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The House will spend the next two years investigating “stuff” and throwing around “impeachment” and will do nothing. 

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There are worse things involving government than gridlock.

Besides, I'm led to believe that a large segment of the population is just fine with a President ruling with "a pen and a phone."

As to House Democrat investigations starting next term, I'm also led to believe that the same segment of the population is just fine with an Administration utterly ignoring House requests/subpoenas, etc.

Just ask Eric Holder.

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Justice Ginsberg is back in the hospital.  Democrats are powering up the defibrillator, the machine that goes "bing" and whatever else they think they might need to keep her from flat lining.  If she kicks the bucket,  can the Democrats kick up the toddler tantrum a notch or are they out of notches?

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2 minutes ago, TreeA10 said:

Justice Ginsberg is back in the hospital.  Democrats are powering up the defibrillator, the machine that goes "bing" and whatever else they think they might need to keep her from flat lining.  If she kicks the bucket,  can the Democrats kick up the toddler tantrum a notch or are they out of notches?

There's always another notch.

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Keeping in mind expectations from the 2016 election cycle, I am extremely pleased with what's been happening. Two SC justices already. Minimal losses in the house keeping in mind the house has always flipped during midterms except for three times in the history of the country (1930's, 1998 and 2002 IIRC). Gains in the senate, and a seemingly strong 2020 run with the potential for more SC justices. Leftists, please keep acting like infants. It's working. See you in 2020! 

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20 hours ago, matmacwc said:

And nary a word of Russians this election result cycle, color me shocked.  Want more proof the Russian thing is bullshit?

Or maybe because we were actively countering them this time?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-launches-first-cyber-operation-to-deter-russian-interference-in-midterm-elections/2018/10/23/12ec6e7e-d6df-11e8-83a2-d1c3da28d6b6_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4f486331adbe

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Everyone conveniently glossing over the fact 7 Republican governor offices were lost to the Dems when touting how well the Republican strategy is working.

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8 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

 the machine that goes "bing" 

Jeezuz, not the machine that goes "bing!"

 

I thought that was locked up in the warehouse with the Arc of the Covenant?

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3 hours ago, Homestar said:

RBG “fell” in her office? Are we sure it wasn’t the Russians pushing her down the stairs?

Russians? No. The Democrats already figured out how to stop Russian interference. Kavanaugh putting his hands on another woman pushing without her consent? That sounds more plausible... 

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9 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Everyone conveniently glossing over the fact 7 Republican governor offices were lost to the Dems when touting how well the Republican strategy is working.

Agreed unfortunately.

 

When 50% of the electorate pays no income taxes they don't care about your great income tax cut you passed last year.  

They don't own stocks so they could give a shit what the Dow Jones is.  

They don't have any money to pass to their children so they don't care if there is a federal inheritance tax or not.

 

They live day to day, paycheck to paycheck because the globalized economy transferred their places in our economies to the developed world while enriching the investor, academic and administrator class.  They see this and they are right to be pissed.

We (conservatives) have come to look with disdain on government action that improves the lot of the common man and expect them (the electorate) to be able to trace the good or improving things in their lives (particularly their economic circumstances) to broad national policies that you would have to connect the dots thru in a very tenuous sense. 

We expect a machinist in the Mid-west to see how reducing marginal tax rates on individuals making over 500k a year leads to higher investment in small business and that's why he has a job, gimme a break.  We expect a dude in his 50s established in a town with a family and connections to not be resentful as hell when his job is outsourced and to see how it really serves the greater good to more efficiently source his function overseas and that creative destruction in capitalism is fine, just depends on which end of the whip your on...

Conservatives can remain true to the principals of limited government and use the scale/ability of the federal government to broadly improve the lives of the working/middle class in this country.  Modern conservatism in any modern advanced state with an industrial or post-industrial economy should be on limited but effective and focused national governance that excels in a few areas rather than our current model of the federal government being mediocre in a lot of areas.

Use those few but well executed functions to enable and secure the largest possible middle class that is the only way a stable democracy can survive in a large and diverse country.  

I am not for an intrusive all encompassing federal government but the people want some basic reassurance that if they obey the law, support their families and are loyal to this country, that the federal government will give them a reasonable safety net.  As conservatives, we have to accept that but deliver it in a realistic, sustainable and understandable way that does not enslave the industrious to the lazy and modestly insures the honest and hardworking from the whims of fate.

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Agreed unfortunately.

 

When 50% of the electorate pays no income taxes they don't care about your great income tax cut you passed last year.  

They don't own stocks so they could give a shit what the Dow Jones is.  

They don't have any money to pass to their children so they don't care if there is a federal inheritance tax or not.

 

They live day to day, paycheck to paycheck because the globalized economy transferred their places in our economies to the developed world while enriching the investor, academic and administrator class.  They see this and they are right to be pissed.

We (conservatives) have come to look with disdain on government action that improves the lot of the common man and expect them (the electorate) to be able to trace the good or improving things in their lives (particularly their economic circumstances) to broad national policies that you would have to connect the dots thru in a very tenuous sense. 

We expect a machinist in the Mid-west to see how reducing marginal tax rates on individuals making over 500k a year leads to higher investment in small business and that's why he has a job, gimme a break.  We expect a dude in his 50s established in a town with a family and connections to not be resentful as hell when his job is outsourced and to see how it really serves the greater good to more efficiently source his function overseas and that creative destruction in capitalism is fine, just depends on which end of the whip your on...

Conservatives can remain true to the principals of limited government and use the scale/ability of the federal government to broadly improve the lives of the working/middle class in this country.  Modern conservatism in any modern advanced state with an industrial or post-industrial economy should be on limited but effective and focused national governance that excels in a few areas rather than our current model of the federal government being mediocre in a lot of areas.

Use those few but well executed functions to enable and secure the largest possible middle class that is the only way a stable democracy can survive in a large and diverse country.  

I am not for an intrusive all encompassing federal government but the people want some basic reassurance that if they obey the law, support their families and are loyal to this country, that the federal government will give them a reasonable safety net.  As conservatives, we have to accept that but deliver it in a realistic, sustainable and understandable way that does not enslave the industrious to the lazy and modestly insures the honest and hardworking from the whims of fate.

Exactly. I've said it before: the globalism experiment, and it is very much still an experiment, yielded unanticipated results in the form of dispossessed workers almost 40 years after the experiments began.

 

The positive results from the experiment (incredible profits) were immediate, and so vast we could afford to have the most progressive tax structure in the Western world. Now that we are seeing the other side of the coin, abandoning the idea that everyone, even those with low incomes should contribute to the government as a form of buy-in was a big mistake.

 

We won't fix this passively. It's probably going to take a rather extreme event, much bigger than 9/11. And the slithery Democrats who created a massive dependant underclass out of minority communities will join the slithery Republicans who convinced the middle class that globalism was a slam dunk with no downsides, disappearing into the fog as everyone else is left to figure it out.

 

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On 11/9/2018 at 9:59 AM, Lord Ratner said:

Exactly. I've said it before: the globalism experiment, and it is very much still an experiment, yielded unanticipated results in the form of dispossessed workers almost 40 years after the experiments began.

 

The positive results from the experiment (incredible profits) were immediate, and so vast we could afford to have the most progressive tax structure in the Western world. Now that we are seeing the other side of the coin, abandoning the idea that everyone, even those with low incomes should contribute to the government as a form of buy-in was a big mistake.

 

We won't fix this passively. It's probably going to take a rather extreme event, much bigger than 9/11. And the slithery Democrats who created a massive dependant underclass out of minority communities will join the slithery Republicans who convinced the middle class that globalism was a slam dunk with no downsides, disappearing into the fog as everyone else is left to figure it out.

 

I hope not but you could be right.

At this point in our story, I think it is time for a Constitutional Convention as the electoral cycle as created by the current US Constitution is not able to synchronize with or span current policy cycles in the modern United States of America and our Federal government in its representative bodies is not able to generate the levels of consensus for it to operate as designed in the current US Constitution.  Stumbling from one showdown to showdown, party line vote, Continuing Resolution at the last minute is not sustainable in the long run.

Less done at the Federal level but what is done at that level being done well leaves less to get screwed up and contentious.

Follow on:

What if the Federal Government remained essentially the tripartite system but was split with the Senate and House powers, roles and responsibilities more clearly delineated and legislation to be created and passed thru them NOT having to pass thru the other legislative body for resolution before going to the Executive for approval or veto?

Hypothetically the House could pass appropriations & legislation for Agencies A,B and C to administer National Policies on Commerce, Agriculture and etc...; the Senate could pass appropriations (new power) & legislation for Agencies X, Y and Z for National Defense, Presidential Appointments, etc...

Almost the same structure but without that huge step of coordination between separate legislative bodies that can and soon will be under different political party majorities, you make legislation to regularly and in a normal fashion MUCH easier to create, debate, refine and pass to allow a modern nation-state to function in an un-dramatic way.

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