HU&W Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 How many years until SkyNet becomes self aware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 How many years until SkyNet becomes self aware? It already is as of 29 August 1997; right now it's just waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardGuy Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 AF Crimes - http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2013/01/air-force-rpa-promotion-rate-010713w/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 “There may be good and sufficient reasons for that, but the concern is you can’t treat these RPA operators as second-class citizens and expect that to be the core of the Air Force of the future” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 AF Crimes - http://www.airforcet...n-rate-010713w/ I couldn't imagine getting racked/stacked and "taking one for the team" based on AAD/christmas party reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 That's because all the viper pilots are now flying predators. Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HU&W Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy pilgrim Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Not affording a US Citizen due process in accordance with the constitution is a bigger issue (and risk) than "mitigating risk" of a terror attack. Sometimes one must sacrifice a little security in the name of freedom and liberty. Ideals and ideas like this are what used to make this country great. (Gun control and warrant-less electronic eavesdropping on US citizens are just two more examples off the top of my head of the same erosion of this nation's ideals.) The easy road is usually the cowardly one. It is of my opinion that this entitled baby-boomer generation is absolutely destroying our country (fiscally wise, liberty wise, security wise). Fortunately, I have met some incredible people while serving and it gives me hope that some of you guys out there will someday help fix all this and get us back to where we used to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJu Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Looks like the Pentagon is taking a second look at the special medal for drone operators: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/12/official-hagel-orders-review-new-cyber-medal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magellan Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Looks like the Pentagon is taking a second look at the special medal for drone operators: http://www.foxnews.c...ew-cyber-medal/ This is interesting...considering one of the justifications for the medal was to be an alternative to the Air Medal. That said I don't think they considered the backlash that would come from veterans groups viewing it as an attack on Bronze Stars and Purple Hearts. I could be wrong on this one, but I think Hagel will stand behind Panetta's decision on this medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerstud Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'm going to have to disagree with you that Hagel will agree with Panetta on this. From a political perspective, it is pretty hard to not listen to a bunch of veterans who are missing limbs (the military order of the purple heart) who say you are slapping them in the face. It is even harder when you can't say what this medal would awarded for because most of the drone things that it would be awarded for (DFC level work from the wording) are classified. The merits of this medal are something different, but at the SECDEF level, it is a completely different discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'm going to have to disagree with you that Hagel will agree with Panetta on this. From a political perspective, it is pretty hard to not listen to a bunch of veterans who are missing limbs (the military order of the purple heart) who say you are slapping them in the face. You seem to think that the politicians and appointees actually care what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJu Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 You seem to think that the politicians and appointees actually care what you think. Normally true, but call me an optimist in thinking that Hagel might have a different perspective on this given his own military experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceballs Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 This is interesting...considering one of the justifications for the medal was to be an alternative to the Air Medal. That said I don't think they considered the backlash that would come from veterans groups viewing it as an attack on Bronze Stars and Purple Hearts. As a person with drones on my list for my next assignment, I don't think drone operators deserve the Air Medal. Drones definitely have their place and make a huge difference, but the drone operator is never in any danger. They never see true combat. I think the new medal has its place for drone and space operators, but I don't think it should be nearly as prestigious as they made it. It should be a much lower medal being nowhere near the purple heart or the Air Medal. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magellan Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 As a person with drones on my list for my next assignment. Copy, you are a subject matter expert perfectly entitled to tell Panetta that he was dead wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 As a person with drones on my list for my next assignment... Step 1: Stop calling them drones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepers21 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Step 1: Stop calling them drones. ^this http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/dont-call-em-drones-wide-world-unmanned-flying-machines-1C8857699 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkbum Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) Step 1: Stop calling them drones. 2 Edited March 15, 2013 by herkbum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Step 1: Stop calling them drones. This. Senator, these are not the droids you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polcat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 This. Senator, these are not the droids drones you are looking for. FIFY. Sounds better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HU&W Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Step 1: Stop calling them drones. Dude, you just got droned! If we allow one man to charge Americans as enemy combatants and indefinitely detain or drone them, then what exactly is it our brave young men and women are fighting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I have no beef with the RPA operators earning a medal. I don't think it should be of greater "value" than an Air Medal or a Bronze Star, but they should be recognized for the contributions they're making to the war effort. It's definitely more than many other platforms out there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineapigfury Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I have no beef with the RPA operators earning a medal. I don't think it should be of greater "value" than an Air Medal or a Bronze Star, but they should be recognized for the contributions they're making to the war effort. It's definitely more than many other platforms out there. We rack up plenty of Aerial Achievement medals. Most of the guys aren't happy with where this medal ranks, because it brings down even more derision upon us. They probably should have put this thing between the Purple Heart and DMSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) We rack up plenty of Aerial Achievement medals. Most of the guys aren't happy with where this medal ranks, because it brings down even more derision upon us. They probably should have put this thing between the Purple Heart and DMSM. I hope that was sarcasm, shouldn't rank above the Air Medal IMO. And what is wrong with the Aerial Achievement Medal? Quoting from wiki: "The decoration is intended to recognize the contributions of aircrew members who would, otherwise, not be qualified for the award of the Air Medal." Seems about right, I personally think we have too many medals, but if they do want one just rank it right below the AM. Edited March 17, 2013 by Scaredfuzz21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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