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I always liked college football better... But yeah, you reap what you sow... I think disrespecting the national anthem is a poor way to bring everyone together. Definitely not the way I'd bring attention to a cause that mattered to me.

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An ex of mine was an account manager for a hockey team in Texas. I took her to a baseball game, and she literally ruined almost all professional sporting experiences for me. She would point to something, and say "AT&T paid for that. I wonder how much Virgin paid for this. Oh, that's a clever idea for XYZ company to do that in between innings." It was like she pulled the curtain back on professional sports, one of those "once you see it, you can't unsee it," things, much like BQZip's mom (not like Scoobs quals though... still waiting to see those).

Whenever I watch NFL now, all I can see are the advertisements and the stupid gimmicks that companies use to brand themselves in certain ways, and squeezed in between there somewhere is the actual sport that seems to have taken a back seat during the game. That's nothing profound, I mean, it's no secret why Levi's Stadium is called Levi's Stadium. But goddammit, I can't enjoy NFL games anymore.

Now college games, that's where it's at! Or maybe this new Legends Football League:

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As much as I'd like to think the national anthem disrespect is driving fans away, I suspect the real issues are the officiating and the TV commercials. 

The NFL, unlike all the other major sports, is ridiculously vulnerable to the subjectivity of the officials.  Crucial personal fouls, 60 yard pass interference plays, drive-killing holding calls, 10 minutes under the hood trying to figure out what a catch is....it's maddening.  Entire games are decided by the refs.

The TV commercials are ridiculous, and the Netflix generation is simply not going to sit through 25 minutes of Verizon, Coors and Viagra commercials every hour.  I won't watch an NFL game unless I give it a 40 minute "head start" with the DVR.

 

 

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On 10/10/2016 at 9:12 PM, LumberjackAxe said:

An ex of mine was an account manager for a hockey team in Texas. I took her to a baseball game, and she literally ruined almost all professional sporting experiences for me. She would point to something, and say "AT&T paid for that. I wonder how much Virgin paid for this. Oh, that's a clever idea for XYZ company to do that in between innings." It was like she pulled the curtain back on professional sports, one of those "once you see it, you can't unsee it," things, much like BQZip's mom (not like Scoobs quals though... still waiting to see those).

Whenever I watch NFL now, all I can see are the advertisements and the stupid gimmicks that companies use to brand themselves in certain ways, and squeezed in between there somewhere is the actual sport that seems to have taken a back seat during the game. That's nothing profound, I mean, it's no secret why Levi's Stadium is called Levi's Stadium. But goddammit, I can't enjoy NFL games anymore.

Like when the U.S. military paid the NFL millions of dollars for them to make it seem like they were voluntarily honoring the troops during their games by having them on the sidelines and whatnot?  Granted, it almost certainly has a bigger long term recruiting effect than any 30 second TV commercial ever would, but it's still sad.

On 10/11/2016 at 10:11 AM, DUNBAR said:

As much as I'd like to think the national anthem disrespect is driving fans away, I suspect the real issues are the officiating and the TV commercials. 

The NFL, unlike all the other major sports, is ridiculously vulnerable to the subjectivity of the officials.  Crucial personal fouls, 60 yard pass interference plays, drive-killing holding calls, 10 minutes under the hood trying to figure out what a catch is....it's maddening.  Entire games are decided by the refs.

The TV commercials are ridiculous, and the Netflix generation is simply not going to sit through 25 minutes of Verizon, Coors and Viagra commercials every hour.  I won't watch an NFL game unless I give it a 40 minute "head start" with the DVR.

Precisely zero people (or one, if you're going to claim that it's you) don't watch football games because of bad officiating.  People who are outraged over bad calls are necessarily heavily invested in the game itself.  If they weren't the bad calls wouldn't bother them, so some bad calls aren't going to affect viewership.  And the ratings sure as hell aren't down because of anything to do with players making fools of themselves while "disrespecting" the National Anthem.

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The games are almost unwatchable, rosters are unrecognizable season to season and Goodell winning his penis fight and putting the games most marketable player(Brady) on suspension. I'm rooting for Brady so he can be handed that Superbowl MVP award by Goodell. Besides I'm a Bear fan and haven't had anything to root for, go Pat's. I wonder why most players are not being tackled by the flowing lock's protruding from most helmets these days?

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Count me in on the crowd that used to pay attention. Just got Football overload... Thursday night football, Sunday football, Saturday night football (later in the season), Monday Night Football, NFL Network, Fantasy Football (1 pay league, 1 fun league, etc.)

 

I'll watch the big games later in the season, and definitely the playoffs, but now? eh.

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/10/27/nfl-ratings-national-anthem-protests-poll/

At least one poll says ratings are down due to public sentiment about the kneeling. 

But Im sure the American public will forget about it once Kardashian is in the news again. 

Short bus preschoolers could have formulated a more legitimate poll.  I don't set a high bar for sports page writers, but the guy who picked this up and wrote an article around it should really be forced to have his dick concussed by J.J. Watt.

The poll provided options and asked respondents to answer "yes" or "no" to them.  This type of poll is among the worst, and no survey looking to produce reliable, "scientific", results utilizes this tactic.  Unfortunately people are dumb as shit, and it's equivalent to leading a witness.

Exacerbating this is the fact that the poll did not ask respondents to indicate if THEY had curbed their viewership, and if so, what motivated THEM to do so.  It asked every participant of the survey to speculate on what they BELIEVED was causing the drop, whether they had stopped watching or not.  You would expect the results to skew towards a story that was discussed on every news and major sporting event broadcast in the month of September whether it had anything to do with it or not.

If I had to guess, Colin Kaepernick's first start this season probably saw a massive ratings boost, not a decline.  A small percentage of people who like what he's done would be more likely to tune in and hope to watch him succeed.  A large minority would tune in to hopefully watch him fail in spectacular fashion, and a massive majority wouldn't modify their behavior either way.

It's too bad also, because the way police in this country do their job (and are trained to do their job), deserves to have every player, coach, and fan in the stands on their knees in protest.  But with every news broadcast and idiotic NFL protest player suggesting the atrocious policing is all a result of widespread institutional racism, the actual problem is going to persist unchecked for decades more.   

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On 11/8/2016 at 4:38 PM, matmacwc said:

Oh dear lord. We have the 1 MSNBC watcher in the US on the board.

Never seen a second of broadcast of the channel in my entire life (excluding clips shown on other networks).  That's not hyperbole.  Not one second.  I assume you must have some familiarity with the network in order to make your statement, so I'd say that relative to me, you might as well be Rachel Maddow herself.

Your assumption about my political positions based on my statement couldn't be more off the mark.  It's born out of past personal involvement in law enforcement and my sentiment has been shared in depth in other threads (you were commenting in a few of them as well, although it was a long time ago and I wouldn't expect you to remember).  It is not a fundamentally anti-police position.  It's a pro-Constitutional rights position.  

Unfortunately the police are, by orders of magnitude, the largest violators of Constitutional rights in this country.  It's ingrained in what they do on a daily basis.  They're trained to do it from day 1 of the Academy.  Given this board is full of military members, my opinion should be the prevailing opinion within the community.  Instead, most here would rather just flash their CAC to the DHS agent at the illegal inland "border" checkpoint in order to get hurried along.  Not even willing to slightly inconvenience themselves to avoid trampling all over the document they purportedly volunteered to give their life for.

Sorry, but with respect to this issue, relative to me, you're the left-wing communist.

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4 hours ago, Kiloalpha said:

If I had to guess, you're a libertarian. Shame about ol' Gary.

Also, you said you didn't watch MSNBC... but yet you mentioned Rachel Maddow. I suppose you could have learned about her boyish physique from your regular carrier pigeon route, but methinks you've seen at least a second of their programming. Just saying.

I'll say what kiloalpha is too nice and refined to say... Remove the stick from your ass. Writing another 4 paragraphs of response to a one-liner matmacwc jokingly typed is some Simple Jack shit.

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