Swizzle Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 You know they have the NGA FLIP data for iPad Phaero app on CDs which are (or can be) sent to units every FLIP cycle right? Then the trick is sharing/finding the CD...damn OSA guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozac Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Not totally new---AMC FCIF released this past summer. Check your FCBs. Approval to Fly Jepp Terminal Instrument Procedures Without TERPS Review(11-08-17) HQ USAF/A3O granted AMC/A3 a waiver to the AFI 11-202V3 requirement to conduct TERPS reviews of Jeppesen instrument procedures constructed from United States Government aeronautical data in August 2011. This FCIF provides clarity and rescinds and replaces FCIF 11-08-17. The use of Jeppesen procedures without a TERPS review is authorized when within the National Airspace System (NAS), at a specially-accredited location, or at a non-specially-accredited location having the exact same DOD published procedure available. For specially-accredited and non-specially-accredited procedures when also published by the DoD, pilots will conduct a comparison review of the two procedures and use the DoD in any case where significant differences are noted. For non-specially-accredited procedures, if the exact same DoD published procedure is not available, the pilot will obtain full TERPS/FTIP review of the Jeppesen procedure prior to use. The most current USAF specially-accredited list will be available within AMC ePubs in the ALL GLOBAL /FLIP folder. Pilots flying Jeppesen procedures must have completed Jeppesen training via the Instrument Refresher Course or from an approved ATS contract course and must check Jeppesen NOTAMS prior to the use of a procedure. Jeppesen NOTAMS can be found at: http://www.jeppesen....erts/alerts.jsp Of course we didn't see this at the schoolhouse. Wouldn't it be nice if we knew what our students were doing operationally when they get out in the fleet? Just for clarification, is AMC saying that I can fly any jepps procedure in a special accredited nation without a TERPS review? I.e., I'm tasked to go to Le Bourget -- just grab the jepp plates and go -- no review required? This would have saved a lot of heartburn/bribes to DAOs during my time in USAFE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 You know they have the NGA FLIP data for iPad Phaero app on CDs which are (or can be) sent to units every FLIP cycle right? Then the trick is sharing/finding the CD...damn OSA guys.... You can also download the updates from the NGA site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzle Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 You can also download the updates from the NGA site The internet is too slow in Germany...and transferring the files to a hard drive w/ all the network rules and special clearances makes is worth using the CD here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagasticks Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 this.. https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=156&pID=87414 mine has epubs, and a bunch of canned flight plans, works awesome, about kindle sized with a WAAS gps receiver to boot. NACO plates and Jepp chartview. Nexrad in North america.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) Looks awesome...and it better be considering... Suggested Retail Price: $ 2749.00 USD For that price it'd better either make me a sandwich or blow me, maybe both. Edited March 21, 2012 by nsplayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addict Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Some other players in getting FLIP to AMC: http://www.aeronavdata.com/Special%20Accredited%20Nation%20Support.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagasticks Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Looks awesome...and it better be considering... For that price it'd better either make me a sandwich or blow me, maybe both. thats retail, it can be had for much cheaper. especially in bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 thats retail, it can be had for much cheaper. especially in bulk. Yeah, because the AF has a noted record of obtaining the best product for on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzle Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I can guarantee the AF will royally ###### this up...like pay triple. You called it with the price AMC is paying for iPad 2's. Oh BTW - there are draft AFIs covering iPad usage in the works....we'll see how this works out. The Beta version 3 is being released soon, will have better program control options (like dimming, swipe b/t IAPs, etc). Slowly but surely....My C-130 iPad holder, Version 2.0, will be available in a month-ish. Prices, pictures, etc to follow... It'll be compatible with all C-130E/H/J approach bracket nubs already in the cockpit. All you'd need is the holder; It'll support iPad/iPad 2/iPad 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Allegedly, our OG got the funds, and purchased iPads (the third-gen that everyone is calling the iPad 3) for every crewmember in the OG. Expected arrival is in the next few weeks. No details yet about the configuration, restrictions (if any), update method(s), etc. The source of the rumor is pretty high up on the food chain.... but I'll believe it when I sign the hand receipt. 29Apr edit: if the "i pad 3" in the first line shows up on your screen as an eBay link, I didn't do that.... Edited April 29, 2012 by JarheadBoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 You called it with the price AMC is paying for iPad 2's. Oh BTW - there are draft AFIs covering iPad usage in the works....we'll see how this works out. The Beta version 3 is being released soon, will have better program control options (like dimming, swipe b/t IAPs, etc). Slowly but surely.... My C-130 iPad holder, Version 2.0, will be available in a month-ish. Prices, pictures, etc to follow... It'll be compatible with all C-130E/H/J approach bracket nubs already in the cockpit. All you'd need is the holder; It'll support iPad/iPad 2/iPad 3. Can you pass on to the NGA people that if there were any way to reduce the download from ~3.0gb per cycle to something manageable like the Jepp app (~150mb a cycle)? Suggestion: the updates only replace the changed charts as opposed to every chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Can you pass on to the NGA people that if there were any way to reduce the download from ~3.0gb per cycle to something manageable like the Jepp app (~150mb a cycle)? Suggestion: the updates only replace the changed charts as opposed to every chart. This is the government...we don't do anything efficiently when there's no incentive to do so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Doesn't the NGA already mail a DVD with all the FLIP on soft copy along with the Pubs themselves? It'd be a pretty easy change to just stop mailing the paper pubs and send a couple DVDs to use on a stand alone computer that you'd use to update the iPads. As far as the green photo gel to make em NVG usable: using the black/white conversion setting along with the filter made it tolerable as long as you didn't look directly at the screen, but a no-shit NVIS filter is the way to go in my opinion if you're doing anything tactical. Bonus: modern NVIS filters don't totally dork up the screen colors, just tint them slightly and there's thin stick on film available nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzle Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I have a CF-29 laptop screen NVG filter that I'm customizing to fit my iPad. Right now it's too long and wide (ha!) and needs to be reshaped to match iPad screen. It does allow touch screen capability still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 FYSA: https://militarycac.com/PDFs/PKardForIOSPressRelease.pdf ARLINGTON, Texas, April 18, 2012 – Thursby Software Systems, Inc., launches PKard ® Reader, the world’s first secure Apple iPad, iPhone and iPod touch web browser solution, a combination of a $149.99 plug-in card reader using industry standard CAC, PIV, PIV-I or CIV smart cards and a free app leveraging two-factor authentication. Very iiiiiiinterestink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) It'd be a pretty easy change to just stop mailing the paper pubs and send a couple DVDs to use on a stand alone computer that you'd use to update the iPads. According to an NGA rep last week, AMC DODAACs will completely stop receiving paper products Dec of this year. They will 100% be using DVDs / the internets to update FLIP. Who knows when this will happen for the other commands, but suspect it'll be a while for the non-heavy communities. And personally I hope to God they come up with another solution besides the ipad for fighters. Edited April 29, 2012 by brabus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techsan Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 According to an NGA rep last week, AMC DODAACs will completely stop receiving paper products Dec of this year. They will 100% be using DVDs / the internets to update FLIP. Who knows when this will happen for the other commands, but suspect it'll be a while for the non-heavy communities. And personally I hope to God they come up with another solution besides the ipad for fighters. Flighter guys fly instrument approaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Flighter guys fly instrument approaches? Vectors to final, brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 According to an NGA rep last week, AMC DODAACs will completely stop receiving paper products Dec of this year. They will 100% be using DVDs / the internets to update FLIP. Who knows when this will happen for the other commands, but suspect it'll be a while for the non-heavy communities. And personally I hope to God they come up with another solution besides the ipad for fighters. Hopefully it is Through DVDs instead of the Internet, since the NGA has a shitty download cap of 500k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Looks like AMC got the new iPad for the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 My C-130 iPad holder, Version 2.0, will be available in a month-ish. Prices, pictures, etc to follow... It'll be compatible with all C-130E/H/J approach bracket nubs already in the cockpit. All you'd need is the holder; It'll support iPad/iPad 2/iPad 3. Any updates? Which holder did you mean (the spring clip)? Not to down play the initiative, but I wonder how the industrial suction-cup to a cockpit window works? Has anyone tried it? Anyone successful in getting their Sqd to pay for Foreflight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Anyone successful in getting their Sqd to pay for Foreflight? Hard to do when AMC treats this thing like an overpriced e-Reader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Any updates? Which holder did you mean (the spring clip)? Not to down play the initiative, but I wonder how the industrial suction-cup to a cockpit window works? Has anyone tried it? Anyone successful in getting their Sqd to pay for Foreflight? The squads don't really have much control yet. Also, we can't go online with Wifi until a secure network is set up (next year some point IIRC), even then I don't know how useful something like ForeFlight will be because I don't know if we'll be allowed to access the interwebs. From my cursory glance at the ForeFlight webpage, it seems Phaero has a lot of the same functionality besides any real time WX updates or NOTAMS. Even so, most of us have something like that on our cell phones for real time updating. For the time being, we have GoodReader with all of our pubs and Phaero which has airfield info, charts, and flip. Pretty convenient for mission planning and it will be nice when we don't have to carry 100 lbs of flip out to the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Phaero is ok. It isn't great. It could be really great though, if they set up the files as vector graphics instead of image PDFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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