Jump to content
Baseops Forums
Sign in to follow this  
disgruntledemployee

The Next President is...

Recommended Posts

29 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Wait, I thought Mexico was paying. That was the campaign promise right? How’d we end up at a government shutdown over a wall that was promised to be paid for by funds that didn’t involve American tax dollars?  I’m confused. Are we taking the president literally or figuratively this week?

Mexico IS paying for it bigly.  All the money we are saving thru new NAFTA is....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Wait, I thought Mexico was paying. That was the campaign promise right? How’d we end up at a government shutdown over a wall that was promised to be paid for by funds that didn’t involve American tax dollars?  I’m confused. Are we taking the president literally or figuratively this week?

I thought I could keep my doctor too but turns out not everything they say is true - as long as he sticks to the core principles of that argument from his campaign - actually trying to secure the border, enforce our immigration laws, not allowing our country to taken advantage of from specious asylum claims and removing illegal aliens with a priority on violent ones I can live with footing that bill


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, uhhello said:

Mexico IS paying for it bigly.  All the money we are saving thru new NAFTA is....

Even if we ignore the fact that this isn’t how trade agreements work, I just want to point out that the new NAFTA (known as the USMCA) has not been ratified and therefore isn’t currently in effect. We are not, by any stretch of the imagination, raking in billions of pesos from our friends south of the border.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry bad link....just Google Countries that have some form of a physical hinderence   from illegal entry.  77 at last count according to many sources.....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, mcbush said:

Even if we ignore the fact that this isn’t how trade agreements work, I just want to point out that the new NAFTA (known as the USMCA) has not been ratified and therefore isn’t currently in effect. We are not, by any stretch of the imagination, raking in billions of pesos from our friends south of the border.

I don't think ANYBODY believes him on this.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, SHFP said:

Sorry bad link....just Google Countries that have some form of a physical hinderence   from illegal entry.  77 at last count according to many sources.....

But we are xenophobic for asking for one, makes sense. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
But we are xenophobic for asking for one, makes sense. 


America.... a country where an entire half of the population are “Islamaphobic racist white nationalists,” yet 1/3 of the people we resettle as refugees under Trump are scary brown people and Muslims.

I watched a movie on VICE network last night. They literally have a commercial running that is nothing but a recorded phone conversation of an illegal alien pleading how she should just be allowed in. It is entirely a point of view within the progressive Democratic Party that the mere enforcement of borders is some sort of draconian holdover and we should just allow anybody in. Those people don’t accept the idea of checked immigration much less a wall.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/6/2019 at 7:49 PM, uhhello said:

Mexico IS paying for it bigly.  All the money we are saving thru new NAFTA is....

Great. Then we don't need to budget for  a wall. Just use that extra NAFTA cash we got coming in.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/8/2019 at 9:37 PM, Vertigo said:

Great. Then we don't need to budget for  a wall.

That could be true...

From CNN:  Sell Wall Bonds

Who would set the coupon/maturity for this bond?  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Clark Griswold said:

That could be true...

From CNN:  Sell Wall Bonds

Who would set the coupon/maturity for this bond?  

We haven’t sold war bonds, significantly raised taxes, nor forced the bulk of the American people to shoulder increased cost or responsibility for the wars that we’re approaching the 17.5 year point in yet this guy somehow thinks there’s going to be an outpouring of public investment for building a wall?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, DirkDiggler said:

We haven’t sold war bonds, significantly raised taxes, nor forced the bulk of the American people to shoulder increased cost or responsibility for the wars that we’re approaching the 17.5 year point in yet this guy somehow thinks there’s going to be an outpouring of public investment for building a wall?

They did raise $14 million through a crowd funding initiative.

And bonds at least have a return.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
We haven’t sold war bonds, significantly raised taxes, nor forced the bulk of the American people to shoulder increased cost or responsibility for the wars that we’re approaching the 17.5 year point in yet this guy somehow thinks there’s going to be an outpouring of public investment for building a wall?

Light a candle or curse the darkness
We should look at what has worked before if we are unable to make what we have now work
Sell the bonds, reopen the gubmint


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/15/2019 at 6:32 AM, pawnman said:

They did raise $14 million through a crowd funding initiative.

And bonds at least have a return.

Fantastic! At that rate the wall will be fully funded in 69 years!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Fantastic! At that rate the wall will be fully funded in 69 years!

I personally don't care if it ever gets funded, but bonds would at least levy the cost on the people who desperately want to build it.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why wasn’t the wall funded when both House and Senate were under GOP control?  If it didn’t happen then, slim chance of happening now with the new regime. 

Edited by budderbar

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, budderbar said:

Why wasn’t the wall funded when both House and Senate were under GOP control?  If it didn’t happen then, slim chance of happening now with the new regime. 

Because Republicans seized every opportunity to not vote on it. Funding the wall became a White House priority after the Republicans lost the House.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yet they had two months to vote before the new Congress was sworn in.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

‘Cause they don’t want to pay for it either. The President’s ego is apparently blocking his brain’s view of the bleak outlook of funding the wall. The democratic house majority was elected precisely not to give into Trump. Pro tip: They ain’t caving. If he had any advisers worth a shit left in his circle, they’d be telling him that. Instead he listens to Hannity and Limbaugh. Hamberders for all! Covfefe!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
‘Cause they don’t want to pay for it either. The President’s ego is apparently blocking his brain’s view of the bleak outlook of funding the wall. The democratic house majority was elected precisely not to give into Trump. Pro tip: They ain’t caving. If he had any advisers worth a shit left in his circle, they’d be telling him that. Instead he listens to Hannity and Limbaugh. Hamberders for all! Covfefe!

5.7 billion for a wall that directly protects the security and sovereignty of ‘Merica vs 15 billion for what exactly in continuing the Syrian mission? 45 billion per year for Afghanistan? X billions per year deterring aggression for Germany with the 4th largest economy in the world?
Spending a modest amount to keep out illegal aliens (some from hostile nations and/or members of TNCOs) is well worth it


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Griswold - Stop Making Sense!!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Clark Griswold said:


5.7 billion for a wall that directly protects the security and sovereignty of ‘Merica vs 15 billion for what exactly in continuing the Syrian mission? 45 billion per year for Afghanistan? X billions per year deterring aggression for Germany with the 4th largest economy in the world?
Spending a modest amount to keep out illegal aliens (some from hostile nations and/or members of TNCOs) is well worth it


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

$5B isn't the total cost of the wall, that's what he's requesting to get started on the wall. Most estimates place the entire cost upwards of $50B-$100B.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What’s the yearly financial impact of illegal immigration?


Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  



×
×
  • Create New...