, dream big said:

 Heck, even with the 100% to Major our Wing King still made everyone go through the PRF process; that’s how much they value paperwork. 

That's because the PRFs suspense date to the Wings were before the CSAF/Air Staff policy release. 

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2 hours ago, HeloDude said:

That's because the PRFs suspense date to the Wings were before the CSAF/Air Staff policy release. 

Yep.  Everyone locally here at base x was pissed that CSAF/HAF dropped that change so late.  The FS/OG/WG had already worked, routed, and rack/stacked the PRFs for the year.

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1 hour ago, Ram said:

Yep.  Everyone locally here at base x was pissed that CSAF/HAF dropped that change so late.  The FS/OG/WG had already worked, routed, and rack/stacked the PRFs for the year.

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19 hours ago, Ram said:

The FS/OG/WG had already worked, routed, and rack/stacked the PRFs for the year.

Just a curious question with regards to the new promotion policy to Major. If they routed and rack/stacked PRFs up to your WG/CC, did the WG/CC give feedback to every dude on how those PRFs would have departed the wing?

Or was it “good game, nothing more to see here” as the PRFs were tossed?

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My Wg/CC provided feedback to all the guys who had a PRF written on them. 


In my end of the world we weren’t so lucky. Our stuff made it all the way to the wing. Haven’t heard anything from anyone since the announcement. Glad I worked on those prfs.

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12 hours ago, B.L said:

In my end of the world we weren’t so lucky. Our stuff made it all the way to the wing. Haven’t heard anything from anyone since the announcement. Glad I worked on those prfs. emoji107.png

 

Same.

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On November 11, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Learjetter said:

 

I still peruse the forum but rarely post. Mostly because I'm a dinosaur and understand no one really wants to read my opinion on the topic of the day. Also cuz i read the forum on a phone and posting on a phone is a bitch for me.

 

I've posted advice and sarcastic snarky quips and occasionally PMd with some of you young'uns. Occassionally, Ive posted something someone found controversial, which can be fun, and sometimes reading the threads challenges my own perceptions and beliefs. But in reality, I retired in 2015 and the USAF of 2017 is one I barely recognize -- my opinion is probably less valid as anyone currently serving. Reading through a thread if i see a post i agree with, then theres no sense in my "piggybacking" or "piling on".. I have no idea if I've ever met CH or Liquid or Chang or any of the other senior members. But I served with only 1 toxic leader in my career. I mustve been lucky...or I spread my own share of toxicity. Either way, im not qualified to address it..or many of the other issues on the board.

 

 

 

I was a ROTC-recat: non-rated officer, then went to SUPT. IP/EP in Lears, KC-10s, and Hercs thru crossflow. Took the big 20YAS bonus the first day I was eligible. Ended up on staff and retired when it was clear I wasn't returning to fly or being considered for command.

 

I think Fingers is actually trying to address the combat readiness of the force. To that end, I did what I could in my little sphere of influence. I encourage you do the same.

 

Unfortunately, I think xaarman might be right...feet on the ramp is very effective at getting folks to show their cards early--therefore making the management of the red and blue lines easier to predict. And Im sure theyre looking at it as an option. Hope they dont choose it.

 

 

It's funny how quickly you become irrelevant after you get out.  I've been out 3 years now, and quit coming on here because I realized how quickly my world and this one diverged.  

What brought me back was this discussion.  I know the official word is that the AF isn't planning to make anyone come back off retirement, but I've heard different rumors.  Is there any insight into the probability of getting called back?  As a TERA retiree at 15.5, I haven't even hit 20 since commissioning yet...

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7 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Would love if you could share how you got TERA

Three years ago was 2014, when Debbie James cut the pendulum string.

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17 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Would love if you could share how you got TERA

Easy!  I got passed over twice for O5, and the second time just happened to be 2014.  Not really option A, but it worked out in the end.

 

As HU&W indicated, it was more about timing.  I think I was assisted in my outward movement by one of those toxic leaders CH referred to.  His nickname, at one time anyway, was "The Knife"...

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5 hours ago, Weezer said:

Problem solved on the pilot shortage.

...perhaps via Post 9/11 benefits...all to more easily fund, grow, and build accredited flying academies nationwide....

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On ‎11‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 10:14 AM, Weezer said:

Problem solved on the pilot shortage.

 

On ‎11‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 4:13 PM, Swizzle said:

...perhaps via Post 9/11 benefits...all to more easily fund, grow, and build accredited flying academies nationwide....

Very recently I understand that the VA is trying to  limit the number of GI Bill students at any one school. i.e. School A you can have a maximum of 35 percent of your students VA funded. I don't remember the exact percentage but it was something like that. Post 9/11 GI Bill is much easier to use for flight training than the older programs too. Interesting to see if Trump and congress will ultimately have some other plan in place over and above the GI Bill.

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