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Just now, Hopefulflyer389 said:

I have been informed that the unsponsored route isn't an option any more by the local recruiter. Did someone else tell you differently or is the recruiter I talked to just another not knowing type?

A guy I know who got picked up very late last year to fly fighters for his reserve unit was describing the program to me. He basically said if you want to fly fighters it might not be the best route, but that out of the 2 or 3 guys he knows who have done it, each got picked up by a unit in their top 5 choices (non-fighters). I thought the unsponsored boards was a fairly new thing.

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Just got an e-mail with an interview invite from the 101ARW (Bangor, ME). Looks like there will an interview session next weekend and then another one sometime after that for people with scheduling conflicts.

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1 hour ago, tk1313 said:

A guy I know who got picked up very late last year to fly fighters for his reserve unit was describing the program to me. He basically said if you want to fly fighters it might not be the best route, but that out of the 2 or 3 guys he knows who have done it, each got picked up by a unit in their top 5 choices (non-fighters). I thought the unsponsored boards was a fairly new thing.

It's been around for a few years. They talk about ending it, and then it keeps going... the information you'll get depends on who your recruiter is. If yours is saying it's not happening anymore, call another one and ask. Each recruiter runs their little area of the country and not all have the desire (or ability) to stay up on everything that is going on in AFRC.

As for the unsponsored track itself, basically, AFRC acts as your hiring agency. They foot the bill for your FC1 and they'll go ahead and assign you OTS/TFOT dates, even though you don't have a unit inside of AFRC who has sponsored you yet. For the sake of this description, a unit doesn't "hire" you. They sponsor you. Basically they go to AFRC and say "I want this guy/gal", hence... sponsorship.

So, the gig with unsponsored is that you've got from now until the day you start UPT to find a home inside of AFRC. If you don't have one by drop night? They'll place you "at the needs of the Air Force Reserve". Which, if you run the numbers... is like 95% other-than-fighters. Again, if you want to roll the dice or simply don't care? It's an awesome program that quite honestly can't be beat. But if you're chasing an airframe or location in particular? Playing with fire. At least in my opinion.

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1 hour ago, Hopefulflyer389 said:

I have been informed that the unsponsored route isn't an option any more by the local recruiter. Did someone else tell you differently or is the recruiter I talked to just another not knowing type?

Make sure you're talking to an "Officer Accessions Recruiter"... not some SrA. Rank of the OAR should be TSgt-MSgt and their signature in e-mails should identify them as an OAR for a certain region of the US. If you are talking to one already? Then call another one in a neighboring area. Just ask point blank if the unsponsored track is still available. Or, if you get really anxious about it, call AFRC themselves. 

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1 hour ago, Disco_Nav963 said:

Coincidentally I just saw a PA story about the interesting place one guy on the unsponsored track wound up...

The reason he most likely he chose that route is because he did not find a fighter unit to sponsor him and he did not want to end up in a heavy as he was already a Nav.

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19 hours ago, Herk Driver said:

There are no more unsponsored boards (my info is a couple of weeks old and subject to change). Also, maybe already mentioned but AFRC boards are going to be every 6 weeks or so...starting soon.


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Does having a board every six weeks provide more sponsorship opportunities or simply process selected applicants faster?  

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Does having a board every six weeks provide more sponsorship opportunities or simply process selected applicants faster?  

Finding a unit to sponsor you remains the same. Unsponsored applicants, in some circumstances, seems to have generated some unintended consequences.


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Is there any chance of the 192nd FW hiring, ever? Because they're right on my doorstep... and they fly F-22's...

Should I call these people, or am I wasting my time and theirs?

Location isn't the end-all for me. I do have this conception (perhaps incorrect) that it would be a lot easier to go AD and get paid to go anywhere they tell me, whereas if I go to a specific base for ANG / Reserves, I'd have to pay my own way to get there and have to worry about getting a day job at the new location. I can totally understand doing that to fly fighters, but ANG doesn't really pay much, correct? So if I go that route, I've got to forget doing this as a career?

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9 hours ago, jonlbs said:

Also anyone heard from VT? or  go to the meet n greet thing?

 

We were told interview selections were delayed until the "end of the month" a couple weeks ago.

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Does anyone know when the deadline is for the upcoming AFRC rated board is? I know it's soon if it hasn't already passed, and I'm trying to ensure my recruiter gets everything in on time. Haven't been able to make contact with him for a bit, so I'm just getting nervous that I'm gonna miss it and end up waiting an extra six months for the next board.

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Does anyone know when the deadline is for the upcoming AFRC rated board is? I know it's soon if it hasn't already passed, and I'm trying to ensure my recruiter gets everything in on time. Haven't been able to make contact with him for a bit, so I'm just getting nervous that I'm gonna miss it and end up waiting an extra six months for the next board.

Soon AFRC will have a board every ~6 weeks or so. Not sure exactly when that starts but it has already been approved, from what I am told.


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2 hours ago, ryleypav said:

Anyone have a copy of the Aircrew Applicant Questionnaire for the Selfridge KC-135s?

I sent emails to two different contacts over there and haven't yet gotten a response. If you get it let me know and I'll do the same.

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My info is a year or so old... But it's correct. I called every fighter unit in the Reserves and I talked to some awesome pilots while I was looking at the Reserves and none of those units were hiring. The B-52 unit in Barksdale was an exception apparently, as my recruiter said they were hiring at some point. Most units told me straight-up that they don't hire off the street, only prior-service. If you want to tread that Reserve path, I'd recommend finding the Officer Accessions Recruiter (OAR) near the units you're talking about. In my case, I wasn't near any and my recruiter didn't have any contact info for them. I called the OAR covering Utah for instance... and he was able to give me contact info for the Fighter unit there. Same for TX, etc.
The only fighter unit that has hired off the street was the A-10s at Whiteman/Moody. They posted an opening last year or so on guardreservejobs.com.
Don't fall into the unsponsored nonsense. If you just want to fly heavies in the Reserves and don't care where? It's a hell of a program. Those of us chasing pointy jets? Nope. 


Hill does hire off the street. If you would like an email of someone who was an off the street hire pm me.

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Does anyone know when the deadline is for the upcoming AFRC rated board is? I know it's soon if it hasn't already passed, and I'm trying to ensure my recruiter gets everything in on time. Haven't been able to make contact with him for a bit, so I'm just getting nervous that I'm gonna miss it and end up waiting an extra six months for the next board.

 

Just dug up the info today. For the upcoming AFRC board, packages were due 28 April. There is a new AFRC UPT process guidebook that was published on 1 March 17.

 

I will try to post it here later. It's on a sharepoint and I don't think the link will work..

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Herk Driver said:

Just dug up the info today. For the upcoming AFRC board, packages were due 28 April. There is a new AFRC UPT process guidebook that was published on 1 March 17.

Thanks. My recruiter sent my package in on May 1, so hopefully I don't miss this round. He didn't seem to think there was a problem.

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On 5/1/2017 at 1:53 PM, Edw26 said:

I sent emails to two different contacts over there and haven't yet gotten a response. If you get it let me know and I'll do the same.

Just got an email today from them. Did you?

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4 hours ago, ryleypav said:

Just got an email today from them. Did you?

Yep. Was going to post the same. Thanks for the follow-up.

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Anyone have any insight on the minimum PCSM score and/or minimum amount of flight time it takes for a fighter unit to consider you (assuming the rest of your package is high quality)? I'll have 21 hours next week and a PCSM of 80, but that's all I'll be able to afford for a really long time. Obviously I'm going to apply for the boards that interest me no matter what, but do guys without PPLs (at a minimum) and 90+ PCSM scores really stand much of a chance?

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Anyone have any insight on the minimum PCSM score and/or minimum amount of flight time it takes for a fighter unit to consider you (assuming the rest of your package is high quality)? I'll have 21 hours next week and a PCSM of 80, but that's all I'll be able to afford for a really long time. Obviously I'm going to apply for the boards that interest me no matter what, but do guys without PPLs (at a minimum) and 90+ PCSM scores really stand much of a chance?


The official line is that it's a whole person concept. However, I noticed a huge jump in interviews when I crested 90 on my PCSM. I also tried to get time in different aircraft. Have you retaken the TBAS?


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