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Want to slash American carbon?  Build nuclear power plants.  

When MSNBC announced Trump's win in Iowa, there was an audible grunt from Rachel Madow. By the sound of it, she apparently sat on her sack wrong. Happens to the best of us.

Found this entertaining Because screw that bitch and her "it's my turn" mentality. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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2 hours ago, torqued said:

Quite well. Great explanation. Any idea what kinds of machines these are or if they're the hackable type?

Interesting video. NBC, so you know it's legit.

 

Before I got out we were all hands on deck for protecting this election in case DHS called for federal help.  We did some prelim research into the voting system and figured out it was a fools errand, because each state does it their own way, and we literally couldn't prepare for 50 eventualities with our resources.  We could focus on the top 3 producers of voting machines, but they, like state gov'ts, do not want any "help" as is evidenced in the video.  So, I don't really have any idea about what types of machines they had in particular. But again we get back to the breadth of the term hackable - everything is.  There is a port somewhere on those machines, even if it's just the power cable, the CPU fans, the hard drives spinning up.  Ben Gurion University in Israel has been doing amazing research on it.

The question is: is this hacking plausible knowing that cyber is a finite resource that can cost a lot of treasure to be done at a professional level?  Here is a report from a hacker group attacking a professional malware development company that goes through a lot of what is required.  It's getting older now, but a good read.  Note, it reads like 1 person did this, but it was probably at least 3, maybe more.

I've seen the NBC video before.  The work they do at DEFCON its great, it's why we send folks there on the regular.  I think at the last one they did some of our satellites and found some of the exact same problems.

But this just dropped a few hours ago about hacking the Dominion machines, Steel is the PR dude:

"Well, it's physically impossible," Steel said of vote switching. "Look, when a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out a ballot on a touch screen. They are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping. If any electronic interference had taken place, the tally reported electronically would not match the printed ballots. and in every case where we've looked at -- in Georgia, all across the country -- the printed ballot, the gold standard in election security, has matched the electronic tally."

EDIT - Actually, you need to read the article, I think it address all the lies "soon to come evidence" that is being thrown around.  But I could be wrong, I'll wait for the evidence that's "Going to explode Georgia."

So there is a physical audit for at least the Dominion machines.  I'm 99.99999% positive there were also instructions for voters to check their paper ballot to make sure it actually reflected what they wanted.  Sidney Powell's claims are just...absurd.

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"We have evidence now of information from the systems going to three or four different foreign countries during the time of the election, those countries themselves could have watched the live votes come in and changed at the numbers," said Powell. "There’s significant evidence of foreign interference from the worst communist countries on the Earth with our election."

I give it a 0% chance that "communist countries" got together to share in the spoils of a hack on the voting infrastructure of the US.  Who... Cuba, Venezuela and China?  Did I miss anyone?  Oh wait, NK - technically communist.  I guess Vietnam as well.  These renowned "cyber powerhouses" that are so secret and quiet we'd never catch them until after the election was over?  I phrased it that way because China is very loud on the wire traditionally. 

These countries have not been after these types of systems in the past.  You can check online for what APT's come out of these countries and see what they target, but TL;DR - Banks, economic espionage, casinos, etc.  CN tries to steal for their economic benefit to industry (J-20 anyone) and everyone else is trying to make Bitcoin through various frauds/cryptolockers.  Could they have shifted their TTP's to target something else...I mean, technically anything is possible.  But I'd think it very, very unlikely.  Tooling up for these things takes awhile.  Also, they're not culturally aligned for it.  It has been amazing to see just how much the culture of each one of these nations (and our own) impact the way we all operate in cyberspace.  I don't know if that's reflected in how they fly either.  Is it?

For the rest of the twitter thread, they disabled the computer and there was security guards doing the rounds.  Looks like the report slipped in when they walked away.  Humans doing human things.

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14 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

Oh no! But what about the kraken of voter fraud evidence she was going to release?! I was reliably informed that it was going to be biblical...

And in literally the least shocking turn of events of all time, it turned out to be a bunch of hot air. Now that the grandiose communist conspiracy angle is dead, its gonna be fun to watch our little parade of baseops trumpers revise their public mental gymnastics to contrive new scenarios where trump is somehow still in this.


In the end, I think this situation is the best we could have hoped for. Trump was never going to concede so the only question was whether he'd mount a competent legal case, or a clown show.

 
If his team actually had their legal and public messaging act together it would be far more dangerous, because they might succeed in undermining confidence in our elections.  Luckily, we got the clown show and it's such a severe one it's actually turning off fence sitters and most of the moderate right.  
 

Prediction time: before the end of this train wreck, I predict trump fires Rudy too. But don't worry guys, it's just normal administration turnover. 

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1 hour ago, Pooter said:

If his team actually had their legal and public messaging act together it would be far more dangerous, because they might succeed in undermining confidence in our elections.  Luckily, we got the clown show and it's such a severe one it's actually turning off fence sitters and most of the moderate right.  

Unfortunately, through his incompetence he’s showing the next would-be strongman how to mount an effective coup. And newsflash conservative friends, that strongman could come from either party. 

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'Member when there was a 3-4 year campaign against Trump because he supposedly was working with Russians to win the election? This is like the same thing, except its the other side. Just let people complain and be skeptical

Enjoy your layover in Motel 6 with the FA 🙂

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‘If Voting Made a Difference, They Wouldn’t Let Us Do It’

I thought this quote was from Will Rogers but I searched it and it came up Mark Twain. Shows how long ago people didn't trust the voting process in the USofA.

 

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2 hours ago, Sim said:

Interesting to say the least. Also Rudy isn't wiping his own boogers while profusely sweating. 

Man, if they could only have presented competent cases in court where evidence is actually required.

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3 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

Yeah, what a bummer that real “evidence” is required and not just hearsay.

Exactly!  It's been several weeks now and this is getting ridiculous.

Could you imagine if a large percentage of the news pushed by media outlets was based on election hearsay rather than hard evidence for, say, the next 3 years?  

 

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2 hours ago, Grabby said:

Exactly!  It's been several weeks now and this is getting ridiculous.

Could you imagine if a large percentage of the news pushed by media outlets was based on election hearsay rather than hard evidence for, say, the next 3 years?  

 

Maybe the senate will investigate and publish a 966 page report detailing the significant, coordinated and widespread connections Trump's team democrats had with Russians election fraud.  Or maybe not.

Anywho...'tis the season for pardons...where my "law and order" peeps at?

What are your thoughts on the president's pardon power and should it be limited?  Should he be able to pardon those who may testify against him?  Should he be able to pardon himself?  Do you think this was the intent the founding fathers had in mind when they were writing the constitution?

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Plaintiffs seek an emergency order prohibiting Defendants from including in any certified results from the General Election the tabulation of absentee and mailing ballots which do not comply with the Election Code, including, without limitation, the tabulation of absentee and mail-in ballots Trump Campaign’s watchers were prevented from observing or based on the tabulation of invalidly cast absentee and mail-in ballots which (i) lack a secrecy envelope, or contain on that envelope any text, mark, or symbol which reveals the elector’s identity, political affiliation, or candidate preference, (ii) do not include on the outside envelope a completed declaration that is dated and signed by the elector, or (iii) are delivered inperson by third parties for non-disabled voters.

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

Sidney Powell's GA lawsuit. 

 

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4 hours ago, Sim said:

I voted with a secrecy envelope this year...dumbest shit ever.  The instructions for use were not written for aircrew-level comprehension.  Luckily I managed.

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13 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

With a dismissal from a lower courts, and not a subsequent opinion from ruling on the case, most likely not.

Yeah, reading stuff on the internet from both sides. I'm not educated enough in the workings of the law to really know. And most of the so called pundits seem to have a law degree from the university of google.

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All scientific conclusions herein are made to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty in my fields of expertise.  I received a Bachelor of Science Degree in Engineering in May of 2004, a Master of Science in Circuit Design in May of 2006, and a Doctorate in Computer Arithmetic in May of 2007, all from The University of Texas at Austin.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.12.pdf

 

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https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.0_1.pdf

Sidney Powell's Michigan lawsuit. 

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The scheme and artifice to defraud was for the purpose of illegally and fraudulently manipulating the vote count to manufacture an election of Joe Biden as President of the United States. The fraud was executed by many means,2 but the most fundamentally troubling, insidious, and egregious ploy was the systemic adaptation of old-fashioned “ballotstuffing.” It has now been amplified and rendered virtually invisible by computer software created and run by domestic and foreign actors for that very purpose. This Complaint details an especially egregious range of conduct in Wayne County and the City of Detroit, though this conduct occurred throughout the State at the direction of Michigan state election officials.

 

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9 hours ago, torqued said:

All scientific conclusions herein are made to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty in my fields of expertise.  I received a Bachelor of Science Degree in Engineering in May of 2004, a Master of Science in Circuit Design in May of 2006, and a Doctorate in Computer Arithmetic in May of 2007, all from The University of Texas at Austin.

 

 

Biggest red flag is that he only did it for Michigan. In fact if you do this for Texas you will find statistical anomolies far greater than those reported here.

Example: 

On point 18 he boldfaces that in Oakland county New Dem/New GOP were at a ratio of 2.52 in 2020; in 2016 it was 1.19. Implying that somehow much more of the new votes went to Biden outside of the expected range based on 2016 numbers. 

Now let's do this for Starr county in TX, the county that experienced the biggest "statistical anomaly" in 2020, except it was for Trump. The ratio of New GOP Votes to New Dem votes was 6000/189 or 31.7 whereas in 2016 the ratio was 2200/9100 or 0.25. He mentions that all new Biden votes in Troy outpaced new registered votes by 109%, in Starr county it was 103% of new votes to Trump. Trump gained all 6000 new votes. Starr county experienced at 56 percentage point swing towards Trump compared to 2016. This "statistical anomaly" was only apparent in South Texas. Strange? Yes, but with a benign explanation. Biden ignored south TX, Trump dropped the ball on protests in Michigan. 

Sources: 

2016 election: https://elections.sos.state.tx.us/elchist319_race62.htm

2020 election: https://results.texas-election.com/contestdetails?officeID=1001&officeName=PRESIDENT%2FVICE-PRESIDENT&officeType=FEDERAL OFFICES&from=race

Margin vote swing by county: https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/texas/

 

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Judge blocks PA certification. Likely going to supreme court. Mail-in ballots are disenfranchisement.

https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Kelly-v.-Pennsylvania-Injunction-Halting-Certification-Memorandum-Opinion-Filed-11-27-2020.pdf

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The U.S. Supreme Court has addressed various circumstances concerning disenfranchisement of votes. For instance, it has held the right to vote is foundational to our Republic and this fundamental right “can be denied by a debasement or dilution of the weight of a citizen’s vote just as effectively as by wholly prohibiting the free exercise of the franchise.” Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533, 555 (1964). Reynolds,which established the “one person, one vote” doctrine, is the seminal case on voter dilution. Under this concept, a mail-in voting process that would exceed the limits of absentee voting prescribed in Pa. Const. Article VII sec 14 could be construed as violating the “one person one vote.” In that event, the sheer magnitude of the number of mail-in ballots would not be a basis to disregard not only this provision of the Pennsylvania Constitution but also the “one person, one vote” doctrine established by Reynolds, one of the bedrock decisions of the U.S. Supreme Court.

 

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