Cap-10 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 http://www.seymourjohnson.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123298198 Cheers, Cap-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striper_WSO Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Serious question: Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybert Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 because they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grind Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 AMERICA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap-10 Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 Serious question: Why? "This F-15E Strike package and Turkey Shoot honored the excellence and sacrifices of our Wing's past while 'flexing' 4th FW airpower today, sharpening our warfighting spirit and skills as we look toward the future," said Col. Patrick Doherty, 4th FW commander. Toward the end of WWII the greatest challenge in Europe for the 8th Air Force was destroying a Luftwaffe that refused to take to the air. One of the 4th FG's most notorious missions during WWII was also its final major mission. The group's Airmen were tasked to take out the Luftwaffe or German Air Force. In two airfield attacks the group's aviators destroyed 105 enemy aircraft April 16, 1945. During World War II competition began between the 4th and 56th Fighter Groups to see what unit could destroy the most enemy aircraft. The 4th FG finished the war with 1,016 aircraft destroyed and the 56th FG's final tally was 1,006. While supporting the war effort the 4th FG destroyed more enemy aircraft than any group or wing in Air Force history. Today's plan was to destroy at least 1,016 DPI's/red air with 69+1 F-15E's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frog Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Sweet history and the exercise sounds pretty cool. Not so sure about the "elephant walk" though...do you guys still practice marching, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 "In related news on Seymour Johnson AFB, the members of the 4FW CGOC conducted their own "Elephant Walk and Turkey Shoot" as all five of them marched on over to the Base Bowling Alley to share comraderie, Turkey Club sandwiches, and an informative leadership lecture on MyDP. "It was a real team-building experience for everyone involved in the CGOC Turkey Shoot" quoted 1 Lt James "Jim" McShoe, the council VP. "And we only had to shut down 4 support offices to make it happen! The flyers were all flying anyway, so they didn't need to fill a voucher or anything." 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Serious question: Why? Earth Day 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frog Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Earth Day Wow. Respect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosuper Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) Getting ready for hurricane evacuation season. I hope they have enough for next days go's. Edited April 17, 2012 by Prosuper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striper_WSO Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 "This F-15E Strike package and Turkey Shoot honored the excellence and sacrifices of our Wing's past while 'flexing' 4th FW airpower today, sharpening our warfighting spirit and skills as we look toward the future," said Col. Patrick Doherty, 4th FW commander. Toward the end of WWII the greatest challenge in Europe for the 8th Air Force was destroying a Luftwaffe that refused to take to the air. One of the 4th FG's most notorious missions during WWII was also its final major mission. The group's Airmen were tasked to take out the Luftwaffe or German Air Force. In two airfield attacks the group's aviators destroyed 105 enemy aircraft April 16, 1945. During World War II competition began between the 4th and 56th Fighter Groups to see what unit could destroy the most enemy aircraft. The 4th FG finished the war with 1,016 aircraft destroyed and the 56th FG's final tally was 1,006. While supporting the war effort the 4th FG destroyed more enemy aircraft than any group or wing in Air Force history. Today's plan was to destroy at least 1,016 DPI's/red air with 69+1 F-15E's. Yeah, I read the article. Sure, it is cool to flex our muscles and do something awesome, but it just seemed like a big PR stunt by the Wing CC. I don't know the guy, I'm simply judging by the press release and a video I saw. Am I just jaded and have seen too many Wing CCs coming up with good ideas to put on their OPR w/ "largest," "best ever," and "first?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscle2002 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) Getting ready for hurricane evacuation season. I hope they have enough for next days go's. ######ing hurricanes. Yeah, I read the article. Sure, it is cool to flex our muscles and do something awesome, but it just seemed like a big PR stunt by the Wing CC. I don't know the guy, I'm simply judging by the press release and a video I saw. Am I just jaded and have seen too many Wing CCs coming up with good ideas to put on their OPR w/ "largest," "best ever," and "first?" You're right to be suspicious. Edited April 17, 2012 by Muscle2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineapigfury Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Yeah, I read the article. Sure, it is cool to flex our muscles and do something awesome, but it just seemed like a big PR stunt by the Wing CC. I don't know the guy, I'm simply judging by the press release and a video I saw. Am I just jaded and have seen too many Wing CCs coming up with good ideas to put on their OPR w/ "largest," "best ever," and "first?" Hopefully it was something cooler, like the Ops Group CC betting the Mx Group CC he couldn't give him 69 jets at once, and then shit got real. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingBull Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) Serious question: Why? Why the fuck not? It's the Air Force flying some badass planes doing badass things. Fucking be happy about it. I am. Incase anyone bitches about cost, despite the entertaining details ("nearly 70 aircraft") there was some serious training accomplished. Why not in such a bitchin fashion? Basically I'm saying if you object to this, fuck off. Edited April 17, 2012 by FlyingBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzle Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 The Chinese put together a counter-force to oppose The Great 69-ship... {linked at 5:13} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterKing Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Pretty f'ing cool. Replace "SJ" with "Korea" and 1000 targets around the "state" with "North Korea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techsan Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I loved the chicks in berets @ about 1:50. Pretty hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Were there any sonic booms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap-10 Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 Yeah, I read the article. Sure, it is cool to flex our muscles and do something awesome, but it just seemed like a big PR stunt by the Wing CC. I don't know the guy, I'm simply judging by the press release and a video I saw. Am I just jaded and have seen too many Wing CCs coming up with good ideas to put on their OPR w/ "largest," "best ever," and "first?" Yes and No... You are right about the WG/CC piece (he's not liked by most in the OG and I am in no way defending him)....everyone scoffed at the idea (including me), especially the picture and figured it was going to be a clown show (there were a at least one round assessed by the WG/CC in jet #1 to a Flight Lead from one of the Ops squaron for screwing up the taxi plan). However, when the WG/CC give you lemons, you expect the Wing Patch to make some sh!t hot lemonade, and as I would expect from any Patch worth their salt, they delivered! From the Ops side, we flew two 30 minute vul's of oppossd SAT with blue and red suppplied by both Ops and FTU squadrons (plus GCI) and accomplished Mission Commander updrades....there was a 2-ship from each squadron that flew CAS with STS JTAC's from Pope (also accomplishing their qual's before going down range)...a 2-ship from each squadron flew un-oppossed SAT via low level (VR-87) with off-range attacks....finally a 4 ship from each squadron with 6x BDU-50's flew BSA at the range but had to plan attacks that weren't in the aircrew aid....they flew 15/25/35 degree attacks. Wing Weapons cames (STS) up with point criteria with awards for best Pilot/WSO in each mission set: SAT had TOT, number of targets destroyed, points lost for getting shot down by Red,etc...Low level guys had TOT and judged against their release parameters compared to their plan...same for the BSA guys....CAS players had points for quickest time from 9-line to impact, etc. Every aircraft regardless of primary mission had an SDB target attack during RTB...had to designate and transfer all DPI's off the HRM...points awarded for accuracy of designations as well as speed....fastest time from first designation to hitting the pickle button....I will tell you it takes a LONG time to designate/transfer 20 DPI's! In the end, whatever the WG/CC's true intentions were, the Ops Group made the best out of the situation and got some awesome training and upgrades amongst all 4 squadrons! Cheers, Cap-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striper_WSO Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Nice, sounds like some awesome training. I was just hoping that getting all 69 aircraft off the ground wasn't the high point of the day. I've seen OREs get lots of aircraft off the ground...with no weapons onboard and little training accomplished once the aircraft launched. It doesn't look like that was the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 ...In the end, whatever the WG/CC's true intentions were, the Ops Group made the best out of the situation and got some awesome training and upgrades amongst all 4 squadrons! My mind was just blown thinking about what it must be like to be at a wing that actually can produce that number of sorties...please have your MX call our MX. Sounds like an awesome day of flying and killing...well done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Noonin Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 My mind was just blown thinking about what it must be like to be at a wing that actually can produce that number of sorties True dat. This was an enormous feat for MX. They must have worked their tails off to make that happen. Good on 'em. They should be basking in the glory of that mission. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 They should be allowed to wear flight suits for a day, we all know how badly everyone wants to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCH Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 ....CAS players had points for quickest time from 9-line to impact, etc. You're doing it wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-15E WSO Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 ... it just seemed like a big PR stunt by the Wing CC. I don't know the guy. Count yourself lucky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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