noumenon Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Co-pilots coming to legacy herks are being re-routed to RPA/AFSOC and C-130H will become integrated with total force, any more info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefSlapahoe Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'm pretty sure that only applies to dudes/dudettes scheduled to PCS to Little Rock. Has that expanded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 There are copilot & nav students that are here, and some on the way to LRF, that are being looked at to transfer to other airframes. Some (and I mean a VERY select few) may stay at LRF. AFPC has "shock absorbers" for those students: AFSOC, MC-12s, white jets, & UAVs. Don't expect much more info than that for a while, AFPC is a little busy at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hueypilot Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'm pretty sure that only applies to dudes/dudettes scheduled to PCS to Little Rock. Has that expanded? The squadrons at LRF were the only remaining non-TFI H-model units other than Yokota...so it's safe to say unless you're going there, you're gonna be in a TFI squadron or you were ARC to begin with. As a disclaimer, things change every week with the future Herk roadmap. But as it stands today expect that the AD USAF will plan to divest itself of the C-130H except for the TFI units. At some point even Yokota will become a J-model squadron. There are plans on the books for a H-model TFI squadron at LRF but few details yet...it's not even officially announced but that's the direction things are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Dogs! Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Is this going to affect the ANG studs enroute to fly the C-130H back at their units or is it AD only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockheedFix Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Is this going to affect the ANG studs enroute to fly the C-130H back at their units or is it AD only? AD only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Word out in the deployed Herk world is that all these changes are supposed to happen by the end of the fiscal year. Any confirmation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream big Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Forgive my ignorance...what does TFI mean for 130s? Edited February 15, 2013 by dream big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockheedFix Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 See the title of this thread.Basiclally some combination of AD, AFRC and ANG working/flying together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Heard through the grapevine that there was a CC call at Little Rock this week where it was announced that the 61st and 53rd were going to be standing down. Truth? Details? Edited: Little Rock has too many squadrons. Edited February 15, 2013 by Champ Kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftsman Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 So is this like the first step of a TAMI program for the Heavy crowd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockheedFix Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Heard through the grapevine that there was a CC call at Little Rock this week where it was announced that the 61st and 50th were going to be standing down. Truth? Details? My understanding is that the 50th and 53d are standing down. The 61st should be getting their first J soon. One of the legacy squadrons will be an associate unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 My understanding is that the 50th and 53d are standing down. Fixed. Meant 53rd, typed 61st. Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i.o.w.a Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 53rd - done 50th - 12 crew, TFI type unit flying guard planes 61st - J 41st - J That's what I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) 53rd - done 50th - 12 AD crews, TFI type unit flying C-130Hs 61st - J 41st - J That's what I heard. FIFY, but otherwise correct. Edited February 16, 2013 by Spinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSE Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 53rd as in the hurricane hunters? And done as in shut down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockheedFix Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 53d AS as in the red-headed stepchild squadron of the AF's red-headed stepchild MWS. It used to be an E-model FTU squadron then moved over to AMC, then was threatened with losing formation and airdrop quals, now is just going to disappear.Spinner, any word on if the 50th TFI unit will fly H3s, or are they sending those elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 53rd as in the hurricane hunters? And done as in shut down? I think you are thinking about the 53rd Weather Recon. Sq. at Keesler which is a Reserve Sq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty-six & Two Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) Spinner, any word on if the 50th TFI unit will fly H3s, or are they sending those elsewhere? H2s that the Reserves will be bringing with them. H3s going to Dobbins? Everyone is waiting for the official word on the iron moves that the C-130 working group has been hashing out since the NDAA was signed. Thought it would be released today, but it wasn't. Edited February 16, 2013 by Fifty-six & Two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 LockheedFix, those piece of crap H3s (I can say that, I flew them for 4 years) are supposed to go to Savannah ANG. No telling where Savannah's 80-model H2s will go. The AD is not doing Savannah any favors by giving them those planes, they're about wore out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hueypilot Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 53AS will likely inactivate. 50AS will probably be an associate to the LRF AFRC unit (probably gonna become the 913AG). 53WRS (WC-130Js at Keesler...Hurricane Hunters) will remain at BIX while their sister squadron the 815AS will close. The 815th's slick Js will probably go to Pope to the 440AW, and I've heard the future 913AG will get Pope's old H2s. Note my liberal use of the word "probably". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSE Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 What happpens to the 815AS UPT guys? I was picked up in the December board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledemployee Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) What happpens to the 815AS UPT guys? I was picked up in the December board... Talk to your unit if you want the straight up skinny. Or we can make shit up for you just like the AF is making this shit up as we go along. Break Break This LR "transition" aka shit storm is a product of reaction and forcing hands versus well thought out planning and implementation. Its a great peek into the AD-ANG-AFRC infighting/passiveness that often occurs but we don't often see. In the end, ANG will get what they wanted (in the Herk world) and not lose any planes (at least according to AF Lies) and gets a misison to some of those C-27 bases. Ft Smith positions will likely move to LR so that is a win for the state, but a loss for the A-10 world (I mean really, A-10s and Razorbacks go hand in hand). The big loss is 53d deactivating and the 50th going to half strength. After absorbing Dyess peeps and with other TFI units/Yokota at high manning levels, there isn't anywhere else to go for 1.5 sqs worth other than outside the Herk. Poor timing if you were a new Herkster in UPT, just graduated, or even already in the schoolhouse. Any older Herkster looking to come back will likely have to wait in line or look elsewhere. In the meantime, there is still a wartime mission and as was demonstrated with Iraq, Herk will be there in force to cleaned it out (with a little help from Strat). Get ready to absorb some shock as AF closes down 1.5 squadrons in no time. Out Edited February 16, 2013 by disgruntledemployee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berry Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 After absorbing Dyess peeps and with other TFI units/Yokota at high manning levels, there isn't anywhere else to go for 1.5 sqs worth other than outside the Herk. How about Tucson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duece123 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Any rumors about the 62nd or the ANG schoolhouse squadrons? I know it is all a crap shoot at this point, but are thy slated to keep those missions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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