TarHeelPilot Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It would be quite a bit more bearable. Look at the big brain on Brett Brad. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PropWash Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It's Brett. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001793/?ref_=tt_cl_t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It's Brett. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001793/?ref_=tt_cl_t7 Well look at the big brain on Brad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 It's both, you smart motherfuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2xAGM114 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) I think if they put active duty MCE squadrons at DM, Herbie, and San Antonio the retention problem would fix itself even with the shift work grind. Plenty of comments like this heard at Creech when I left in '09. Nothing has changed, and no one is willing to fork out the money to move MCE anywhere. When Admiral Mullen came to visit and the question was asked, we were told it was an OPSEC issue. Right... Edited September 16, 2014 by 2xAGM114 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2xAGM114 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Do people really hate living in Vegas that much? Vegas wasn't the issue. The issue for most then was being told "3 years and you're back to your MDS/MWS", then "3 years plus the FTU time", then "we really have no idea when you can leave due to the SURGE Ver 4", then "we're going to let TAMI and UPT Direct guys leave first because they've never really flown", to finally "You can't ever leave unless it's to another RPA base. We're really sorry. Here's an aerial achievement medal. And PCS orders to Holloman." Edited September 16, 2014 by 2xAGM114 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonut Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 "You can't ever leave unless it's to another RPA base. We're really sorry. Here's an aerial achievement medal. And PCS orders to Holloman." That is ing awful if that's true. This kind of crap is why AFA cadets are starting to look away from pilot slots. That and they hung a damn pred from Mitch's ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineapigfury Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 That is fucking awful if that's true. This kind of crap is why AFA cadets are starting to look away from pilot slots. That and they hung a damn pred from Mitch's ceiling. I know some of our new Lt's (from all commissioning sources) chose this because the ADSC is 6 years and not 10. The jury is out on the 18X experiment until the first batch hits the end of their ADSCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvlax40 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Vegas wasn't the issue. The issue for most then was being told "3 years and you're back to your MDS/MWS", then "3 years plus the FTU time", then "we really have no idea when you can leave due to the SURGE Ver 4", then "we're going to let TAMI and UPT Direct guys leave first because they've never really flown", to finally "You can't ever leave unless it's to another RPA base. We're really sorry. Here's an aerial achievement medal. And PCS orders to Holloman." with the shortage in IPs right now i have no idea why they would do that and not utilized a guy who knows how to fly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrodgsxr Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 with the shortage in IPs right now i have no idea why they would do that and not utilized a guy who knows how to fly? shortage of IPs where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim richalds Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 shortage of IPs where? Delta, and American, get your apps in Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 shortage of IPs where? Must be one at HO since we're dropping orders for non-IP 1Lts to PCS to HO as FTU IPs at exactly 2 years on station from CH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvlax40 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 i had heard 38 instructors were short a couple years ago. may have changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/28/emotional-toll-taxes-military-drone-operators-too/?page=1 "Emotional toll taxes military drone operators too" “It can be as impactful for these guys as someone in a foxhole,” said Air Force spokesman Tom Kimball. I get there are a lot of psycological impacts from this but I don't see connection between that and a guy in a fox hole who could be killed at any minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy29 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/28/emotional-toll-taxes-military-drone-operators-too/?page=1 "Emotional toll taxes military drone operators too" “It can be as impactful for these guys as someone in a foxhole,” said Air Force spokesman Tom Kimball. I get there are a lot of psycological impacts from this but I don't see connection between that and a guy in a fox hole who could be killed at any minute. It always pissed me off reading this crap. I spent three and a half years doing this mission. Never met anyone that had issues. Just makes us look like a bunch of senstive pussies. Unless your ass is getting shot at, STFU. And if you can't handle drones, GTFO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Hungus Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 And if you can't handle drones, GTFO. That's exactly what everyone is doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy29 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 That's exactly what everyone is doing. LOL. Welllll, I was talking about the people who can't handle drones because of the emotional impact of the mission. As far as people who hated the drone mission getting out, good for them. It was a rotten deal for a bunch of folks, glad to see a lot of them flying manned a/c now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2xAGM114 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 It always pissed me off reading this crap. I spent three and a half years doing this mission. Never met anyone that had issues. Just makes us look like a bunch of senstive pussies. Unless your ass is getting shot at, STFU. And if you can't handle drones, GTFO. Same. The "Psycological Wounds" are more likely due to not getting a Viper on assignment night or not getting a DP at their previous base. Yep, shift work sucks. Clovis sucks. Got it. Press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmarsh Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Same. The "Psycological Wounds" are more likely due to not getting a Viper on assignment night or not getting a DP at their previous base. Yep, shift work sucks. Clovis sucks. Got it. Press. ^ This. This thread is the dumping ground for gripes against RPA assignments and I get that, it's valid. Every community has it's things, the viper guys bitched when they were in Clovis and breathed a sigh of relief when the BRAC gave it to AFSOC. Guys at Creech live In North Vegas and don't like the commute, guys from the Midwest don't like Hickam because they get island fever, guys that got C-17's don't like Charleston because they wanted an Eagle.... Either the juice is worth the squeeze, or it isn't. Edited October 1, 2014 by Rmarsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summe32c Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Any scenario across the board, give it time, someone will bitch and complain. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonut Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 The "Psycological Wounds" are more likely due to not getting a Viper on assignment night As it turns out, crushing someone's dreams in front of their friends and family and half the base tends to leave a mark. Who knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 As it turns out, crushing someone's dreams in front of their friends and family and half the base tends to leave a mark. Who knew. Life's tough, wear a helmet. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmarsh Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Bitching about flying your fighter or heavy in a shit location is nothing like getting stuck in a shipping container on shift work in a shit location. I've seen both up close and the hate/discontent is not comparable. So have I, I'm not just saying "suck it up", with no perspective on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 As it turns out, crushing someone's dreams in front of their friends and family and half the base tends to leave a mark. Who knew. YGBFSM. Put on your man-pants; this is the military. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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