Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:49 AM
Can someone explain to the idiot in the room how the Air Force can close down any Guard units? I thought that iron on the ramp at any ANGB was owned by the State in question.
The iron actually belongs to the Fed's. The people belong to the state. So, for example, when Willow Grove was getting shut down, the Governor of PA said "No" that it couldn't be shut down b/c he owned the people. The Air Force said Okay, but we own the planes. So, now the 111th is open with an AFFOR support mission (something like that), but it has no airplanes.
Same thing happened to me in the guard about 13 years ago. We were over in Inicirlik at NORTHERN WATCH, and the JFACC (or equivalent) wanted to keep some more airplanes there (135's) to beef up ops. So, as the new unit rotated in, they tried to keep us from leaving. My guard unit said no, that we weren't staying. The JFACC said that he owned the airplanes and personnel and we were staying. Our leadership said the airplanes could stay, but the personnel would be rotating back one way or another, as the personnel were state guard folks (and our leadership was serious about this -- we were there for 15 day rotations -- same as our AT requirement). In the end, the Turks told us to get out -- apparently they wanted no more than 6 US tankers at a time there for ONW anyway (b/c we refused to refuel them when they were going to bomb the Kurds).
In any case, the Air Force can do a lot of things to make the guard hurt (i.e. take away equipment, funding, etc), but it is the states choice to keep the unit in place. Of course, as most of our states are hurting financially, I don't see how they can argue w/ Big Blue right now.