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RAND_RR1530.pdf

it would appear that Rand disagrees with the high health care costs, effects on readiness and the size of that community. It also suggests that we could learn a thing or two from foreign militaries of U.K., Israel, Canada and Australia.

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4 hours ago, 1111 said:

RAND_RR1530.pdf

it would appear that Rand disagrees with the high health care costs, effects on readiness and the size of that community. It also suggests that we could learn a thing or two from foreign militaries of U.K., Israel, Canada and Australia.

Looks like there are still some bugs in the site update. The .pdf appears as an unclickable link in chrome, and only as an image in Safari.

http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1500/RR1530/RAND_RR1530.pdf

According to the "report", there is absolutely zero negative impact in the military providing: psychotherapy to confirm that the person has a "gender dysphoria", then hormone therapy, then gender reassignment, then hair removal... all while granting the member leave from their unit and paying for it. It's apparently inconsequential for DoD to change it's deployment restrictions and policies to accommodate "telemedicine" and increased laboratory access for transgender individuals at deployed locations.

Notice how they hide the costs as percentages of largest budget numbers available and don't specify average or expected costs per individual for medical bills, unit productivity lost, or accommodating the administrative workload. Sign on the dotted line, swear an oath, declare yourself transgender, spend your commitment completing the psychological and medical procedures, and leave the military debt free. Easy money.

This is not a balanced subjective report, it's an activist piece written by 6 authors who no military experience or expertise. Just because it says "RAND", it's not always credible.

Where would you draw the line with elective surgeries? If sex change operations are to be accommodated and paid for, why not allow all women who self-identify as very large breasted women to undergo operations to correct what nature has gotten wrong at taxpayer expense? What about the guys and gals who self-identify as having a 32 inch waist during the fitness test? 

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1 hour ago, gearpig said:

Where would you draw the line with elective surgeries? If sex change operations are to be accommodated and paid for, why not allow all women who self-identify as very large breasted women to undergo operations to correct what nature has gotten wrong at taxpayer expense?

I get what you're saying, but you picked a bad example. Reduction mammoplasty is covered by Tricare.

https://tricare.mil/CoveredServices/IsItCovered/ReductionMammoplasty.aspx

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1 hour ago, gearpig said:

Looks like there are still some bugs in the site update. The .pdf appears as an unclickable link in chrome, and only as an image in Safari.

http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1500/RR1530/RAND_RR1530.pdf

According to the "report", there is absolutely zero negative impact in the military providing: psychotherapy to confirm that the person has a "gender dysphoria", then hormone therapy, then gender reassignment, then hair removal... all while granting the member leave from their unit and paying for it. It's apparently inconsequential for DoD to change it's deployment restrictions and policies to accommodate "telemedicine" and increased laboratory access for transgender individuals at deployed locations.

Notice how they hide the costs as percentages of largest budget numbers available and don't specify average or expected costs per individual for medical bills, unit productivity lost, or accommodating the administrative workload. Sign on the dotted line, swear an oath, declare yourself transgender, spend your commitment completing the psychological and medical procedures, and leave the military debt free. Easy money.

This is not a balanced subjective report, it's an activist piece written by 6 authors who no military experience or expertise. Just because it says "RAND", it's not always credible.

Where would you draw the line with elective surgeries? If sex change operations are to be accommodated and paid for, why not allow all women who self-identify as very large breasted women to undergo operations to correct what nature has gotten wrong at taxpayer expense? What about the guys and gals who self-identify as having a 32 inch waist during the fitness test? 

Exactly. What a ridiculous report. Apparently according to the authors, because there won't be many of them, the costs, when compared to the total force, will be small, so therefore inconsequential. Except they don't really mention how it will impact the units where they're assigned but barely work due to all the shenanigans required to appease their confusion about reality. 

I also love the recommendation that the military should create transgender SMEs and "Gender Advisors" for commanders. Gender Advisors. Because apparently Gender is so complex and variable that we need specially trained advisors. GMAFB. What a joke and complete waste of time. 

 

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2 minutes ago, nunya said:

You got it backwards.

Humm, yes, it does appear that way, my bad.

As I'm now browsing the more esoteric things Tricare covers, an "external vacuum appliance" to treat erectile dysfunction is covered.  Gentlemen, line up for your artificial BJs, courtesy of Uncle Sugar!

https://tricare.mil/CoveredServices/IsItCovered/ErectileDysfunctionTreatment

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1 hour ago, RTB said:

I also love the recommendation that the military should create transgender SMEs and "Gender Advisors" for commanders. Gender Advisors. Because apparently Gender is so complex and variable that we need specially trained advisors. GMAFB. What a joke and complete waste of time.

Those officers could also advise the commanders on avoiding any type of offense to political correctness - could call them "political officers" for short

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11 hours ago, 1111 said:

RAND_RR1530.pdf

it would appear that Rand disagrees with the high health care costs, effects on readiness and the size of that community. It also suggests that we could learn a thing or two from foreign militaries of U.K., Israel, Canada and Australia.

Because we should be like foreign militaries......never.  

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14 hours ago, 1111 said:

 It also suggests that we could learn a thing or two from foreign militaries of U.K., Israel, Canada and Australia.

I'm not saying there's absolutely nothing we can't learn from those countries but we are the most powerful fighting force on the planet. They way we do things works, last I checked other countries aren't sending advisors to train our military. Also lets be honest about the military capability of our FVEY friends independent of the U.S., this is not a slight at their ability but they rely heavily on us. Also Israel is its own cat, they are a country surrounded by a dozen other countries that would wipe them off the planet first chance they get. They don't have the luxury of choice, the need all the bodies they can get.

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17 hours ago, RTB said:

Exactly. What a ridiculous report. Apparently according to the authors, because there won't be many of them, the costs, when compared to the total force, will be small, so therefore inconsequential. Except they don't really mention how it will impact the units where they're assigned but barely work due to all the shenanigans required to appease their confusion about reality. 

I also love the recommendation that the military should create transgender SMEs and "Gender Advisors" for commanders. Gender Advisors. Because apparently Gender is so complex and variable that we need specially trained advisors. GMAFB. What a joke and complete waste of time. 

 

The military should take that suggestion and tell RAND and Obama to shove it up their a$$es.  Instead, let's use that time and resources to make more weapons officers.  That way when we actually go to war we won't get our a$$es kicked since we have become such a PC society.  Good lord, I can't believe we are arguing about the feasibility of accomodating dudes who want to be girls or vice versa in the military at the expense of the tax payer and another Airmen that must deploy in their place. 

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If the President truly trusts his military council, he should let the Pentagon handle the policy announcements and put the keyboard down.

If he trusts them, he's a fool

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50 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Different spanks for different ranks. You’re surprised? However since he’s drawing retirement pay, he’s still subject to the code and can be recalled back to AD if another Convening Authority wants to try him. The USMC just recently did that to a retired Gunny over kiddie porn.

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10 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

I'd like to know the details not included in that story, as there is always more to it.  That being said, this is just embarrassing.  How long will it go until the military sees major changes in it's judicial culture?

 

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15 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

So no assault actually happened? Sounds like a sexual harassment case to me. Do people on the outside go to jail for sexual harassment? Or do they just get fired?

Edit: missed the paragraph on the office encounter. Yeah, that would be an assault. 

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Finished the article

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