Toro Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Senior Air Force officer loses job over 'inappropriate' emails Sacked for emails...that must suck. Anybody at Randolph have more info? I was in Venom's squadron 10 years ago, so I'm curious as to what happened. I'll take a PM if you don't think it's appropriate to post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Spike Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I flew with Venom as a student at Vance several times in T-38s. One of the best leaders, officers, and instructors I have ever known. This sounds like another "What's wrong with the Air Force" points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panchbarnes Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 was removed from his job in late March over a 2007 email exchange with the wife of a subordinate officer An investigator was assigned to look into it,” he added. “No evidence of relationship was discovered.” This is tough... 7 years ago and an investigation was closed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Revenge is a dish best served cold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitteEinBit Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) There has to be more to it. Hard to believe someone randomly found an e-mail from 7 years ago and decided to investigate...but I've seen worse happen. On the other hand, I guess it is a new month and we needed another senior officer to fire. Wonder who it will be next month... Edit to add: He was relieved because the boss "lost confidence" in his leadership ability over something that happened 7 years ago?!? Really? I will put up my entire life savings and bet that at LEAST half of current senior officers have something in their past when they were young CGOs worth being fired over (punching the E-ticket, infidelity, continuing education contributions to hookers, etc.). I'll even double down and say that the firing commander has something in his past that went TDY and stayed TDY. Edited April 5, 2014 by BitteEinBit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanePhlyer Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Guessing that'll put a squash on his new job as wing king at CBM? Crazy that a 6.9 year old email resurfaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopyeast Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Wow, I remember him from the Vance days. Awesome dude, great instructor and always had a way to put it all in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I don't exist Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 This is weird...was the investigation started 7 years ago or did someone just dig up some old email? Isn't there some kind of statute of limitations? I can think of a couple of emails I've sent/received that could be considered inappropriate but that nobody complained about. Should I be worried that, 7 years from now, the comm squadron will find them when they trash the exchange server? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 I will put up my entire life savings and bet that at LEAST half of current senior officers have something in their past when they were young CGOs worth being fired over. I wouldn't trust a commander who didn't do something as a CGO worth being fired over. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindsight2020 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I wouldn't trust a commander who didn't do something as a CGO worth being fired over. A-fuckin'men. Remember boys, this is Shawshank: We're allll innocent here ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Saw an awesome ops SQ/CC fired at HRT and it was a damn shame. Edit: poor auto-correct Edit to add: guess there was more too it...still sucks, the timing was well after the fact, and pretty much every "bro level" dude still believes the whole incident was sketchy. IMHO doesn't speak well to the higher-level CC who could not effectively communicate to his subordinates why something was going down. Edited April 5, 2014 by nsplayr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Screw around and she owns you for the rest of your life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cell Dweller Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 ... similar...acquisitions that ... Acquisitions? I figured the guy was ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Fixed...damn autocorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osulax05 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I flew with Venom as a student at Vance several times in T-38s. One of the best leaders, officers, and instructors I have ever known. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F16Deuce Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I flew with Venom as a student at Vance several times in T-38s. One of the best leaders, officers, and instructors I have ever known. This sounds like another "What's wrong with the Air Force" points. 2. How did something from 2007 magically appear? This is bullshit. Venom is one of the dudes the USAF needs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Well, I've only had a few interactions with the CC, but I will say I failed to find his officership inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breckey Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The CV was fired, not the CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 The CV was fired, not the CC Right, but who do you think fired him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breckey Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fud Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 2. How did something from 2007 magically appear? This is bullshit. Venom is one of the dudes the USAF needs. The OG/CC at warren was the best commander I served under. I didn't know Venom but the fact that the AF needs these guys is the sole reason they seem to get fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Pretty unique to go from KC-135's to F-15E's. Someone was probably bitter over something and remembered a skeleton in the closet. Very unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breckey Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) The OG/CC at warren was the best commander I served under. I didn't know Venom but the fact that the AF needs these guys is the sole reason they seem to get fired. If you are referencing the one that was just removed then he severely went off the deep end since you were under his command. Edited April 6, 2014 by Breckey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Pretty unique to go from KC-135's to F-15E's. Someone was probably bitter over something and remembered a skeleton in the closet. Very unfortunate. Doubt that had anything to do with it, considering he transitioned about 8-10 yrs prior to the alleged emails even being sent. I just don't get how someone, a good dude and leader at that, gets canned over 7 yr old emails. Unless something illegal was uncovered and he's on his way to trial (doesn't seem to be the case here...I hope), then firing him makes zero sense. Now watch CBM end up with a douche nozzle of a wing king when they were so close to having an awesome one - Big Blue wins again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 was he from the era of banked cockpits? I know of at least one F-16 pilot who spent 3 years flying Hercs before getting his fighter cockpit (he's currently the wing kind at Columbus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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