pcola Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) Wow, that pretty much summed it up. Don't confuse conservatives with party line GOP, there is large and diverging difference. I thought her tone was spot on and well controlled. The facts, lies, and hypocrisy make me sick to my stomach and embarrassed that this country reelected this person to a second term (let alone the first term). What's even more embarrassing are the people he surrounds himself with. Her points and projections are accurate; dumb and dumber could lead us (from behind of course) straight into WW3 if we're not careful. And to think, this time last year, almost to the day, I was raging with hostilities over the lies and bullshit emanating from these same people while our brothers died a grizzly death while being left out in the cold. Class act Mr President, class act. While I agreed with most of what Ms Pirro had to say, I think she's also guilty of resorting to sensationalism and fear mongering. WW3? Really? Russia isn't in nearly as strong of a position as they like to claim, and Iran has no interest in provoking us to directly attack them. After all, most of our meddling in the region is working out well for them. For a decent analysis of Russia's stake in this, check out Stratfor's latest geopolitical weekly: http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/syria-america-and-putins-bluff?utm_source=freelist-f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20130910&utm_term=Gweekly&utm_content=readmore&elq=3ba8c95317684b20b615181176bc0e0e Edited September 10, 2013 by pcola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFRESH Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 For a decent analysis of Russia's stake in this, check out Stratfor's latest geopolitical weekly: http://www.stratfor....615181176bc0e0e Touche. I was just about to post a link to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/09/10/making-sense-of-syria/ Ouch is about all that can be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/09/10/making-sense-of-syria/ Ouch is about all that can be said. Just about nailed it wrt the entire speech tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vprdrvr69 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Russia isn't in nearly as strong of a position as they like to claim, and Iran has no interest in provoking us to directly attack them. I'm afraid to say that we're not as strong as we like to claim either...not to mention that the hardware and humans are tired as hell after 12 years of non-stop multi-theater war. Russia and Iran can get away with poking us in the eye some because we're too damn tired to give a shit or really do anything effective about it. While our military might is still the most superior, these naïve views that a compilation of our enemies couldn't put a world of hurtin' on us is dangerous. As for Iranian involvement, they don't have much to lose. At least if they jump into a fight that has already been started, they can plan out and get in a few sucker punches. The way I see it with our politicians (left and right), Iran is fukked either way. Our GOP debate on foreign policy turned into an idiotic argument over who could destroy Iran the fastest with the biggest bombs! The bobbleheads on the left have proven the single sided nature of our foreign policy (Obama has been Bush on steroids); Iran should be worried that we are going to destroy them, I don't see anyone in the US arguing that we shouldn't. With this Syria debacle front and center, we can see Mr. Noble Peace Prize winners' stance on military action. All boils down to foreign policy; if we hadn't screwed their country over royally back around 1950, likely everything would look totally different. We made the bed. Avoid the foreign entanglements dammit. While I agreed with most of what Ms Pirro had to say, I think she's also guilty of resorting to sensationalism and fear mongering. WW3? Really? It's not sensationalism, its patriotic emotionalism and concern for her country. I feel it too. Fear mongering? Why, because she is terrified of this president taking us to war in another middle east shit hole for no justifiable valid reason, with no clear objectives, and ABSOLUTELY nothing to gain (but everything to lose)? As for WW3, do we get to determine who jumps into the fight? Our intervention and entanglements have infuriated many countries around the world; if we can't win a 12 year war against the cave dweller on his land then what chances do we have of achieving an undefined goal against a collaborated group of our sworn enemies on their soil? We don't get to determine how this escalates nor do we get to say who gets to jump in. If I said regional war would that be better? Maybe it'll just be another success story like Iraq or Vietnam? Much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcola Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Ok dude. Yes, Obama is making us all look bad. He is also making our country less secure. Is this a surprise to anyone? However, WW3 will not be started over Syria. At least not now. There will be no shots fired between Russia/US or Iran/US. It's all posturing in an effort to manipulate perceptions with each party having an end goal of strengthening their influence in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgotPassword Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Putin wrote an Op-Ed http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewskis Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Putin wrote an Op-Ed http://www.nytimes.c...anted=all&_r=1 We found a way to make a despot look reasonable. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clouseau Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 And then there's crap like this - http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/11/pro-syrian-opposition-analyst-fired-for-lying-on-resume/ Vetting might have been in order here and it's amazing at times who these news organizations use for analysts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Putin wrote an Op-Ed http://www.nytimes.c...anted=all&_r=1 Putin has given one other Op-Ed to the NYTimes. There may be one thing that keeps Putin up at night and somewhere in these two Op-Eds is a common theme. http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/14/opinion/why-we-must-act.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeA10 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Got to start raising funds for WW3...and maybe 4 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dz-sdO6pwVHQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Putin has given one other Op-Ed to the NYTimes. There may be one thing that keeps Putin up at night and somewhere in these two Op-Eds is a common theme. http://www.nytimes.c...e-must-act.html I am sure this is one issue that keeps him up at night... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/chechen-militant-doku-umarov-targets-winter-olympics-in-sochi-8686107.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I am sure this is one issue that keeps him up at night... http://www.independe...hi-8686107.html +1, Putin sure has a nice little homestead in Sochi. http://www.chinapost.com.tw/news/detail.asp?id=150672 http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-palace-black-sea-2011-2?op=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Twist and turns in Syria continue, the fog is thick. Before this is all over we may end up having to bomb the rebels to ensure the security of the CW stockpiles. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/09/14/securing-syrias-weapons-may-require-us-troops.html?comp=7000023317828&rank=1 http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/14/politics/us-syria/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneStar Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324807704579082924138453120 Yep...as expected. Also isn't Isis the company from archer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotADude Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Yuuupp!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFRESH Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 LLLAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNAAAAAAA!!!!!! Danger zone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeA10 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24823846 Saudi Arabia saying they are ready and could buy nukes from Pakistan to counter an Iranian threat. With such a successful leading from behind policy in the Middle East, I do not understand why they would be worried. Edited November 7, 2013 by TreeA10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Honestly this has been the case since Pakistan got the bomb. The Saudis likely paid for some of the development and the world always kind of assumed that if Shia Iran got the bomb that Sunnis (i.e. Saudi and Pakistan) would stick together and respond in kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Turkish F-16 downs Syrian jet (type?).http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26706417 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Bigsby Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Read it was a MiG-23 that was downed. Curious that a media crew was there to report and show the explosion live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestik Møøse Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 That sure is a funny lookin Mig-23. Got that extra engine and tailcone mod done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Spike Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Read it was a MiG-23 that was downed. Curious that a media crew was there to report and show the explosion live. Report to your nearest squadron crapper for remedial VID training. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Somewhere on F-16.net.... A thousand Flanker fanboys cried out and then were suddenly silenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoleIt Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If that picture is accurate...when did Syria get Su-27s? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Force Doesn't mention any Flankers in their inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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