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19 minutes ago, dream big said:

No one cares dude.  You poke the lion enough times you’re not going to like the outcome.  

Oh yeah, what’s the outcome? Plenty of people care, enough to earn 264 electoral votes.

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When MSNBC announced Trump's win in Iowa, there was an audible grunt from Rachel Madow. By the sound of it, she apparently sat on her sack wrong. Happens to the best of us.

Want to slash American carbon?  Build nuclear power plants.  

You've made 8000 posts in this thread.  At one point last week you were averaging one post every 18 seconds.  Your position is well established.  Everybody including yourself knows why you chose to pr

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16 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

There are a whole bunch of allegations of voter fraud. 

 

  1. Dec. 14th comes, no one has 270 electoral votes. Electoral college can't vote.
  2. SC with 6-4 conservative tilt sends vote to house of delegations.
  3. House of delegations has conservative majority, votes Trump in.
  4. Senate has Republican majority, they vote Pence in as VP.

Conservatives won't go down without fighting, as they should.

President Trump losing the election isn't the conservatives "going down". 

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On 11/4/2020 at 7:08 PM, Breckey said:

Georgia elected a U.S. Representative who believes a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against President  Trump. People vote for her or AOC for the same reasons people vote for any candidate. 

I had a captain who believes that. It was a wild conversation.

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On 11/4/2020 at 8:48 PM, kaputt said:

That’s exactly why they picked him. His outward appearance is of a moderate. His mental decline however can’t be denied and I highly doubt that major portions of the Democrat party didn’t see that as an opportunity. His health will either deteriorate to the point that he ends up resigning or the radical portions of the left will pull the strings and use teleprompter reading Joe as the mouthpiece. 
 

Admittedly, the R’s making gains in the house and holding the line in the Senate makes it much harder on the dems to implement their plans. 

"They" didn't pick him, the democratic voters did.

 

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders were the undisputed chosen ones of the democratic complex. So much so that analysts and commentators on both sides believed Joe Biden didn't have a chance. But when the voters got their say, they overwhelmingly rejected the socialists. The Democratic machine, to include Joe biden, completely missed that message and gave him a hardcore progressive as a running mate. It looks like he's going to be president, but it would have been no contest if he had picked another moderate running mate, like klobuchar. This all goes to show that no one in Washington has learned anything. Hopefully the Republicans are a bit more studious, because they are poised for a huge victory in 2024 if they take the lessons of trump and apply them to someone who isn't a complete lunatic.

 

And as for Texas turning blue, I talked to a lot of republicans, particularly women, who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Trump no matter what. My wife is one of them. Put a sane conservative on the ballot and you'll see the Texas moderates hesitant to vote for someone who wants to take away their guns and raise taxes.

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On 11/5/2020 at 7:19 AM, FLEA said:

I'm going to be honest. Politically I detest her. We couldn't be more opposite on so many things. I also don't think she has all of her platforms well thought out. I do not think she's stupid though, just not as expereinced. We take for granted sometimes as officers we have a broad understanding of government, and policy. But at the end of the day, none of us ran for office, and she did. 

Morally though I somewhat admire her. She was unhappy with her circumstances, ran an extremely fierce campaign as an under dog, and stood strongly in front of a wave of criticism on everything from her background to her looks from opponents that would not take her seriously. This ultimately backfired, because now you have to take her seriously. Whether you like to admit it or not, she has political pull and influence. That equates to power, and so long as she had power, she matters. Would love to see some younger Republicans generate the same energy but they largely just don't exist. 

She was also dead nuts on about Amazon. Conservatives really shit the bed on that one.

 

If anybody thinks that the world's most powerful corporation running a beauty pageant for the cities of America, so they would turn over what is usually heavily guarded tax and policy information, so that company could pick the most tax advantaged location to open their next mega center, is somehow what capitalism is supposed to look like, then conservatives don't deserve to be the defenders of capitalism. 

She's just another liberal. Good at identifying problems, bad at identifying causes and solutions.

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1 hour ago, Lord Ratner said:

And as for Texas turning blue, I talked to a lot of republicans, particularly women, who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Trump no matter what. My wife is one of them. Put a sane conservative on the ballot and you'll see the Texas moderates hesitant to vote for someone who wants to take away their guns and raise taxes.

My wife was the same.  Been a R voter most of her life until 2016.  As much as she hated Hillary she couldn't vote for "grab 'em by the pussy." 

She's tried very hard to see through, but some of policies (re: healthcare) she juts doesn't agree with, and his lack of tact pushes her over.

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My wife was the same.  Been a R voter most of her life until 2016.  As much as she hated Hillary she couldn't vote for "grab 'em by the ." 

Why do the people who don’t like the Donald cut all his quotes short or out of context? Don’t forget he has condemned racism and bigotry lots and lots. And even in the Charlottesville speech he did. Yet people still say somehow it shows he’s racist. I don’t get it. He condemns racist people, kkk, etc and gets called racist. That’s insanity.

Any time people quote the above line, they forget the part before it indicating that the girl wants it and it’s voluntary? If that’s the case and there are two consenting adults, what’s the problem? No male on here has consensual Lt touched a woman on her privates? Or is it just because how he said it and it was between two guys one of which was bragging about being with a particular type of a consenting woman?

And no male on here who isn’t a trump fan has ever talked macho with another guy about consensual sex acts? I say BS.

“And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the .”

“They let you do it”. = he is indicating that it is consentual. Right? Or am I reading/ hearing it wrong?

What does she want from healthcare?

I would agree. For most women or feminine men, the lack of being a gentlemen drives them completely away from him regardless of his accomplishments. I agree. He’s an A$$. A very productive and good for this country A$$.
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28 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

My wife was the same.  Been a R voter most of her life until 2016.  As much as she hated Hillary she couldn't vote for "grab 'em by the pussy." 

She's tried very hard to see through, but some of policies (re: healthcare) she juts doesn't agree with, and his lack of tact pushes her over.

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 My wife was the same.  We live in a battleground state; she has been very unimpressed by Trump’s rhetoric and how he has conducted himself ref the aforementioned tape/infidelity, women in general, healthcare, and COVID.  I personally know several other women I’d describe as pretty centric voters who viewed him the same way.

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2 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

"They" didn't pick him, the democratic voters did.

 

It looks like he's going to be president, but it would have been no contest if he had picked another moderate running mate, like klobuchar. This all goes to show that no one in Washington has learned anything. Hopefully the Republicans are a bit more studious, because they are poised for a huge victory in 2024 if they take the lessons of trump and apply them to someone who isn't a complete lunatic.

 

And as for Texas turning blue, I talked to a lot of republicans, particularly women, who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Trump no matter what. My wife is one of them. Put a sane conservative on the ballot and you'll see the Texas moderates hesitant to vote for someone who wants to take away their guns and raise taxes.

I was really hoping for Klobuchar as the running mate. Hell, I think a Klobuchar/Buttigieg ticket would’ve been highly preferable to what we got. I really hope the lesson both parties take from this election is that America wants them to moderate. The pessimist in me says they will just double down though. The R’s have seen how a populist cult of personality can charge their base, and the D’s will likely conclude that a more progressive candidate would’ve led to the gains in congress they’d hoped for. It’s kind of depressing. 

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48 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Why do the people who don’t like the Donald cut all his quotes short or out of context? Don’t forget he has condemned racism and bigotry lots and lots. And even in the Charlottesville speech he did. Yet people still say somehow it shows he’s racist. I don’t get it. He condemns racist people, kkk, etc and gets called racist. That’s insanity.

I never said anything about racism...wtf are you on about?

 

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“They let you do it”. = he is indicating that it is consentual. Right? Or am I reading/ hearing it wrong?

Just to be clear when you talk about the before part and "out of context" you must have just forget this part -

    "I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything....Grab them by the pussy,...You can do anything”

No...that doesn't sound consensual to me.  Especially that "Just kiss. I don't even wait." 

 

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And no male on here who isn’t a trump fan has ever talked macho with another guy about consensual sex acts? I say BS.

I would agree. For most women or feminine men, the lack of being a gentlemen drives them completely away from him regardless of his accomplishments.

We're talking about the ladies in our lives and why they're turned off by Trump's rhetoric.  I specifically said my wife waited through to see if she agreed with his policies, some she did...most she didn't.  COVID response was probably the final straw for her personally, it was for me.  Over it all was a inability to stand they way he communicates anything.

Again you denigrate the people who disagree with you: "feminine men."  Thereby inferring only masculine dudes don't have a problem with his lack of "being a gentlemen."  There are a lot of conservatives who're calling him out right now for "being an A$$" and calling our democratic institutions a fraud.

 

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What does she want from healthcare?

A plan from Republicans that doesn't cause her family to go into bankruptcy because of issues beyond their control.

 

gg, no re

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Wasn’t responding to you in general. Was pointing out how often he’s taken out of context and misquoted.

Racism. Didn’t say you did say anything about it. Re read my post without biased goggles.

Didn’t forget that part. But no one brings up about getting kissed. Plus he still says they let him. Think we will have to agree to disagree. Did you get an informed consent signature before you kissed your now wife for the first time or touched her elsewhere? Just because it doesn’t “sound consensual”to you doesn’t mean that when he talked about it being consensual that means it isn’t.

I didn’t denigrate the people who disagree with me. And I didn’t say all either. That’s just generally the types of people who don’t agree with conservative policy. Alpha females and beta males. I never said you were one of them nor did I say all of them. You could be the manliest man ever and it doesn’t mean I was talking about you. Not everything’s about you bro.

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3 hours ago, Guardian said:

Why do the people who don’t like the Donald cut all his quotes short or out of context?

Have you watched legacy media in the last 4 years? That's what they do.  

Trump - gold diggers will jump on top of you instantly. 

"moralist" - oh my god! So horrible! I will never vote of him. 

So they will vote for anti-constitutionalist (anti 1A and 2A), for socialist agenda, increased taxes, fraud (10 for the big guy), lies over lies and dementia. That is A-OK!  

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5 hours ago, Guardian said:

“They let you do it”. = he is indicating that it is consentual. Right? Or am I reading/ hearing it wrong?

Exhibit 1 on why we will never get away from hours and hours of annual SAPR training. Yikes thats a hot take.

Also who raised you that preferring to be a gentleman with couth was a sign of a feminine man?

 

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Those pesky-little glitches. . 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/another-computer-glitch-identified-corrected-california-led-republican-winning-race/

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A computer error led election officials in Oakland County to hand an upset victory Wednesday to a Democrat, only to switch the win back to an incumbent Republican a day later.

In Oakland County’s 15th County Commission District — representing Rochester and Rochester Hills — the initial count gave a 104-vote margin to the Democrat, Melanie Hartman, amounting to a razor-thin majority of 50.08%…

…“Apparently, there was a technical glitch in Rochester Hills. And so I actually ended up winning by a little over 1,100 votes,” said a chuckling Kochenderfer.

The margin was 1,127 votes, to be exact. That gave him a 51.67% share of the total (with 48.23% going to his opponent, Hartman).

 

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I’d guess the rest of the RNC is already doing discovery of their own, and will shortly stop supporting any lawsuits vocally and financially.

Lawsuits in multiple counties in Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia? Nobody’s going to pay for that, and it’ll make them look like a bunch of litigious shits for 2024.

edit: to be clear, this is only a prediction with no specific source

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13 minutes ago, Majestik Møøse said:

I’d guess the rest of the RNC is already doing discovery of their own, and will shortly stop supporting any lawsuits vocally and financially.

Lawsuits in multiple counties in Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia? Nobody’s going to pay for that, and it’ll make them look like a bunch of litigious shits for 2024.

Not hating, but I would love to read a source for that. 

Anyone checked on Guardian recently?  I'm sure s/he's already running from the Commissars.

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Congrats to Biden. 
 

trump has no one to blame but himself. They made a huge strategic error on the first debate trying to bully Biden and portray him as weak. Made trump come off as rude. Also his tone post corona virus should have softened instead he doubled down. 
 

but more importantly when will the gambling websites pay out daddy put some nice money on a Biden victory. 

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